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INnoVation: The Road to BlizzCon - Rank 1 - Page 2

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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
October 25 2017 13:55 GMT
#21
Olli is so defensive about the title that doesn;t even matter
great article man
Faker is the GOAT!
LuLuneth
Profile Blog Joined July 2017
30 Posts
October 25 2017 14:14 GMT
#22
Can't wait to see Inno crash and burn xd
beepbeeeeeeep
Profile Joined February 2017
145 Posts
October 25 2017 14:14 GMT
#23
75% win rate vs Z.....insane
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-25 14:28:35
October 25 2017 14:15 GMT
#24
Loved the article, the writing was much better than I expected.

Bit confused about the title, I would have thought something like "The Empty Throne" would have been appropriate. I get that "The Road to Blizzcon" fits too, but it fits for arguably everyone else too (which was why everyone else had another title, I assume).

Blizzcon and GOAT, the stakes (and the hype) have never been higher.
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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-25 14:27:53
October 25 2017 14:24 GMT
#25
On October 25 2017 22:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Asking a question about the title is now shitting on the article?

Only when people who never contributed anything in their life do it.
why even
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-25 14:29:56
October 25 2017 14:28 GMT
#26
Just thought of it, but the subtitle of "tôi kratistôi" ("To the Strongest") would've been cool. The words of Alexander the Great on his deathbed, when asked about his heir.
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EEk1TwEEk
Profile Joined June 2017
Russian Federation143 Posts
October 25 2017 14:35 GMT
#27
"Road to Blizzcon", really?

I would title it "The machine on the rise"
This man suffers from a bad heart, but I have plenty of medicine.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
October 25 2017 14:49 GMT
#28
It was the best read among the 16th, stop bitching about the title all of ya :p

But Olli it was stronger than you, you HAD to put two vod of two DEFEAT of INno, but since the writing is very good (and also the narrative seems quite well fitted) you are forgiven, amen.
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
ToToRo87
Profile Joined June 2011
Greece8 Posts
October 25 2017 15:06 GMT
#29
Great job lads, thanks a bunch to everybody that commited their time and effort into this PL.

Btw Olli,

On October 25 2017 22:15 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:

When INnoVation finally steps onto the BlizzCon stage, he will play for a different title than anyone else at the tournament. After years of self-improvement he has every reason to demand being called the greatest player in StarCraft II history. If he wins BlizzCon, the only tournament he has not conquered, none can deny it.


I'll hold you to that.
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
October 25 2017 15:19 GMT
#30
Odd title, i disagree that Soulkey found Innovation's achilles heel, that was just the biggest choke in the history of SC2, any GM zerg would have beat Inno there, he simply forgot how to play the game.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10141 Posts
October 25 2017 15:21 GMT
#31
On October 25 2017 23:24 D-light wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2017 22:42 Charoisaur wrote:
Asking a question about the title is now shitting on the article?

Only when people who never contributed anything in their life do it.

Thankfully with have inspector Olli on the case to make sure that people who share their opinions haven't done anything ever. It must be an arduous task.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden590 Posts
October 25 2017 15:25 GMT
#32
The title and the text have a direct correlation. I like how this was an article about the player more than a narrative (though there still was a clear narrative there).
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Vendethiel
Profile Joined February 2017
213 Posts
October 25 2017 15:36 GMT
#33
Bomber is a "Code A stalwart"? :o he had won a MLG and qualified in code A over MvP
Maru <3
DSh1
Profile Joined April 2017
292 Posts
October 25 2017 15:39 GMT
#34
I dunno about this "Innovation became better because of magic". Wasn't it more like that he decided to practice? (= Change of attitude). At least he said that at the beginning of LotV he didn't care as much and played more LoL.
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
October 25 2017 15:44 GMT
#35
On October 26 2017 00:39 DSh1 wrote:
I dunno about this "Innovation became better because of magic". Wasn't it more like that he decided to practice? (= Change of attitude). At least he said that at the beginning of LotV he didn't care as much and played more LoL.



yes he said that he slacked during 2016 and got a "slap" when he saw the player competiting for Blizzcon (while he was invited for showmatch shit) so it awoke him !
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
October 25 2017 15:57 GMT
#36
(Z)Life was robbed

I Protoss winner, could it be?
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
687 Posts
October 25 2017 15:59 GMT
#37
Disappointed it wasn't "(T)The king breathes no more, (T)God bless his memory"
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1835 Posts
October 25 2017 16:07 GMT
#38
Eh, I still think you can't compare him to Mvp.

Article was nice, but has a lot of fancy words, leaves a bit of a bloated feeling...but I might be wrong, English is not my native language.

Out of curiosity, what was meant by the statement ."...when you take into account the Balkanization of the international scene"...is international scene fractured and at war with each other? Is the international scene dead like the hopes and dreams of us living in Balkans?
curufinwe_wins
Profile Joined August 2017
68 Posts
October 25 2017 16:08 GMT
#39
Who had a better year than Innovation? Stats.

Overall a better year in SSL. (1st and 4th vs 1 and 5th
Overall a better year in GSL (1st, top 4, top 8, vs 1st, top 8, top 16)

Similar resumes in the other offline tournaments (Inno's win in GSL v World and Gyeonggi being counteracted by Stat's second in Gyeonggi, in the IEM Worlds, and similar consistency everywhere else.)
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
October 25 2017 16:11 GMT
#40
On October 26 2017 01:07 Odoakar wrote:
Eh, I still think you can't compare him to Mvp.

Article was nice, but has a lot of fancy words, leaves a bit of a bloated feeling...but I might be wrong, English is not my native language.

Out of curiosity, what was meant by the statement ."...when you take into account the Balkanization of the international scene"...is international scene fractured and at war with each other? Is the international scene dead like the hopes and dreams of us living in Balkans?



it's more like that Koreans can't compet in international like it was in 2010 to 2015, so less trophies to win.
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
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