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I kinda expected to see Stephano on that list, since he has been streaming so much with the donation goal supposedly covering the travel expenses for DH Austin :/.
He is in such a good form too.
Well top 8 should basically be the EU challenger winners plus Neeb and some BTTV house members I guess  .
Although seeing uThermal bounce back would also be cool!
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#passion for uThermal! Gogo! And you too Drogo!
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Happy to see TIME again, it's always fun to watch the Chinese players
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Full player list? What about the players yet to qualify from Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau and Japan? 
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I'm interested to see how well NonY does and if his Blizzcon passion is still alive. Will be cheering for him!
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Dude I signed up for this tournament in the open bracket where is my name??? I already emailed esport@dreamhack.com about this. Is there anybody else that I need to get in touch with?
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On April 11 2017 01:44 alexanderzero wrote:
Dude I signed up for this tournament in the open bracket where is my name??? I already emailed esport@dreamhack.com about this. Is there anybody else that I need to get in touch with?
Well there are only 64 spots in the open bracket, so not everyone who signed up will be able to play.
I guess most of the spots are reserved for known players and pros, while the others went to people who signed up before you.
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All aboard the Neeb Hype Train, let's win it!!!!!
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Avilo raging live, awesome.
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On April 11 2017 02:00 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2017 01:44 alexanderzero wrote:
Dude I signed up for this tournament in the open bracket where is my name??? I already emailed esport@dreamhack.com about this. Is there anybody else that I need to get in touch with? Well there are only 64 spots in the open bracket, so not everyone who signed up will be able to play. I guess most of the spots are reserved for known players and pros, while the others went to people who signed up before you.
That's bullshit. The entire premise of tournaments at dreamhack is that they're an open bracket that anyone is allowed to play in. The sign-up page of their website is STILL open right now. Don't I at least have the opportunity to fight for a spot online then? There's no mention on their site of it being first come first serve.
I've been looking forward to this since DH Austin was even announced.
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Avilo going? I don't think so honestly, his dreamhack donation requirement hasn't reached its goal so far.
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Yeah I see this mostly being a contest between Neeb and some of the top Europeans, but I'll be cheering for my boy Iaguz
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On April 11 2017 02:04 alexanderzero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2017 02:00 Musicus wrote:On April 11 2017 01:44 alexanderzero wrote:
Dude I signed up for this tournament in the open bracket where is my name??? I already emailed esport@dreamhack.com about this. Is there anybody else that I need to get in touch with? Well there are only 64 spots in the open bracket, so not everyone who signed up will be able to play. I guess most of the spots are reserved for known players and pros, while the others went to people who signed up before you. That's bullshit. The entire premise of tournaments at dreamhack is that they're an open bracket that anyone is allowed to play in. The sign-up page of their website is STILL open right now. Don't I at least have the opportunity to fight for a spot online then? There's no mention on their site of it being first come first serve. I've been looking forward to this since DH Austin was even announced.
Well I'm just assuming how things might work anyway.
Hopefully Heyoka can clear things up. But the number of spots was always limited to 64 and they have to choose somehow.
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If they have to choose somehow then they need to be transparent about how they're going to do that. I could have signed up sooner but when I attended dreamhack last year there were a ton of open slots so I didn't think it would be an issue this time around. They also never sent me any sort of email even after I signed up. Really bad planning on their part I have to say.
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Avilo going? I don't think so honestly, his dreamhack donation requirement hasn't reached its goal so far.
HEy u need 3 k to travel from the US to the well.. US . He has not the cheap travel costs of these lucky europeans
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Pandemona
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On April 11 2017 01:23 Elentos wrote:
"Special"
Nice try MajOr.
What do you mean, I cant follow?
Why "Special"
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On April 11 2017 02:08 Darkhorse wrote:
Yeah I see this mostly being a contest between Neeb and some of the top Europeans, but I'll be cheering for my boy Iaguz
OUR boy m8!
GO BEARD!!!
can't wait for evilo to start accusing people of hacking on LAN lol!
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On April 11 2017 02:36 AlexGPunkt wrote:What do you mean, I cant follow? Why "Special"
Originally the OP said Special instead of MajOr.
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On April 11 2017 01:44 alexanderzero wrote:
Dude I signed up for this tournament in the open bracket where is my name??? I already emailed esport@dreamhack.com about this. Is there anybody else that I need to get in touch with?
