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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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Elentos
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But as long as players like Dark, TY and Zest are still teamless our mission isn't complete. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23579 Posts
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Elentos
55583 Posts
On January 27 2017 23:31 Musicus wrote: Congrats, but I really wonder when the big boys will be picked up. Realistically though, how many teams could afford them? ROOT (they already have herO though), dPix, TL, expert, Splyce, Psistorm, mYinsanity could be candidates for names like Dark or Inno. But are they interested? Can they reach agreements? Who knows, right? | ||
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kugHop
Luxembourg44 Posts
The reason he gets picked up and not the big hitters is probably because he is ready to settle for lower wages, probably used to less. (Now I'm not saying this to be mean or discriminate any of my heroes, I just try to come up with explanations) | ||
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Musicus
Germany23579 Posts
On January 27 2017 23:37 Elentos wrote: Realistically though, how many teams could afford them? ROOT (they already have herO though), dPix, TL, expert, Splyce, Psistorm, mYinsanity could be candidates for names like Dark or Inno. But are they interested? Can they reach agreements? Who knows, right? Yeah true, I'm sure they got a lot of offers, but they weren't satisfied since they are used to KT/SKT money. Splyce probably pays enough, but won't be investing in more players for now. | ||
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Elentos
55583 Posts
On January 27 2017 23:39 Musicus wrote: Yeah true, I'm sure they got a lot of offers, but they weren't satisfied since they are used to KT/SKT money. Splyce probably pays enough, but won't be investing in more players for now. Though tbf from what CatZ said about herO's salary at least he doesn't seem like he had unreasonable expectations. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16079 Posts
On January 27 2017 23:39 Musicus wrote: Yeah true, I'm sure they got a lot of offers, but they weren't satisfied since they are used to KT/SKT money. Splyce probably pays enough, but won't be investing in more players for now. but I wonder why those players don't lower their expectations then. I mean, a low salary is still better than no salary at all. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On January 27 2017 23:39 Musicus wrote: Yeah true, I'm sure they got a lot of offers, but they weren't satisfied since they are used to KT/SKT money. Splyce probably pays enough, but won't be investing in more players for now. I think they must understand at some level or another that those days are gone, too. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23579 Posts
On January 27 2017 23:46 intotheheart wrote: I think they must understand at some level or another that those days are gone, too. On January 27 2017 23:46 Charoisaur wrote: but I wonder why those players don't lower their expectations then. I mean, a low salary is still better than no salary at all. I'm sure they will lower their expectations more and more, but for now they are still holding off, in case the biggest offer has not come in yet. I don't think they will be teamless for the rest of the year. Maybe some personal sponsorships too. | ||
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Elentos
55583 Posts
Most of them probably aren't that desperate yet or else they could have probably all joined isIMBA by now  | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
1) these players are retiring soon 2) these players make enough money from tournaments to justify continuing to be a pro (unlikely) 3) they're waiting on better offers 4) they're doing stuff on the side and pushing SC2 to a lower priority | ||
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lechatnoir
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pvsnp
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Others, like Innovation, are making fairly regular money from online tourneys, and can reasonably expect to get a decent payout from big tournaments like GSL/Katowice. | ||
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On January 28 2017 00:02 intotheheart wrote: The thing about winning big tournaments like TY is that TY doesn't have to worry much about money, but there aren't so many of them that you can sustain a living off doing it without some other source of income. Well I think between streaming and tournaments (online ones add up too) it should be sustainable for a decent amount of players. It's kind of weird that teams will invest in random games that get significantly worse viewership than SC2 does though and still completely ignore StarCraft, I assume that a lot of those other games come cheap in comparison to the expectations that StarCraft players have but that certainly isn't always the case. Some of it is probably built on hoping you latch on to the next big thing, which SC2 clearly will never be? You'd think picking up the odd SC player here or there would be worth it though, it's not like you have to fund an entire team or teamhouse. | ||
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
On January 27 2017 23:54 intotheheart wrote: 2) these players make enough money from tournaments to justify continuing to be a pro (unlikely) Dark, TY and Inno make more than enough money from cash prize to live comfortably | ||
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XiZeL
Switzerland92 Posts
On January 27 2017 23:46 Charoisaur wrote: but I wonder why those players don't lower their expectations then. I mean, a low salary is still better than no salary at all. this leads me to believe that the teams must take a share in their tournament earnings, and this must be negotiated in the contract. the big guns must consider they can make more off tournament prize money that the salary offered by these teams. Maybe they are also being motivated by Byun's recent success being teamless. pushing them to have results to survive as opposed to being in their comfort zone with a salary. my 2 cents | ||
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
On January 27 2017 23:45 Elentos wrote: Though tbf from what CatZ said about herO's salary at least he doesn't seem like he had unreasonable expectations. What did CatZ say about herO's salary? I'm curious. | ||
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verecunda
Korea (South)121 Posts
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rotta
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Elentos
55583 Posts
On January 28 2017 01:15 Vutalisk wrote: What did CatZ say about herO's salary? I'm curious. His base salary is 500$ per month plus 100$ in incentives. Plus the things that come with being on a team, you know, travel support, staying at the ROOT house if he wants to, that stuff. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On January 28 2017 03:50 Elentos wrote: His base salary is 500$ per month plus 100$ in incentives. Plus the things that come with being on a team, you know, travel support, staying at the ROOT house if he wants to, that stuff. That's only 1/130 the salary of TL's jungler :p | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
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Revolution_GG
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-Peace Rezwan 'Jehuty' Mostofa Team Revolution director | ||
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Elentos
55583 Posts
On January 28 2017 08:08 Revolution_GG wrote: Appreciate the nice comments, I'm sorry we couldn't pick up some of the monsters that are still on the market, It's very much true that the salary expectations is beyond capable for a grass roots eSports team in EU like us. I think this will change over time, however in the meantime I hope you can support the players both on a team or without. I hope you liked the jjakji intro video and watch his stream for a pimped out Team RevolutioN design! -Peace Rezwan 'Jehuty' Mostofa Team Revolution director I'm sorry but you baneling busted me on ladder the other day so I can't support your team | ||
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AKAvg
Brazil298 Posts
On January 28 2017 08:11 Elentos wrote: I'm sorry but you baneling busted me on ladder the other day so I can't support your team Oh, the salt  | ||
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Elentos
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Nah, 0 salt. It was a Palamemo Terminal game after all. | ||
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Wallenberg
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Vutalisk
United States680 Posts
On January 28 2017 03:50 Elentos wrote: His base salary is 500$ per month plus 100$ in incentives. Plus the things that come with being on a team, you know, travel support, staying at the ROOT house if he wants to, that stuff. Hey, Thanks for the information. Good to know. | ||
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Sharkken
Jordan141 Posts
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