Well, I don't think anyone should matchfix at all, but I'm living in a real world, not in some utopia, so there always will be someone who will (or at least try to) matchfix. My whole idea was just that if money is your prior and only concern and you want to get them quickly (no matter how you achieve that goal), then easy and possible way is to bet against yourself in a situation, where you are guaranteed spot at WCS finals, you already won that league before and you are going to play against player, who is no favourite in that match but also is perfectly capable of beating you, so there is smaller chance that anybody will accuse you of matchfixing. Anyone could lost against sOs in the GSL semifinals and it wouldn't be weird. But try to imagine that Stats lose in the GSL semifinals against I don't know Hurricane for example. That would be much more suspicious. In the end, I don't think anyone should matchfix, but reality is that matchfixing is common element of any sport, not just e-sport.

StormsInJuly

Sweden165 Posts

September 07 2017 14:17 GMT

#103

GGs. playing PvP vs sOs must be like, the most stressful experience in pro starcraft. I feel like his playstyle lets him punch above his weight in that matchup.

Cricketer12

United States14003 Posts

September 07 2017 14:17 GMT

#104

On September 07 2017 14:54 FvRGg wrote:
Is no one writing for TL anymore? These game recaps are super poor and luckluster.

Feel free to apply to join the team, I know they would happily welcome more writers.

swissman777

1106 Posts

September 07 2017 20:44 GMT

#105

On September 07 2017 21:30 maitiky wrote:
Well, I don't think anyone should matchfix at all, but I'm living in a real world, not in some utopia, so there always will be someone who will (or at least try to) matchfix. My whole idea was just that if money is your prior and only concern and you want to get them quickly (no matter how you achieve that goal), then easy and possible way is to bet against yourself in a situation, where you are guaranteed spot at WCS finals, you already won that league before and you are going to play against player, who is no favourite in that match but also is perfectly capable of beating you, so there is smaller chance that anybody will accuse you of matchfixing. Anyone could lost against sOs in the GSL semifinals and it wouldn't be weird. But try to imagine that Stats lose in the GSL semifinals against I don't know Hurricane for example. That would be much more suspicious. In the end, I don't think anyone should matchfix, but reality is that matchfixing is common element of any sport, not just e-sport.

Depends also on the games. Like if Hurricane played a game of his life then I would not be suspicious. Besides, if you're not confident in acting at all, matchfixing for a successful player like stats is actually risky. Even if you get a ton of money, if you're caught, I believe you have to give it all back.

Alarak89

United States882 Posts

September 07 2017 20:55 GMT

#106

On September 07 2017 15:58 yht9657 wrote:

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No offense but DT rush, proxy stargate into 3SG phoenix war, fast immortal push and proxy robo are truly a great deal of my ladder experience

But the question is can you apply and execute them well enough to defeat sOs or Stats?

htx.RuNe

12 Posts

September 07 2017 20:58 GMT

#107

I don't think he's disparaging their skill in any way, just commenting on overall game quality.

Jj_82

Swaziland419 Posts

September 07 2017 21:00 GMT

#108

On September 06 2017 23:58 Cricketer12 wrote:

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Disagree. His only hope is a massive inno choke

My thoughts exactly!!! :D

swissman777

1106 Posts

September 07 2017 21:07 GMT

#109

On September 08 2017 05:55 Alarak89 wrote:

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But the question is can you apply and execute them well enough to defeat sOs or Stats?

Even if you think every kind of "cheese" is no skill and no thought strat that magically works at gsl, there's no excuse for the immortal push game. It was not even an immortal push. It was a macro game into a timing that worked bc sOs read the game and executed it better than stats. If you're smarter than your opponent, but maybe lacking in mechanics you're the worse player :/ ????

Alarak89

United States882 Posts

September 07 2017 21:11 GMT

#110

On September 08 2017 05:58 htx.RuNe wrote:
I don't think he's disparaging their skill in any way, just commenting on overall game quality.

Again, "quality" is a subjective thing. I would say If you can execute all those "dirty tricks" as well as sOs or Stats, it will still be a high quality match. And that's one of the reasons why he is a Diamond Protoss whereas sOs (or any Protoss greats) is even beyond GM Protoss.

washikie

United States752 Posts

September 07 2017 21:42 GMT

#111

On September 07 2017 23:17 StormsInJuly wrote:
GGs. playing PvP vs sOs must be like, the most stressful experience in pro starcraft. I feel like his playstyle lets him punch above his weight in that matchup.

agreed its usually seemed like his strongest match, it must be so hard playing against some one who could and will do anything to throw you off your game especially in a match that is heavily dependent on mindgames.