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Elentos
55552 Posts
On March 19 2017 01:09 The_Red_Viper wrote: I don't quite follow this logic tbh. Announcing a remake for an event which is there to celebrate starcraft's 19th birthday isn't that weird? I didn't say it was weird. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Sure but how is it "kicking sc2 in the balls" ? :O | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50207 Posts
On March 19 2017 01:01 Elentos wrote: If they announce BW HD I feel like they show their love for Starcraft 2 by kicking it square in the balls live on stream for thousands of people to see. So not in the best way. Oh really? Want to see the finals of TVing OSL 2012, i bet you'll love that ceremony. | ||
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Piste
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LordOfDabu
United States394 Posts
On March 18 2017 13:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote: no, Brood War took a long time to make and refine. They started working on it right after they finished the WC2 Battle.Net Edition. Then they made Brood War. Then they continued to work on Brood War for another 18 months after its retail release. the center of the company revolved around SC1 and Brood War. SC2 was a low priority passing through the hands of 3 different designers. Pardo was their #1 designer and got moved off of SC2 very early on as the company mainly focused on WoW. Brood War came out before WC2 B.net (over a year before in fact). I'm still bitter that they completely abandoned wc2 after release. I mean they later patched replays to Brood War but not WC2bnet, a later release! | ||
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Piste
6179 Posts
On March 19 2017 01:15 The_Red_Viper wrote: Well, even if it would be "kicking sc2 in the balls", it would be a WAY softer kick than vs broodwar back in the day. Sure but how is it "kicking sc2 in the balls" ? :O | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On March 19 2017 01:01 Elentos wrote: If they announce BW HD I feel like they show their love for Starcraft 2 by kicking it square in the balls live on stream for thousands of people to see. So not in the best way. To be fair, Mike Morhaime kinda did something similar at the final BW OSL by appearing on stream and saying something along the lines of "SC2 is the future" iirc. Maybe they could've done this as a separate event. The legends lineup is plenty to be able to draw in a good audience. | ||
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Elentos
55552 Posts
On March 19 2017 01:52 eviltomahawk wrote: To be fair, Mike Morhaime kinda did something similar at the final BW OSL by appearing on stream and saying something along the lines of "SC2 is the future" iirc. That was terrible too. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16716 Posts
On March 19 2017 01:27 LordOfDabu wrote: Brood War came out before WC2 B.net (over a year before in fact). I'm still bitter that they completely abandoned wc2 after release. I mean they later patched replays to Brood War but not WC2bnet, a later release! true, they started working on SC after the expansion to WC2 was released. well they kept working on WC2 as you noted because they created teh battle.net edition. in the 90s games were not given unending support. you went to the store ; bought the box; that was that. Blizzard offered as much or more support to WC2 and SC1 than other major developers did for their RTS games. What other games coming out in 1995/early-1996 got the kind of support WC2 ending up getting? | ||
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Jealous
10165 Posts
On March 19 2017 00:55 The_Red_Viper wrote: I hope Bisu wins vs Flash so Jaedong actually has a chance to win it all  BvJ in KeSPA: 12-8 FvJ in KeSPA: 25-24 Tfw Bisu is better against Jaedong than Flash. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 19 2017 02:40 Jealous wrote: BvJ in KeSPA: 12-8 FvJ in KeSPA: 25-24 Tfw Bisu is better against Jaedong than Flash. "in kespa", well not all that relevant is it | ||
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LordOfDabu
United States394 Posts
On March 19 2017 02:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote: true, they started working on SC after the expansion to WC2 was released. well they kept working on WC2 as you noted because they created teh battle.net edition. in the 90s games were not given unending support. you went to the store ; bought the box; that was that. Blizzard offered as much or more support to WC2 and SC1 than other major developers did for their RTS games. What other games coming out in 1995/early-1996 got the kind of support WC2 ending up getting? WC2bnet was marketed as a new game (originally called WC2 platinum with a new campaign before they scrapped that if I recall correctly) . It sold at full retail and you couldn't patch to it from your older War2 copies so I classify it as a 99 game. :p It's hard to deny that the game was hard abandoned shortly after release. I realize the market wasn't there (maybe it didn't sell well? I don't know the numbers) so I do understand why a company wouldn't keep supporting it. For what it's worth, other notable non-Blizzard games from that era to get major updates long after release include System Shock 2 and Thief 2. We're going way offtopic so we can continue this by PM if you want; I don't want to clutter this thread with this discussion. | ||
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Jealous
10165 Posts
On March 19 2017 02:51 The_Red_Viper wrote: "in kespa", well not all that relevant is it Lol? These players' peak performance is not relevant? k /backtoignoringyou | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 19 2017 05:48 Jealous wrote: Lol? These players' peak performance is not relevant? k /backtoignoringyou So you actually believe that looking at their head to head record which happened over multiple years is more relevant than recent results / matchup strengths, etc? I don't know the results of march but at least in february Jaedong was at ZvP: 23-7 (76.6%) with a 2-0 vs Bisu while having ZvT: 19-12 (61.2%) with 0-2 over flash. So yes Jaedong is way more likely to beat Bisu than Flash atm. I really didn't think that anyone could actually get triggered by this but hey what do you know, BW fanatics never disappoint. | ||
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lestye
United States4164 Posts
On March 19 2017 01:27 LordOfDabu wrote: Brood War came out before WC2 B.net (over a year before in fact). I'm still bitter that they completely abandoned wc2 after release. I mean they later patched replays to Brood War but not WC2bnet, a later release! I mean, that was kinda typical at the time. I think Starcraft's sucess completely overshadowed Warcraft 2 in more ways than one. Like we know Warcraft 2 sold well, but we dont know if the b.net edition was the most successful thing on the planet, and Starcraft probably looked like a complete juggernaut compared to both. On March 18 2017 17:51 nbaker wrote: I wish the Broodwar event had qualifiers instead of inviting only TBLS, but still excited for the games! Eh, its a 1 night league, its show matches. I think theres been like, 4-5 TLBS showmatces, so I understand that its starting to be become underwhelming, because with SSL, it certainly feels like the scene is becoming TOO much about TLBS.That wouldnt be a problem competitively if they duked it out from qualifiers, but thats not the case. On March 18 2017 19:07 endy wrote: The prize pool for the BW event is ridiculously high for 3 games played. The power of being a billion dollar company :-P | ||
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1707 Posts
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
I <3 starcraft! | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
just wish it was 2x bo3 then a bo5 final. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On March 19 2017 09:48 lestye wrote: Eh, its a 1 night league, its show matches. I think theres been like, 4-5 TLBS showmatces, so I understand that its starting to be become underwhelming, because with SSL, it certainly feels like the scene is becoming TOO much about TLBS.That wouldnt be a problem competitively if they duked it out from qualifiers, but thats not the case. Apparently 3/4 of TBLS don't want to do SSL according to this post. | ||
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