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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 14 2017 21:53 GMT
#21
writers mad because inno > their fav
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Phattyasmo
Profile Joined October 2011
United States69 Posts
August 14 2017 22:14 GMT
#22
This is laughable; predicting Innovation doesn't make it through? Really?! I can see him losing to maybe Gumiho, if that, but to have alive 2-0 Inno....come on, what are you smoking?
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
August 14 2017 22:30 GMT
#23
On August 15 2017 07:14 Phattyasmo wrote:
This is laughable; predicting Innovation doesn't make it through? Really?! I can see him losing to maybe Gumiho, if that, but to have alive 2-0 Inno....come on, what are you smoking?


Is it likely? probably not but upsets do happen and he is in a pretty strong group
Bayaz90
Profile Joined July 2017
54 Posts
August 14 2017 22:59 GMT
#24
Prediction for group A is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Not http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/news-archive/386598-pl-round-one-preview level bad but still quite bad.
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
August 15 2017 02:44 GMT
#25
can't wait for Inno to advance first from group A and silence the 'and temporarily silencing the cries of bonjwa.' comment
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SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-23 14:14:33
August 15 2017 02:54 GMT
#26
GuMiho 2-1 INnoVation
Solar 2-0 aLive
Solar 2-0 GuMiho
INoVation 2-1 aLive
INoVation 2-1 GuMiho

1st: Solar
2nd: INoVation
3rd: GuMiho
4th: aLive

Let's face it, Solar is a god against terran right now. Look at his streak vs many other top terrans right now. He's going to 2-0 every terran he faces minus maybe INoNvation and ByuN. Good for him though, INoVation, who is better at TvZ than GuMiho is going to lose to GuMiho in the opening match so Solar doesn't have to play vs INoVation. Afterwards, we have INoVation, the best player in the world right now, will just ease by the other two players in the group, most likely going 2-1.

ByuN 2-1 herO
sOs 2-0 Bunny
ByuN 2-0 sOs
herO 2-1 Bunny
sOs 2-1 herO

1st: ByuN
2nd: sOs
3rd: herO
4th: Bunny

ByuN is the best player in this group and will advance in first place. I'm guessing he will drop one map to herO and that will be it. sOs is going to beat bunny pretty convincingly who will then get stomped by ByuN causing ByuN to come out in first. I do believe herO could bomb out as last place in this group but he'll probably go down 0-1 in the losers match and then come back and win it 2-1. We then have the PvP final match of sOs vs herO. I'm guessing 2-1 in favor of sOs.

soO 2-1 Dark
Classic 0-2 Rogue
soO 1-2 Rogue
Dark 2-0 Classic
soO 1-2 Dark

1st: Rogue
2nd: Dark
3rd: soO
4th: Classic

Sorry Dark, you're good but not soO good (until soO flusters and can't recover after his loss to Rogue). It is ZvZ though so I'd imagine something fishy catchy soO off guard. 2-1 soO. Next up, Classic vs Rogue. Talk about one sided. Classic will probably throw somehow even begin ahead. 2-0 Rogue. Battle of the two ZvZ masters with soO vs Rogue and although I think soO is better and will win his first game he will probably then end up losing game 2, getting flustered and losing. 2-1 Rogue. Losers match with Classic vs Dark is going to be sad because Classic already crashed and burned against Rogue so might as well do it to another top notch zerg. 2-0 Dark. The final match of the night will be Dark vs soO and it will be just like the first match and come down to the final game. Unfortunately for soO though, he's not going to relive his 2nd place curse over and over again and we'll finally see Dark going farther into GSL. 2-1 Dark.

