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Subflow
Profile Joined August 2016
52 Posts
February 19 2017 18:44 GMT
#41
how the hell could anybody "aim" for second place... that implies loosing one of his matches on purpose, which is in reality no difference than match-fixing. I doubt ANY progamer would risk, being accused of matchfixing, just to get another opponent.
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-19 20:07:31
February 19 2017 20:03 GMT
#42
how the hell could anybody "aim" for second place... that implies loosing one of his matches on purpose, which is in reality no difference than match-fixing. I doubt ANY progamer would risk, being accused of matchfixing, just to get another opponent.


If a progamer unilaterally decides to lose a match, it is neither matchfixing nor illegal. In Starcraft, matchfixing is when multiple parties conspire to fix the outcome of a competitive match in order to profit financially. The reason it's illegal is because it involves contacting illegal gambling rings for personal gain.

Not to mention, if Maru or anyone else decides that he likes the other side of the bracket better, and secretly makes a few mistakes on purpose, how in the seven hells is somebody supposed to know? Matchfixing accusations are leveled when officials notice suspicious shifts in the betting lines, not as a result of player performance (which is ridiculously and unpredictably variable at best). Without any contact with anyone else, without any financial motive, it's completely impossible to produce evidence of wrongdoing.

Look at ByuN's performance in the Ro32, what Artosis called "the most indecisive thing he'd ever seen." Was ByuN accused of matchfixing? (officially that is, not by salty fans)
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ThunderJunk
Profile Joined December 2015
United States712 Posts
February 19 2017 20:13 GMT
#43
LA CUCARACHA


Guys, we can't let this go. Don't let tastosis stop making La Cucaracha jokes. Please. These jokes keep me going in the day to day.

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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17030 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-19 23:05:08
February 19 2017 23:02 GMT
#44
On February 19 2017 05:28 NonY wrote:
...how he executes things.


On February 19 2017 03:35 NonY wrote:
... will have a better plan prepared.


thx to NonY for some very high signal-to-noise ratio posts providing some good insight for scrubs like me.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 19 2017 23:22 GMT
#45
I trust sOs to embarrass herO in at least a couple of their games, it's his best talent
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
February 19 2017 23:31 GMT
#46
On February 20 2017 03:44 Subflow wrote:
how the hell could anybody "aim" for second place... that implies loosing one of his matches on purpose, which is in reality no difference than match-fixing. I doubt ANY progamer would risk, being accused of matchfixing, just to get another opponent.


To be honest I think a lot of pros have intentionally lost games in group stages in order to get better opponents in the enxt round. It's risky, but can be very good to avoid teamkills/hard opponents. I mean if you are certain you can't beat X in the ro8, you may as well aim for 2nd in your ro16 group for be put somewhere else in the bracket

In certain group stages (the ones where everyone plays everone in the group for points and top 3 get out) it would be stupid for players not to lose certain matches in order to manipulate who else gets out/who they go up against. As long as a player is confident they can get out the group, they should try and help the weaker players also get out (to make the rest of the cup easier)
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
February 20 2017 02:34 GMT
#47
On February 18 2017 21:00 mizenhauer wrote:
Out of curiosity... Do people like the video clips in the recap?


Yes, more of them would be even better!
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
February 20 2017 04:06 GMT
#48
Now the question is, Afreeca stream says Maru and sOs' match will be on Saturday, but TL wiki apparently doesn't agree, so which should we trust?
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
February 20 2017 04:36 GMT
#49
On February 20 2017 13:06 Alarak89 wrote:
Now the question is, Afreeca stream says Maru and sOs' match will be on Saturday, but TL wiki apparently doesn't agree, so which should we trust?

Really? I found this on the afreecatv website though:
[image loading]

2/22 - (T)TY vs (Z)soO @ 18:30 KST
2/22 - (P)Stats vs (T)INnoVation @ 20:30 KST
2/25 - (P)herO vs (P)sOs @13:00 KST
2/25 - (T)Ryung vs (T)Maru @ 15:00 KST
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Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
February 20 2017 04:38 GMT
#50
SoS had a lot of miscontrol moments with his adepts but he still annihilated the Terrans with them. Not sure how that works...
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Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
February 20 2017 04:48 GMT
#51
On February 20 2017 13:36 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2017 13:06 Alarak89 wrote:
Now the question is, Afreeca stream says Maru and sOs' match will be on Saturday, but TL wiki apparently doesn't agree, so which should we trust?

Really? I found this on the afreecatv website though:
[image loading]

2/22 - (T)TY vs (Z)soO @ 18:30 KST
2/22 - (P)Stats vs (T)INnoVation @ 20:30 KST
2/25 - (P)herO vs (P)sOs @13:00 KST
2/25 - (T)Ryung vs (T)Maru @ 15:00 KST

Well, the wiki Ro.8 bracket is at first page of this thread, seems like someone can update it.
I remember usually the upper half bracket will play first like wiki page shows, but maybe they changed it this time.
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-20 05:08:30
February 20 2017 05:03 GMT
#52
Also a fun fact, we could get a team kill final from either Jin Air, KT or SKT since there are two players from each team in different bracket.
But I suppose Jin Air has already locked two Ro.4 spots, whereas KT and SKT have to fight again for the other two spots, just like Proleague playoffs
According to the history, KT will rise to challenge Jin Air as usual, right?
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
February 23 2017 10:21 GMT
#53
On February 20 2017 05:13 ThunderJunk wrote:
LA CUCARACHA


Guys, we can't let this go. Don't let tastosis stop making La Cucaracha jokes. Please. These jokes keep me going in the day to day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHyJvsV-rzw

Ahaha oh man thank you this just saved my morning

Double the reason to catch the ro4 with sOs now, hah my god I love tastosis
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Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
February 23 2017 12:45 GMT
#54
On February 23 2017 19:21 AlgeriaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2017 05:13 ThunderJunk wrote:
LA CUCARACHA


Guys, we can't let this go. Don't let tastosis stop making La Cucaracha jokes. Please. These jokes keep me going in the day to day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHyJvsV-rzw

Ahaha oh man thank you this just saved my morning

Double the reason to catch the ro4 with sOs now, hah my god I love tastosis



lol you bump made me thought ro8 was already done and Maru and sOs qualified.

Enjoy your cucaracha boy, cause herO will put and end to it!
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