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On October 18 2017 03:30 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2017 03:25 Olli wrote:On October 18 2017 03:24 Fango wrote:On October 18 2017 02:52 Boggyb wrote:On October 18 2017 02:44 pvsnp wrote:
Lmao at all this controversy. Maybe Gumiho is better than Neeb, maybe not. There's a reasonable argument to be made either way, and I expected Neeb to outrank at least one Korean in any case. Of all the Koreans, Gumiho's 2017 achievements are by far the least impressive. A single amazing run and nothing else does not a legend make. The fanboy rage is amusing, but immaterial.
Next spot could be Neeb, or TY, or soO. A single amazing run basically describes TY's 2017. Not only that, but TY's was 7 months ago compared to GuMiho's being approximately 4. In terms of current form, you can argue TY over GuMiho, but it isn't a super credible argument. You realise that "one amazing run" is more accurate to describe Gumiho's year right? Over the entirety of 2017, Gumiho has 2 ro8 finishes and a win. TY has 3 ro8 finshes, a ro4, a final, and a win 2 wins, WESG too. Oh yeah, I forgot about TY winning that bo7 showmatch against Maru. People never seem to talk about it on here for some reason
They talk about the $$$. It was a well-paid showmatch.
At this point, I think it would be fairly straightforward to finalize the Terran hierarchy for 2017. Inno is unquestionably first. TY clearly takes second. After that though, it gets murkier. Maru, then Gumiho, then ByuN, then aLive, then Ryung, would be my ranking. But I can see how people could rank them differently.
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On October 17 2017 23:38 Powerfoe wrote:
Ranking a foreigner above a GSL winner is just disrespectful, I don't care who it is.
i mean, neeb also won a gsl like touranment, probably a slightly easier one, but he didnt took as many tries as gumiho.
i totally agree with this placement. wouldn't be surprised to see soO next.
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On October 18 2017 03:37 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2017 23:38 Powerfoe wrote:
Ranking a foreigner above a GSL winner is just disrespectful, I don't care who it is. i mean, neeb also won a gsl like touranment, probably a slightly easier one, but he didnt took as many tries as gumiho. i totally agree with this placement. wouldn't be surprised to see soO next.
KeSPA Cup is nothing like GSL, just ask soO.
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On October 18 2017 01:13 Boggyb wrote:
I can accept Neeb ahead of GuMiho, but what in the hell has soO done to deserve being ranked ahead of him? GuMiho won the 1st Master's Coliseum since winning GSL season 2 and that's more impressive than anything soO has done since those finals.
Soo wrote an article saying he will practice more for BlizzCon and have GSL Season 1+2 form.
Also: Personally I tend to think TY a tad below Gumiho though since WESG was so far back then. But overall I find this power rank so far quite okay.
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On October 18 2017 03:30 Fango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2017 03:25 Olli wrote:On October 18 2017 03:24 Fango wrote:On October 18 2017 02:52 Boggyb wrote:On October 18 2017 02:44 pvsnp wrote:
Lmao at all this controversy. Maybe Gumiho is better than Neeb, maybe not. There's a reasonable argument to be made either way, and I expected Neeb to outrank at least one Korean in any case. Of all the Koreans, Gumiho's 2017 achievements are by far the least impressive. A single amazing run and nothing else does not a legend make. The fanboy rage is amusing, but immaterial.
Next spot could be Neeb, or TY, or soO. A single amazing run basically describes TY's 2017. Not only that, but TY's was 7 months ago compared to GuMiho's being approximately 4. In terms of current form, you can argue TY over GuMiho, but it isn't a super credible argument. You realise that "one amazing run" is more accurate to describe Gumiho's year right? Over the entirety of 2017, Gumiho has 2 ro8 finishes and a win. TY has 3 ro8 finshes, a ro4, a final, and a win 2 wins, WESG too. Oh yeah, I forgot about TY winning that bo7 showmatch against Maru. People never seem to talk about it on here for some reason
he also beat Neeb who is a better player than Gumiho 
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On October 18 2017 03:43 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2017 03:30 Fango wrote:On October 18 2017 03:25 Olli wrote:On October 18 2017 03:24 Fango wrote:On October 18 2017 02:52 Boggyb wrote:On October 18 2017 02:44 pvsnp wrote:
Lmao at all this controversy. Maybe Gumiho is better than Neeb, maybe not. There's a reasonable argument to be made either way, and I expected Neeb to outrank at least one Korean in any case. Of all the Koreans, Gumiho's 2017 achievements are by far the least impressive. A single amazing run and nothing else does not a legend make. The fanboy rage is amusing, but immaterial.