Looking into it now but will send an email in the morning as everyone is out of the office 
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Happy to see Scarlett attending, looking forward to watching her wade through the open bracket to victory
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On April 11 2017 02:59 Heyoka wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2017 01:44 alexanderzero wrote:
Dude I signed up for this tournament in the open bracket where is my name??? I already emailed esport@dreamhack.com about this. Is there anybody else that I need to get in touch with? Looking into it now but will send an email in the morning as everyone is out of the office
Ok, I heard from someone on twitter that I'm on a wait list. I wish you guys would have sent an email so I didn't have to find out they way I did because I was really mad when the player list came out and I had not heard anything at all.
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Are we gonna have a For Honor stream? If so, who casts it?
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Is this definitive?
I wanted to see Stephano compete so badly :/.
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Routa I think I found out who I'm cheering for... gogo NonY!
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On April 11 2017 01:22 Musicus wrote:I kinda expected to see Stephano on that list, since he has been streaming so much with the donation goal supposedly covering the travel expenses for DH Austin :/. He is in such a good form too. Well top 8 should basically be the EU challenger winners plus Neeb and some BTTV house members I guess . Although seeing uThermal bounce back would also be cool!
You got to remember that the 16 challengers are seeded into stage 3 so we will probably see some favorites die in early groups of death.
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Groups of death increase the hype.
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On April 11 2017 04:29 SNSeigifried wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2017 01:22 Musicus wrote:I kinda expected to see Stephano on that list, since he has been streaming so much with the donation goal supposedly covering the travel expenses for DH Austin :/. He is in such a good form too. Well top 8 should basically be the EU challenger winners plus Neeb and some BTTV house members I guess . Although seeing uThermal bounce back would also be cool! You got to remember that the 16 challengers are seeded into stage 3 so we will probably see some favorites die in early groups of death.
Well the fact that they get seeded is good I think. It means Snute, Nerchio, Serral, Showtime will be split up in different groups.
It would be really unlucky if they got two more out of Neeb, Scarlett, Major, Drogo and uThermal into their group.
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Very solid list of Europeans going I have to say, that is awesome!
Still, it hurts that we are close to May when this tourney will kick off and this is the first WCS of the year. We should have had 2 different champions already in the non-Korean circuit, with lots of hypes and whatnot. But yeah, when 60% of the circuit was unceremoniously cut from one year to another, one will have to get used to loooong periods of little to no high-level action... 
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Glad to see NonY competing at Austin. He was unfortunate missing out the NA Challenger due to some timing. He has a good chance at open bracket!
Good luck!
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"open bracket" when apparently it's not so open....
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On April 11 2017 01:25 ArtyK wrote:
#passion for uThermal! Gogo! And you too Drogo! He's nice_username, isn't he?
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Am i the only one that gets tiny ocd from this?
ROOT Gaming puCK
ROOT Probe
ROOT Gaming Iaguz
ROOT PandaBearMe
ROOT Gaming ViBE
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Yeah it's weird. Please fix the OP.
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Not even OSC-ROOT as well
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On April 11 2017 06:29 [Svall]Granis wrote:
Am i the only one that gets tiny ocd from this?
ROOT Gaming puCK
ROOT Probe
ROOT Gaming Iaguz
ROOT PandaBearMe
ROOT Gaming ViBE
And the famous Team Liquid LiquidTLO!
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Keen for avilo live should be interesting
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On April 11 2017 08:31 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2017 06:29 [Svall]Granis wrote:
Am i the only one that gets tiny ocd from this?
ROOT Gaming puCK
ROOT Probe
ROOT Gaming Iaguz
ROOT PandaBearMe
ROOT Gaming ViBE And the famous Team Liquid LiquidTLO!
probably a result of data being pulled straight from the forms used to sign up. it asks for team and ID in separate fields. here's my guess: some of the ROOT guys put ROOT, some put ROOT Gaming. TLO put Team Liquid for his team but then also put his team tag in his ID
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This should be pretty gud.
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weird, what about Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau and Japan region??
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yeah that's why I don't understand since the title is "full player"
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On April 11 2017 04:46 AshC wrote:
Glad to see NonY competing at Austin. He was unfortunate missing out the NA Challenger due to some timing. He has a good chance at open bracket!
Good luck!
Totally agree, I was really excited to see him on the player list. Hope to see some great games from this.