Stats 2-1 Hurricane
TY 2-0 Patience
TY 2-0 Stats
Patience 2-0 Hurricane
Patience 2-1 Stats

1st: TY
2nd: Patience
3rd: Stats
4th: Hurriacane

Hurricane is going to take a super cheesy DT game off Stats which is going to put a chink in his armor and not make him as confident. TY then turns horseman and goes undefeated in his group 2-0ing both Patiences & Stats. Patiences absolutely crushes Hurricane and crushes him hard and carries that momentum into Stats, losing the first game, cheesing the second and winning into the epic 33 minute PvP slugfest on Ascension to Aiur to close out the night.
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-15 03:18:39
August 15 2017 03:18 GMT
#27
On August 15 2017 11:54 SidianTheBard wrote:
INnoVation 2-0 GuMiho
aLive 2-0 Solar
INnoVation 2-0 aLive
GuMiho 2-1 Solar
aLive 2-1 GuMiho

1st: INnoVation
2nd: aLive
3rd: GuMiho
4th: Solar

Let's face it, INnoVation is still the best and saying he won't make it past the Ro16 basically sets it in stone that TL doesn't know what they are talking about. After reading that Group A prediction you can basically throw the rest of the predictions in the trash... <3 aLive is going to edge our GuMiho in the final game of the night by making everything turn into chaos, drops, pushes, possible base trades, low scv count.

ByuN 2-0 herO
sOs 2-1 Bunny
sOs 2-1 ByuN
Bunny 2-1 herO
ByuN 2-0 Bunny

1st: sOs
2nd: ByuN
3rd: Bunny
4th: herO

ByuN will out micro herO to death. sOs will out macro (yes...out macro) Bunny. sOs is going to pull out some wacky and shit builds to beat ByuN. I'm guessing some type of Void Ray all in. Chargelot void ray all-in probably. herO won't recover from his brutal beating by ByuN and will choke to Bunny who will then just get outplayed by ByuN.

soO 2-0 Dark
Classic 2-0 Rogue
Classic 2-1 soO
Dark 2-0 Rogue
soO 2-0 Dark

1st: Classic
2nd: soO
3rd: Dark
4th: Rogue

As much as we want Dark to advance, he won't because soO and Classic. Dark beats Rogue 24/7 ezpz but Classic will have a shit load of good PvZ builds and only will practice that so he'll come out #1. Then at that point, it comes down to who can beat soO in ZvZ and that answer is nobody. Easiest group to call.

Stats 2-1 Hurricane
TY 2-0 Patience
TY 2-0 Stats
Patience 2-0 Hurricane
Patience 2-1 Stats

1st: TY
2nd: Patience
3rd: Stats
4th: Hurriacane

Hurricane is going to take a super cheesy DT game off Stats which is going to put a chink in his armor and not make him as confident. TY then turns horseman and goes undefeated in his group 2-0ing both Patiences & Stats. Patiences absolutely crushes Hurricane and crushes him hard and carries that momentum into Stats, losing the first game, cheesing the second and winning into the epic 33 minute PvP slugfest on Ascension to Aiur to close out the night.


lol i disagree with almost all of your predictions, should be interesting to see what happens
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-15 05:23:01
August 15 2017 03:20 GMT
#28
On August 15 2017 11:54 SidianTheBard wrote:
INnoVation 2-0 GuMiho
aLive 2-0 Solar
INnoVation 2-0 aLive
GuMiho 2-1 Solar
aLive 2-1 GuMiho

1st: INnoVation
2nd: aLive
3rd: GuMiho
4th: Solar

Let's face it, INnoVation is still the best and saying he won't make it past the Ro16 basically sets it in stone that TL doesn't know what they are talking about. After reading that Group A prediction you can basically throw the rest of the predictions in the trash... <3 aLive is going to edge our GuMiho in the final game of the night by making everything turn into chaos, drops, pushes, possible base trades, low scv count.