Next spot could be Neeb, or TY, or soO. A single amazing run basically describes TY's 2017. Not only that, but TY's was 7 months ago compared to GuMiho's being approximately 4. In terms of current form, you can argue TY over GuMiho, but it isn't a super credible argument. You realise that "one amazing run" is more accurate to describe Gumiho's year right? Over the entirety of 2017, Gumiho has 2 ro8 finishes and a win. TY has 3 ro8 finshes, a ro4, a final, and a win 2 wins, WESG too. Oh yeah, I forgot about TY winning that bo7 showmatch against Maru. People never seem to talk about it on here for some reason he also beat Neeb who is a better player than Gumiho
bringing us all back to the fact that the Unofficial World Champion is the only true way to measure Starcraft skill
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He might be not the strongest terran player, but his game is most fun to watch! Love gumiho's mech games!
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On October 18 2017 03:37 KalWarkov wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2017 23:38 Powerfoe wrote:
Ranking a foreigner above a GSL winner is just disrespectful, I don't care who it is. i mean, neeb also won a gsl like touranment, probably a slightly easier one, but he didnt took as many tries as gumiho. i totally agree with this placement. wouldn't be surprised to see soO next.
Firstly, that was a year ago. The amount that a single victory can indicate current form decreases over time. Results from before the big patch last year hold no value.
And secondly, Neeb did not win a GSL-like tournament. He did indeed take korean PvP by storm with his superior expirience of disruptor-stalker control, and he did indeed win a korean tournament with it. And while that is an incredible achievment, it's not on the same level as winning GSL. In fact it's not even close.
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Gumi just beat down neeb when they meet I really dont agree with this ranking.
But what a great read ! Especially the first paragraph Zealousy. Gratz
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We were so close to having Ryung take Gumiho's place.
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TL rankings have always been wrong anyway...
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On October 18 2017 04:04 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2017 03:43 Charoisaur wrote:On October 18 2017 03:30 Fango wrote:On October 18 2017 03:25 Olli wrote:On October 18 2017 03:24 Fango wrote:On October 18 2017 02:52 Boggyb wrote:On October 18 2017 02:44 pvsnp wrote:
Lmao at all this controversy. Maybe Gumiho is better than Neeb, maybe not. There's a reasonable argument to be made either way, and I expected Neeb to outrank at least one Korean in any case. Of all the Koreans, Gumiho's 2017 achievements are by far the least impressive. A single amazing run and nothing else does not a legend make. The fanboy rage is amusing, but immaterial.
Next spot could be Neeb, or TY, or soO. A single amazing run basically describes TY's 2017. Not only that, but TY's was 7 months ago compared to GuMiho's being approximately 4. In terms of current form, you can argue TY over GuMiho, but it isn't a super credible argument. You realise that "one amazing run" is more accurate to describe Gumiho's year right? Over the entirety of 2017, Gumiho has 2 ro8 finishes and a win. TY has 3 ro8 finshes, a ro4, a final, and a win 2 wins, WESG too. Oh yeah, I forgot about TY winning that bo7 showmatch against Maru. People never seem to talk about it on here for some reason he also beat Neeb who is a better player than Gumiho bringing us all back to the fact that the Unofficial World Champion is the only true way to measure Starcraft skill
Mvp was the GOAT but Inno beat him H2H so he is GOAT but Taeja beat him H2H so thefore Taeja confirmed GOAT.
It is known.