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On April 11 2017 02:02 xTJx wrote:
Avilo raging live, awesome.
hopefully he shows up
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On April 11 2017 12:10 Shellshock wrote:hopefully he shows up
I can imagine him lecturing the audience about how his opponent is a maphacker while he's just sitting there wondering WTF is going on.
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Nice! Rooting for mah fav zergs Scarlett, Snute, SortOf and of course also MCanning since his twitter game will be power overwhelming as usual
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On April 11 2017 02:04 alexanderzero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2017 02:00 Musicus wrote:On April 11 2017 01:44 alexanderzero wrote:
Dude I signed up for this tournament in the open bracket where is my name??? I already emailed esport@dreamhack.com about this. Is there anybody else that I need to get in touch with? Well there are only 64 spots in the open bracket, so not everyone who signed up will be able to play. I guess most of the spots are reserved for known players and pros, while the others went to people who signed up before you. That's bullshit. The entire premise of tournaments at dreamhack is that they're an open bracket that anyone is allowed to play in. The sign-up page of their website is STILL open right now. Don't I at least have the opportunity to fight for a spot online then? There's no mention on their site of it being first come first serve. I've been looking forward to this since DH Austin was even announced.
Pretty sure the spots are given with priority to WCS 2016 points
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Looking forward to it
Best of luck to Time and iA, it has been a long time since a Chinese player performed and this might be their chance to shine. Hopefully some other Chinese pros make it to US to play in the offline qualifiers.
edit:
wooo nice
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But the tournament is full? Are they just sending him, hoping that lots of people drop out? Because I think there are already many on the waiting list even.
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On April 11 2017 20:33 Musicus wrote:But the tournament is full? Are they just sending him, hoping that lots of people drop out? Because I think there are already many on the waiting list even.
I'll talk to heyoka and see what's up then. Was already asked by xiaose about the situation.
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On April 11 2017 09:14 NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2017 08:31 Poopi wrote:On April 11 2017 06:29 [Svall]Granis wrote:
Am i the only one that gets tiny ocd from this?
ROOT Gaming puCK
ROOT Probe
ROOT Gaming Iaguz
ROOT PandaBearMe
ROOT Gaming ViBE And the famous Team Liquid LiquidTLO! probably a result of data being pulled straight from the forms used to sign up. it asks for team and ID in separate fields. here's my guess: some of the ROOT guys put ROOT, some put ROOT Gaming. TLO put Team Liquid for his team but then also put his team tag in his ID
I do think that is the case for the open bracket people, but for Probe and Iaguz they didn't sign up, they won the qualifiers and were written down manually.
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On April 11 2017 02:00 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2017 01:44 alexanderzero wrote:
Dude I signed up for this tournament in the open bracket where is my name??? I already emailed esport@dreamhack.com about this. Is there anybody else that I need to get in touch with? Well there are only 64 spots in the open bracket, so not everyone who signed up will be able to play. I guess most of the spots are reserved for known players and pros, while the others went to people who signed up before you.
Is it really done by who signed up first?
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Why so few spots for the open bracket tho? Not enough computers?
Double group stage usually goes quite fast
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On April 11 2017 23:36 Ansibled wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2017 02:00 Musicus wrote:On April 11 2017 01:44 alexanderzero wrote:
Dude I signed up for this tournament in the open bracket where is my name??? I already emailed esport@dreamhack.com about this. Is there anybody else that I need to get in touch with? Well there are only 64 spots in the open bracket, so not everyone who signed up will be able to play. I guess most of the spots are reserved for known players and pros, while the others went to people who signed up before you. Is it really done by who signed up first?
No idea, I was just guessing.
It's safe to assume that pros had priority and were seeded by WCS points, but after that it's not clear.
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last year a *lot* of people dropped out closer to the event and wound up being replaced by others on the wait list. dont lose hope.
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the moment I read WCS Autism Full Player List...
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On April 12 2017 01:13 Subflow wrote:
the moment I read WCS Autism Full Player List...
got that covered with avilo though (propably getting at least a warning for this)
Also hyped Nony is playing good luck man
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User was temp banned for this post.
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On April 12 2017 01:32 Corvuuss wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2017 01:13 Subflow wrote:
the moment I read WCS Autism Full Player List... got that covered with avilo though (propably getting at least a warning for this) Also hyped Nony is playing good luck man
While you mention this.. in fact recently watched avilos stream for about 3 minutes (couldnt take it any longer)... maybe that influenced me subconsciously...