ByuN 2-0 herO
sOs 2-1 Bunny
sOs 2-1 ByuN
Bunny 2-1 herO
ByuN 2-0 Bunny

1st: sOs
2nd: ByuN
3rd: Bunny
4th: herO

ByuN will out micro herO to death. sOs will out macro (yes...out macro) Bunny. sOs is going to pull out some wacky and shit builds to beat ByuN. I'm guessing some type of Void Ray all in. Chargelot void ray all-in probably. herO won't recover from his brutal beating by ByuN and will choke to Bunny who will then just get outplayed by ByuN.

soO 2-0 Dark
Classic 2-0 Rogue
Classic 2-1 soO
Dark 2-0 Rogue
soO 2-0 Dark

1st: Classic
2nd: soO
3rd: Dark
4th: Rogue

As much as we want Dark to advance, he won't because soO and Classic. Dark beats Rogue 24/7 ezpz but Classic will have a shit load of good PvZ builds and only will practice that so he'll come out #1. Then at that point, it comes down to who can beat soO in ZvZ and that answer is nobody. Easiest group to call.

Stats 2-1 Hurricane
TY 2-0 Patience
TY 2-0 Stats
Patience 2-0 Hurricane
Patience 2-1 Stats

1st: TY
2nd: Patience
3rd: Stats
4th: Hurriacane

Hurricane is going to take a super cheesy DT game off Stats which is going to put a chink in his armor and not make him as confident. TY then turns horseman and goes undefeated in his group 2-0ing both Patiences & Stats. Patiences absolutely crushes Hurricane and crushes him hard and carries that momentum into Stats, losing the first game, cheesing the second and winning into the epic 33 minute PvP slugfest on Ascension to Aiur to close out the night.

Rogue 3-0'd Dark at IEM Shanghai and also beat him in ShoutCraft 2 days ago
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PuddleZerg
Profile Joined August 2015
United States82 Posts
August 15 2017 03:24 GMT
#29
Some of these predictions are wack.
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AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-15 05:17:00
August 15 2017 03:32 GMT
#30
Group A:
(T)INnoVation 2:1 (T)GuMiho
(T)aLive 2-0 (Z)Solar
(T)INnoVation 2:0 (T)aLive
(Z)Solar 2:1 (T)GuMiho
(Z)Solar 2:1 (T)aLive
(T)INnoVation and (Z)Solar advances
The Night of Curses: (T)GuMiho will go out first as per the GSL Champ curse and (T)aLive will go out by the Rematch Curse

Group B:
(T)ByuN 2:1 (P)herO
(T)Bunny 2:1 (P)sOs
(T)ByuN 2-1 (T)Bunny
(P)sOs 2-0 (P)herO
(P)sOs 2-0 (T)Bunny
(T)ByuN and (P)sOs advances
Just like in Season 2 (P)herO will get his ass handed to him by (T)ByuN, and with (P)sOs you know (P)herO's in for a whooping
(T)Bunny also suffers from the rematch curse and lose to (P)sOs

Group C:
(Z)soO 2:0 (Z)Dark
(Z)Rogue 2:0 (P)Classic
(Z)soO 2-1 (Z)Rogue
(Z)Dark 2-1 (P)Classic
(Z)Rogue 2-0 (Z)Dark
(Z)soO and (Z)Rogue advances
(P)Classic will get rekt by his weak link that is PvZ and (Z)Dark will once again fall under (Z)soO and (Z)Rogue's solid ZvZ.

Group D:
(P)Stats 2-0 (P)Hurricane
(T)TY 2:0 (P)Patience
(T)TY 2:0 (P)Stats
(P)Patience 2:1 (P)Hurricane
(P)Stats 2:0 (P)Patience
(T)TY and (P)Stats advance
(P)Hurricane and (P)Patience will get mauled by their opposition and go out faster then one can say '(P)Neeb'

Playoffs:
(T)INnoVation 3-0 (P)sOs
(Z)soO 3-1 (P)Stats
(Z)Solar 3-2 (T)ByuN
(Z)Rogue 3-1 (T)TY