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On October 18 2017 05:57 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2017 04:04 Heartland wrote:On October 18 2017 03:43 Charoisaur wrote:On October 18 2017 03:30 Fango wrote:On October 18 2017 03:25 Olli wrote:On October 18 2017 03:24 Fango wrote:On October 18 2017 02:52 Boggyb wrote:On October 18 2017 02:44 pvsnp wrote:
Lmao at all this controversy. Maybe Gumiho is better than Neeb, maybe not. There's a reasonable argument to be made either way, and I expected Neeb to outrank at least one Korean in any case. Of all the Koreans, Gumiho's 2017 achievements are by far the least impressive. A single amazing run and nothing else does not a legend make. The fanboy rage is amusing, but immaterial.
Next spot could be Neeb, or TY, or soO. A single amazing run basically describes TY's 2017. Not only that, but TY's was 7 months ago compared to GuMiho's being approximately 4. In terms of current form, you can argue TY over GuMiho, but it isn't a super credible argument. You realise that "one amazing run" is more accurate to describe Gumiho's year right? Over the entirety of 2017, Gumiho has 2 ro8 finishes and a win. TY has 3 ro8 finshes, a ro4, a final, and a win 2 wins, WESG too. Oh yeah, I forgot about TY winning that bo7 showmatch against Maru. People never seem to talk about it on here for some reason he also beat Neeb who is a better player than Gumiho bringing us all back to the fact that the Unofficial World Champion is the only true way to measure Starcraft skill Mvp was the GOAT but Inno beat him H2H so he is GOAT but Taeja beat him H2H so thefore Taeja confirmed GOAT. It is known.
Classic pvsnp Liquid bias
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Don’t agree with that. See Ej’s posts for a lot of good reasons. Neeb is getting overhyped imo.
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On October 18 2017 05:31 Divain wrote:
TL rankings have always been wrong anyway...
I can't hear you over the sound of Naniwa > INnoVation
On October 18 2017 04:35 Toudeleski wrote:
Just more fanfiction
In the interest of quality for next year, I'm interested in what you would have liked to read about. What focus?
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On October 18 2017 05:57 pvsnp wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2017 04:04 Heartland wrote:On October 18 2017 03:43 Charoisaur wrote:On October 18 2017 03:30 Fango wrote:On October 18 2017 03:25 Olli wrote:On October 18 2017 03:24 Fango wrote:On October 18 2017 02:52 Boggyb wrote:On October 18 2017 02:44 pvsnp wrote:
Lmao at all this controversy. Maybe Gumiho is better than Neeb, maybe not. There's a reasonable argument to be made either way, and I expected Neeb to outrank at least one Korean in any case. Of all the Koreans, Gumiho's 2017 achievements are by far the least impressive. A single amazing run and nothing else does not a legend make. The fanboy rage is amusing, but immaterial.
Next spot could be Neeb, or TY, or soO. A single amazing run basically describes TY's 2017. Not only that, but TY's was 7 months ago compared to GuMiho's being approximately 4. In terms of current form, you can argue TY over GuMiho, but it isn't a super credible argument. You realise that "one amazing run" is more accurate to describe Gumiho's year right? Over the entirety of 2017, Gumiho has 2 ro8 finishes and a win. TY has 3 ro8 finshes, a ro4, a final, and a win 2 wins, WESG too. Oh yeah, I forgot about TY winning that bo7 showmatch against Maru. People never seem to talk about it on here for some reason he also beat Neeb who is a better player than Gumiho bringing us all back to the fact that the Unofficial World Champion is the only true way to measure Starcraft skill Mvp was the GOAT but Inno beat him H2H so he is GOAT but Taeja beat him H2H so thefore Taeja confirmed GOAT. It is known.
TRUE beats Taeja head-to-head and TL had the nerve to put him 15th....smh
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Oh man, thanks guys, that 4 pages i read were pure fun. Maybe just calm down a bit about a Ranking that has absolutely nothing to say. I like Gumiho and i think that was a great read, thanks for that. I personally dont think Neeb is better, but hey, its okay, the ro8 will be 8 koreans most likely anyway.
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I don't know about this one, I still think TvZ is Gumi's only real achilles heel. His TvT is great, maybe only second to Inno and his TvP is up there too.
That said, Gumi is in a group with Serral who's looked great vT lately and Inno who's obviously gonna be a challenge so there's a real chance that he doesn't make it out.
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soO or Neeb next I think, probably not fair to rank Neeb higher than anyone else other than soO even if he has been completely dominant in WCS and is number 1 on aligulac.
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