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Anyone know the procedure for getting in early on Friday to warm up? We're instructed to use a visitor pass and last year that didn't get me in early. From what I understand it's the same pass used for people who just want to watch the event but obviously a player has to get in early. Finally I insisted on getting in early, explaining I was playing in the tournament, only to find that dozens of players were already there and warming up.
So two questions: what is the earliest time we can come to warm up and how do we get into the venue at that time?
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On April 12 2017 03:46 NonY wrote:
Anyone know the procedure for getting in early on Friday to warm up? We're instructed to use a visitor pass and last year that didn't get me in early. From what I understand it's the same pass used for people who just want to watch the event but obviously a player has to get in early. Finally I insisted on getting in early, explaining I was playing in the tournament, only to find that dozens of players were already there and warming up.
So two questions: what is the earliest time we can come to warm up and how do we get into the venue at that time?
Ask Heyoka/Steisjo on Twitter/Skype or send a mail.
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I am really excited to see Nony. My fav. player of all time.
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avilo will be disqualified for raging rofl.
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On April 11 2017 23:36 Ansibled wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2017 02:00 Musicus wrote:On April 11 2017 01:44 alexanderzero wrote:
Dude I signed up for this tournament in the open bracket where is my name??? I already emailed esport@dreamhack.com about this. Is there anybody else that I need to get in touch with? Well there are only 64 spots in the open bracket, so not everyone who signed up will be able to play. I guess most of the spots are reserved for known players and pros, while the others went to people who signed up before you. Is it really done by who signed up first?
Yes apparently it is (I've gotten email confirmation since then). I had to harass people for an explanation as to why I wasn't on the player list that got publicly announced because I wasn't given any information after registering for the tournament. Another nice thing is that you don't actually need a dreamhack ticket to sign up for the tournament, so it's impossible to guess how many no-shows there will actually be.
Basically the people who are accepted into the open bracket get a computer that they get to use for almost the entirety of dreamhack which means you can just hang out and play SC2 in a special area that spectators aren't allowed in. It's really boring otherwise.
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On April 12 2017 04:20 lastride wrote:
Where is Mana?
He is on the list.
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On April 12 2017 03:46 NonY wrote:
Anyone know the procedure for getting in early on Friday to warm up? We're instructed to use a visitor pass and last year that didn't get me in early. From what I understand it's the same pass used for people who just want to watch the event but obviously a player has to get in early. Finally I insisted on getting in early, explaining I was playing in the tournament, only to find that dozens of players were already there and warming up.
So two questions: what is the earliest time we can come to warm up and how do we get into the venue at that time?
Best of luck man! Looking forward to your matches!
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On April 12 2017 04:23 ByuuN wrote:
avilo will be disqualified for raging rofl.
I really hope he shows up, plays and behaves.
Open brackets have 2 group stages. That is a lot of matches to play. Players just want to play and move along so they can be done. Then, get some rest, practice and have some fun. If Avilo is gonna throw tantrums and stuff causing delays, it is gonna impact other players in his group. No one wants that.
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The true mech god will finally get to show that the door to M E C H C I T Y is not for everybody to go through!
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i will hopefully be there, good luck to liquid players
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whiteys assemble
i see 1 korean flag tho, scary
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about time to have a tourney going on, can't wait for that open bracket battle royale lol
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Should've had more slots >.> Hopefully I can get it if there are no shows
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Many will be watching avilo's game not because of his Terran control but they will be waiting for him to name another player as maphacker or to unload trashT on his opponent when he loses. 
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On April 12 2017 03:46 NonY wrote:
Anyone know the procedure for getting in early on Friday to warm up? We're instructed to use a visitor pass and last year that didn't get me in early. From what I understand it's the same pass used for people who just want to watch the event but obviously a player has to get in early. Finally I insisted on getting in early, explaining I was playing in the tournament, only to find that dozens of players were already there and warming up.
So two questions: what is the earliest time we can come to warm up and how do we get into the venue at that time?
Last year this was a bit goofy because the venue opened really late on Friday, this year the general admission opens at 10am and the ro80 will start at 1pm so there should be good time to get settled and warm up. Can just walk in with your general access badge since the venue will be open.