(T)INnoVation 3-2 (Z)soO
(Z)Rogue 3-1 (Z)Solar

(T)INnoVation 4-2 (Z)Rogue and becomes the undisputed Bonjwa
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
August 15 2017 06:12 GMT
#31
On August 15 2017 11:54 SidianTheBard wrote:
INnoVation 2-0 GuMiho
aLive 2-0 Solar
INnoVation 2-0 aLive
GuMiho 2-1 Solar
aLive 2-1 GuMiho

1st: INnoVation
2nd: aLive
3rd: GuMiho
4th: Solar

Let's face it, INnoVation is still the best and saying he won't make it past the Ro16 basically sets it in stone that TL doesn't know what they are talking about. After reading that Group A prediction you can basically throw the rest of the predictions in the trash... <3 aLive is going to edge our GuMiho in the final game of the night by making everything turn into chaos, drops, pushes, possible base trades, low scv count.

ByuN 2-0 herO
sOs 2-1 Bunny
sOs 2-1 ByuN
Bunny 2-1 herO
ByuN 2-0 Bunny

1st: sOs
2nd: ByuN
3rd: Bunny
4th: herO

ByuN will out micro herO to death. sOs will out macro (yes...out macro) Bunny. sOs is going to pull out some wacky and shit builds to beat ByuN. I'm guessing some type of Void Ray all in. Chargelot void ray all-in probably. herO won't recover from his brutal beating by ByuN and will choke to Bunny who will then just get outplayed by ByuN.

soO 2-0 Dark
Classic 2-0 Rogue
Classic 2-1 soO
Dark 2-0 Rogue
soO 2-0 Dark

1st: Classic
2nd: soO
3rd: Dark
4th: Rogue

As much as we want Dark to advance, he won't because soO and Classic. Dark beats Rogue 24/7 ezpz but Classic will have a shit load of good PvZ builds and only will practice that so he'll come out #1. Then at that point, it comes down to who can beat soO in ZvZ and that answer is nobody. Easiest group to call.

Stats 2-1 Hurricane
TY 2-0 Patience
TY 2-0 Stats
Patience 2-0 Hurricane
Patience 2-1 Stats

1st: TY
2nd: Patience
3rd: Stats
4th: Hurriacane

Hurricane is going to take a super cheesy DT game off Stats which is going to put a chink in his armor and not make him as confident. TY then turns horseman and goes undefeated in his group 2-0ing both Patiences & Stats. Patiences absolutely crushes Hurricane and crushes him hard and carries that momentum into Stats, losing the first game, cheesing the second and winning into the epic 33 minute PvP slugfest on Ascension to Aiur to close out the night.

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Veluvian
Profile Joined December 2011
Bulgaria256 Posts
August 15 2017 06:58 GMT
#32
We all know that Innovation's strong phase enters in the second half of the year. He got 2 GSL titles like that. Rather he is not showing his full potential yet, it is not wise to count him out.
I've always been surprised why people predict herO to beat them all. He is not ready yet for a Code S finals. Quick matches and fast aggression are not the keys to jump to Round 8.
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EEk1TwEEk
Profile Joined June 2017
Russian Federation193 Posts
August 15 2017 07:06 GMT
#33
OK this predictions are trash

and btw why everyone says that soO beats Rogue in a ZvZ? I think Rogue will revenge. He should have won in Ro8 against soO 3-1 in 2nd Season
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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
August 15 2017 07:32 GMT
#34
On August 15 2017 04:17 pvsnp wrote:
Betting against Inno's TvT after he swept TY seems a bit....presumptuous. I could see Gumiho (barely) winning their series but aLive has been distinctly unimpressive as of late.

Also probably worth noting that Inno vs Gumiho's most recent occurrence was in OGTV's 6 start tournament two days ago, when Inno reverse-swept Gumiho in the finals. The final match saw Inno's mech beating Gumiho's bio.



