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GuMiho: Pandemonium in a Bottle - Rank 9 - Road to BlizzCo…
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands25135 Posts
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Luolis
Finland6077 Posts
On October 18 2017 00:19 engesser1 wrote: Not losing but respect. His games, it's an art style. He did so many this year, so much addictable. He rediscovered mech, tons of builds, and so much crazy things in GSL! RESPECT HIM! god damn. You know you can respect him even though he was placed under neeb on a list that has no impact on what is about to come. I'm not getting my panties in a twist even though i think Serral > Elazer, because it really does not matter. Just see how the games go and chill. | ||
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React42
United States12 Posts
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NyuBPrime
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DieuCure
France3195 Posts
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engesser1
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Fango
United Kingdom6446 Posts
But you can look at blizzcon groups and argue that Neeb has a better shot at reaching the ro8, so putting Neeb>Gumiho can be justified in that sense | ||
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React42
United States12 Posts
On October 18 2017 00:25 engesser1 wrote: Give the opportunity to KR pros play again WCS and we'll see the real meaning of your words. Well that's exactly what's going to happen in 10 days or so. | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil2277 Posts
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LtCalley
United States234 Posts
On October 18 2017 00:42 Morbidius wrote: Code A player better than GSL winner confirmed. gumiho didn't even make it to the quarterfinals of the qualifier of the kespa cup that Neeb won. i completely fail to see your point here. | ||
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youngjiddle
United States465 Posts
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Morbidius
Brazil2277 Posts
On October 18 2017 00:52 LtCalley wrote: gumiho didn't even make it to the quarterfinals of the qualifier of the kespa cup that Neeb won. i completely fail to see your point here. Why isn't Mvp #1 in this power rank? I heard he was the best in the world in 2011. | ||
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Ej_
44540 Posts
On October 18 2017 00:16 DieuCure wrote: Gumiho had the run of his life, then nothing in offline tournaments compared to the top top, sure they are near for the powerrank and maybe a little biaised because it's the best foreigners etc This is wrong to the point of being a straight up lie. Neeb and GuMiho's winrates versus opponents from South Korea, starting from the day after the GSL final GuMiho won: http://aligulac.com/players/4495/results/?after=2017-06-24&before=&event=&race=ptzr&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= http://aligulac.com/players/44/results/?after=2017-06-25&before=&event=&race=ptzr&country=KR&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op= GuMiho has higher winrate across twice as many games. Now, let's check what happens if we remove players with 0 broadcasted offline appearances in Korea in that period from both players' records: Neeb: -(3-0 Natural) -(2-0 gyulzzing) -(2-0 Billowy) -(10-0 TRUE) GuMiho: -(6-1 Billowy) -(2-0 MyuNgSiK) -(1-0 SuperNova) -(2-0 Natural) -(2-0 HerO) -(2-0 Spear) -(2-0 블랙맘바) -(2-0 gyulzzing) Neeb's record goes from 61-46 to 44-46. Yes, that's below 50%. 48,9%, to be precise. GuMiho's record goes from 143-102 to 124-101. That is 55,1%. I don't know when Neeb was in Korea and when in the NA so I don't have the expertise to filter his Olimoleague games where obviously he had to deal with high ping (not that playing from Europe stopped Nerchio from 2-0ing Classic). The only 2 offline tournaments they both played in was GSL Season 3 where Neeb was eliminated in winners and losers bracket by Hurricane and GuMiho advanced from his ro32 group over Elazer twice and then lost to Solar and a rematch to INnoVation in ro16. I know I'm just being baited by a troll that's been banned countless on reddit, but somehow barely gets actioned on this website, but this is more food for thought for anyone who thought Neeb and GuMiho were close, even excluding their lopsided H2H. | ||
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LtCalley
United States234 Posts
On October 18 2017 00:54 Morbidius wrote: Why isn't Mvp #1 in this power rank? I heard he was the best in the world in 2011. nice straw man, and a completely idiotic response to my post. but thanks for your contribution | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil2277 Posts
On October 18 2017 00:56 LtCalley wrote: nice straw man, and a completely idiotic response to my post. but thanks for your contribution God forbid i value results from 2 months ago more than what happened a year ago when judging form. | ||
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AzAlexZ
China1640 Posts
I think number 9 should be soO, then Gumiho/Neeb | ||
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jy_9876543210
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engesser1
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Boggyb
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq13610 Posts
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