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Why no koreans? I mean how am I supposed to enjoy high quality sc2 when there is no a single real korean pro?
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On April 12 2017 17:17 Heyoka wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2017 03:46 NonY wrote:
Anyone know the procedure for getting in early on Friday to warm up? We're instructed to use a visitor pass and last year that didn't get me in early. From what I understand it's the same pass used for people who just want to watch the event but obviously a player has to get in early. Finally I insisted on getting in early, explaining I was playing in the tournament, only to find that dozens of players were already there and warming up.
So two questions: what is the earliest time we can come to warm up and how do we get into the venue at that time? Last year this was a bit goofy because the venue opened really late on Friday, this year the general admission opens at 10am and the ro80 will start at 1pm so there should be good time to get settled and warm up. Can just walk in with your general access badge since the venue will be open.
Ok that's much simpler, thanks.
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Just watching avilo's stream to laugh at his crap. It seems his chat guys say that avilo got $2400 but isn't going to Dreamhack. True or false? :D
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On April 13 2017 08:48 Shield wrote:
Just watching avilo's stream to laugh at his crap. It seems his chat guys say that avilo got $2400 but isn't going to Dreamhack. True or false? :D
that would be pretty close to a scam
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On April 13 2017 08:48 Shield wrote:
Just watching avilo's stream to laugh at his crap. It seems his chat guys say that avilo got $2400 but isn't going to Dreamhack. True or false? :D
Has he even ever competed for real?
I feel like he'll be afraid to go there but I would like to see his results in LAN.
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On April 12 2017 21:07 0mg_t1red wrote:
Why no koreans? I mean how am I supposed to enjoy high quality sc2 when there is no a single real korean pro?
plenty of very good foreigners in SC2, don't be a dickhead
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On April 13 2017 08:54 ROOTFayth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2017 08:48 Shield wrote:
Just watching avilo's stream to laugh at his crap. It seems his chat guys say that avilo got $2400 but isn't going to Dreamhack. True or false? :D that would be pretty close to a scam
Domestic airfare and a hotel for 1 for the weekend shouldn't even cost $2400 to begin with.
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On April 13 2017 08:55 ROOTFayth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2017 21:07 0mg_t1red wrote:
Why no koreans? I mean how am I supposed to enjoy high quality sc2 when there is no a single real korean pro? plenty of very good foreigners in SC2, don't be a dickhead
It's a sad day in Starcraft 2 when TRUE is not recognized as a "real Korean pro," although he has admittedly fallen off from his JAG days. Besides, now that there's foreigners in Code S, can we really say that the top foreigners aren't "real Korean pro" level?
Also, as a side note, Major beat Hurricane, who has gone on to two impressive online victories.
EDIT: Also, 500th post!
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OP can add the best of the best protoss  Has and Bistork as the qualifiers are now done.
I'm sad that Stephano is not going. i understood he meant to watching his stream lately...
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Pretty cool to see Optimus going as well.
I also love the old MLG vibe this has. So many NA scene players like Neuro Ruff State Vibe Pokebunny Bails Masa and of course avilo. I hope we get to see a lot of open matches
The return of Nony
I remember Probe being surprisingly good sometimes too
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On April 14 2017 01:11 Serimek wrote:OP can add the best of the best protoss Has and Bistork as the qualifiers are now done. I'm sad that Stephano is not going. i understood he meant to watching his stream lately...
it was cool to see Sen come back and almost made it. lost to Bistork in the semis
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State canceled replaced by Draven.
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On April 13 2017 08:54 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2017 08:48 Shield wrote:
Just watching avilo's stream to laugh at his crap. It seems his chat guys say that avilo got $2400 but isn't going to Dreamhack. True or false? :D Has he even ever competed for real? I feel like he'll be afraid to go there but I would like to see his results in LAN.
i don't remember who, but somebody posted in the WCS thread that they played avilo at a lan once and he complained about lag when he lost so...
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Cyan might not be going due to visa issues.
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On April 16 2017 13:49 Meepman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2017 08:54 Poopi wrote:On April 13 2017 08:48 Shield wrote:
Just watching avilo's stream to laugh at his crap. It seems his chat guys say that avilo got $2400 but isn't going to Dreamhack. True or false? :D Has he even ever competed for real? I feel like he'll be afraid to go there but I would like to see his results in LAN. i don't remember who, but somebody posted in the WCS thread that they played avilo at a lan once and he complained about lag when he lost so...