It just pure bias, using stats from april and march and ignoring the recent TvT improvment of INno. Don't get me wrong, he can totaly be eliminated by aLive and gumi but that is not the most likely case. A lot of salt behind those predictions, maybe because INnoVation is on his way to definitly surpass Mvp
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Sakat
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
Croatia1599 Posts
August 15 2017 07:45 GMT
#35
I think INnoVation and GuMiho advance from group A, but all the other groups seem kinda dull to me.
herO, ByuN, soO, Rogue, TY and Stats are obvious picks
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Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
August 15 2017 07:45 GMT
#36
On August 15 2017 16:06 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
OK this predictions are trash

and btw why everyone says that soO beats Rogue in a ZvZ? I think Rogue will revenge. He should have won in Ro8 against soO 3-1 in 2nd Season

With that logic soO should have won 6 GSLs.
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starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
August 15 2017 07:54 GMT
#37
On August 15 2017 16:45 Durnuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 16:06 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
OK this predictions are trash

and btw why everyone says that soO beats Rogue in a ZvZ? I think Rogue will revenge. He should have won in Ro8 against soO 3-1 in 2nd Season

With that logic soO should have won 6 GSLs.


Rogue vs soO was much much closer than the majority of soO's finals
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13326 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-15 07:56:52
August 15 2017 07:56 GMT
#38
On August 15 2017 16:54 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 16:45 Durnuu wrote:
On August 15 2017 16:06 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
OK this predictions are trash

and btw why everyone says that soO beats Rogue in a ZvZ? I think Rogue will revenge. He should have won in Ro8 against soO 3-1 in 2nd Season

With that logic soO should have won 6 GSLs.


Rogue vs soO was much much closer than the majority of soO's finals

That's irrelevant. He's basically saying "If Rogue hadn't made a mistake, he would have won". Well no shit, if soO hadn't made mistakes he would have won his GSLs. If Maru had closed his wall in IEM Taipei, he would have won. But they didn't.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-15 08:20:30
August 15 2017 08:19 GMT
#39
On August 15 2017 16:45 Sakat wrote:
I think INnoVation and GuMiho advance from group A, but all the other groups seem kinda dull to me.
herO, ByuN, soO, Rogue, TY and Stats are obvious picks

Tbh the only one that looks really obvious on paper is group D since TY and Stats are just actually in a very different tier than Patience and Hurricane. Like yeah, ByuN and herO are the favorites in group B, but they play each other first which gives the group a bunch of upset potential. And everyone in group C is a god (although Dark against the best ZvZers in Korea probably means he's just screwed again).
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-15 08:45:24
August 15 2017 08:43 GMT
#40
On August 15 2017 17:19 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2017 16:45 Sakat wrote:
I think INnoVation and GuMiho advance from group A, but all the other groups seem kinda dull to me.
herO, ByuN, soO, Rogue, TY and Stats are obvious picks

Tbh the only one that looks really obvious on paper is group D since TY and Stats are just actually in a very different tier than Patience and Hurricane. Like yeah, ByuN and herO are the favorites in group B, but they play each other first which gives the group a bunch of upset potential. And everyone in group C is a god (although Dark against the best ZvZers in Korea probably means he's just screwed again).

C doesn't seem so hard tbh. Rogue and soO are the clear favorites because Classic's PvZ is really struggling (except for his mass Oracle play but Dark already beat that in SSL) and Dark's ZvZ is just not up to par with that of Rogue/soO.

Agreed on TY and Stats for D.

B is trickier in that herO would be a clear favorite except sOs is also there, so I'd have to say ByuN/sOs though it's really hard to call.

A is the trickiest of all because TvT is just so volatile. Also Solar can't be underestimated since he only has to prep for ZvT and has always been a clever/creative guy. Inno is a slight favorite but that's about all I can say. If I had to guess I would go Inno/Gumi but Inno/Solar is also very possible and all the other combos are only marginally less likely. aLive definitely seems the underdog here though, but that's mostly because he just hasn't played in much of anything recently (except SSL where he's gotten wrecked) so it's hard to estimate his current form.
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