LOL. Lag at a LAN event? Boy, a guy who is almost 30 still can't man up enough to accept losses. I almost feel bad for him.
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Looking forward to seeing lots of old friends
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glhf nony <3
Also please people stop the avi bashing, you are only making yourself look ridiculous..
avi legit loves sc and going to austin is probably a dream come true for him, so why belittle his efforts? jealous much?
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On April 16 2017 13:49 Meepman wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2017 08:54 Poopi wrote:On April 13 2017 08:48 Shield wrote:
Just watching avilo's stream to laugh at his crap. It seems his chat guys say that avilo got $2400 but isn't going to Dreamhack. True or false? :D Has he even ever competed for real? I feel like he'll be afraid to go there but I would like to see his results in LAN. i don't remember who, but somebody posted in the WCS thread that they played avilo at a lan once and he complained about lag when he lost so...
rofl that sounds idiotic. Although i do remember at one event something was wrong with the internet (for everyone) that could be what someone was referring to otherwise just someone making up random bs.
On April 13 2017 08:48 Shield wrote:
Just watching avilo's stream to laugh at his crap. It seems his chat guys say that avilo got $2400 but isn't going to Dreamhack. True or false? :D
On April 13 2017 08:54 ROOTFayth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2017 08:48 Shield wrote:
Just watching avilo's stream to laugh at his crap. It seems his chat guys say that avilo got $2400 but isn't going to Dreamhack. True or false? :D that would be pretty close to a scam
I am not on a team so i personally would have to cover all the costs of travel, hotel, etc. I always have a stream goal of like 100$ per day normally because why not i'm one of the top SC2 streamers xD.
So i set an even higher goal for this event hoping to essentially crowdfund the cost of travel, hotel, lost stream time, etc.
Unfortunately haven't met the goal, i basically just made what i would have streaming normally over the last 30 or so days. The mega high donation goal was to hopefully spur people on to get me to the event.
Do people really think paying to go to events is mega cheap? Hotels can cost couple hundred over the course of a few nights (variable), and plane tickets are also hundreds of dollars.
The time lost streaming aka working is also a lot of income gone for going to these events. So yeh.
I was very transparent about the goal i set from the very beginning of when i set it about 30 days ago. I was also transparent to everyone that watches me that i honestly think going to events is not worth the monetary investment unless you're already on a team that covers all the costs, but i would go if i met the lofty goal i had set.
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On April 13 2017 08:54 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2017 08:48 Shield wrote:
Just watching avilo's stream to laugh at his crap. It seems his chat guys say that avilo got $2400 but isn't going to Dreamhack. True or false? :D Has he even ever competed for real? I feel like he'll be afraid to go there but I would like to see his results in LAN.
Why would i be afraid to go to a LAN i probably have more LAN experience than a lot of the newer SC2 players lol. I somehow seem to play pretty good at LANs probably because of adrenaline and such and getting pumped.
But again, to be 100% honest unless you're currently sponsored or on a team it is 100% not worth it to travel to events if it is coming out of your own pocket for a game like SC2. The return on investment is likely to be very little to nothing, especially if it's not guaranteed your matches in the open bracket will even be covered on stream.
If this were 2011 and the game is at it's highest point, and there are events galore, etc. it'd be another story. But it's just a huge risk unless you know you're 100000x better than everyone at the event and can survive 99 cheeses in the open bracket.
I'm not saying i wouldn't want to go to this DH or any upcoming events, but unless i get sponsored or on a team it's pretty expensive to get to these events, money-wise and time-wise, so i do not understand why there's people in this thread acting as if everyone has stacks of cash laying around in their house to freely travel across the world everywhere.
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so are you going to Austin or not? Good luck getting sponsored btw.
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Apparently  Scarlett is also not going to Austin now. OP needs some updating
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On April 17 2017 06:49 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Apparently Scarlett is also not going to Austin now. OP needs some updating
Woof. That's a bummer
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Fun fact: TIME just got his visa, the embassy staff that interviewed his visa request is a avid Starcraft player and knows him lol.
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On April 17 2017 06:47 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
so are you going to Austin or not? Good luck getting sponsored btw.
Obviously not. The risk of losing a few hundred bucks is outweighing all the potential short term gain so much that in fact, it is a wonder why anyone would go there at all. lmao, that was so lame.
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On April 19 2017 03:39 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2017 06:47 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
so are you going to Austin or not? Good luck getting sponsored btw. Obviously not. The risk of losing a few hundred bucks is outweighing all the potential short term gain so much that in fact, it is a wonder why anyone would go there at all. lmao, that was so lame.
I'm not sure that's entirely fair. If you're not sponsored, then you have to pay for flights + hotels, and because avilo rightfully isn't certain that he can make through to the paying stages, at which point he would really only be breaking even, then you have to weigh that versus keeping that money and potentially streaming for those days.
I'm not a fan of avilo by any means, but for lower-level GM players who aren't on teams, it is a decent investment to go to a tournament where you might get knocked in the first round, and you have weigh whether it's worth it.
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On April 18 2017 13:47 digmouse wrote:
Fun fact: TIME just got his visa, the embassy staff that interviewed his visa request is a avid Starcraft player and knows him lol.
That's amazing, lol!
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On April 19 2017 04:11 FrkFrJss wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2017 03:39 BaneRiders wrote:On April 17 2017 06:47 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
so are you going to Austin or not? Good luck getting sponsored btw. Obviously not. The risk of losing a few hundred bucks is outweighing all the potential short term gain so much that in fact, it is a wonder why anyone would go there at all. lmao, that was so lame. I'm not sure that's entirely fair. If you're not sponsored, then you have to pay for flights + hotels, and because avilo rightfully isn't certain that he can make through to the paying stages, at which point he would really only be breaking even, then you have to weigh that versus keeping that money and potentially streaming for those days. I'm not a fan of avilo by any means, but for lower-level GM players who aren't on teams, it is a decent investment to go to a tournament where you might get knocked in the first round, and you have weigh whether it's worth it.
Yeah, a number of people will go to a tournament and not make a monetary profit from it, if you sum it up over the few days the event lasts. However, there are other gains to be had when going to a bigger event, such as for example the marketing aspect. There is the possibility of promoting yourself to a much larger group of starcraft fans, potential sponsors etc that you'd normally wouldn't be able to reach that easily. On top of that, this is one of the top 4 tournaments for foreigners this year. This is where you have to be if you want to be someone in SC2 in 2017, especially if you are living on the same continent. (Just don't fly United ffs!!!) At least that is what I think and hence I thought the excuses for not going were lame.
But yeah, if Avilo prefers to stay at home and do his ordinary streaming, then I don't have a problem with that per se. It proves that you can be below the top, not even bother to try to get a placement in a competitive event, and still make a living out of starcraft. And that is pretty nice.
Anyway gl hf either way.
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On April 19 2017 04:22 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2017 13:47 digmouse wrote:
Fun fact: TIME just got his visa, the embassy staff that interviewed his visa request is a avid Starcraft player and knows him lol. That's amazing, lol!
This kind of stuff should happen more!! <3
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On April 18 2017 13:47 digmouse wrote:
Fun fact: TIME just got his visa, the embassy staff that interviewed his visa request is a avid Starcraft player and knows him lol.
Classic China :D
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On April 19 2017 03:39 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2017 06:47 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
so are you going to Austin or not? Good luck getting sponsored btw. Obviously not. The risk of losing a few hundred bucks is outweighing all the potential short term gain so much that in fact, it is a wonder why anyone would go there at all. lmao, that was so lame.
The real reason is he can't blame people at LAN for maphacking and stream sniping. :D
On a serious note, finances makes sense, but I'm sure it's also ego and what I said above. Was avilo ever part of a pro team?
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Katowice25012 Posts
Updated the OP here so it's current, avilo, Scarlett, and JimRising dropped out and we added Toodming and Livibee. In general the news on wcs.dreamhack.com will have this stuff updated more quickly if you need a current list for some reason.
Schedule coming at the end of this week and groups next week!
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Are the heavyhitters still banned for WCS events in 2017? I thought they reformed the whole system again.
From the look of the list it doesnt seem so .
gogo Neeb i guess!
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On April 20 2017 18:55 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Are the heavyhitters still banned for WCS events in 2017? I thought they reformed the whole system again. From the look of the list it doesnt seem so . gogo Neeb i guess!
Well, they did reform the system by basically cutting 60% of the WCS action, while Korea has practically had non-stop top-level price pool action since the beginning of the year... yeah, I'm salty
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