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klimuszko
Profile Joined January 2016
24 Posts
December 07 2016 14:00 GMT
#61
On December 07 2016 22:27 KadaverBB wrote:
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On December 07 2016 21:32 klimuszko wrote:
Wow. Featured topic about mediocre player who won actually nothing, achieved barely something in sc2. Guess being in liquid back in the day still gets you some profits.

Another vortix imo, will come, get ass kicked few times, back to retirement.


Yeah wow. Someone who was/is super important to the Starcraft scene is coming back to maybe give it another shot, that's totally not news worthy.


What makes him super important to the scene? Genuine question as I'm very interested in finding out.

207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
December 07 2016 14:07 GMT
#62
On December 07 2016 23:00 klimuszko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 22:27 KadaverBB wrote:
On December 07 2016 21:32 klimuszko wrote:
Wow. Featured topic about mediocre player who won actually nothing, achieved barely something in sc2. Guess being in liquid back in the day still gets you some profits.

Another vortix imo, will come, get ass kicked few times, back to retirement.


Yeah wow. Someone who was/is super important to the Starcraft scene is coming back to maybe give it another shot, that's totally not news worthy.


What makes him super important to the scene? Genuine question as I'm very interested in finding out.



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klimuszko
Profile Joined January 2016
24 Posts
December 07 2016 14:12 GMT
#63
Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement.
VHbb
Profile Joined October 2014
692 Posts
December 07 2016 14:14 GMT
#64
On December 07 2016 23:12 klimuszko wrote:
Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement.


Please just leave this thread, why do you feel the need to ruin a genuine good moment? If you don't like it, just don't open the thread and avoid comments..
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klimuszko
Profile Joined January 2016
24 Posts
December 07 2016 14:17 GMT
#65
Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back.

I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic.
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
December 07 2016 14:19 GMT
#66
On December 07 2016 23:12 klimuszko wrote:
Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement.


A better way to think about it is that he was the best non-Korean player for a while, during a pretty competitive time (IdrA, SEn, Jian Fei, Mondragon etc).
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
December 07 2016 14:21 GMT
#67
On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote:
Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back.

I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic.


I understand the point that you're trying to make with respect to his lacking SC2 career. The reason people are as respectful and potentially excited when it comes to NonY, is that he looked more impressive in BW than any SC2 foreigner has looked in SC2.

It's impossible to tell whether determination alone will allow him to reach the same level in this game, but the potential is there.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18776 Posts
December 07 2016 14:22 GMT
#68
On December 07 2016 23:19 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 23:12 klimuszko wrote:
Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement.


A better way to think about it is that he was the best non-Korean player for a while, during a pretty competitive time (IdrA, SEn, Jian Fei, Mondragon etc).


Wasn't some Chinese the best non Korean player?
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 14:25:31
December 07 2016 14:25 GMT
#69
On December 07 2016 23:22 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2016 23:19 207aicila wrote:
On December 07 2016 23:12 klimuszko wrote:
Oh dear God, he won a tournament in 2009. That's superduper important, thank God game didn't collapse while he was in the retirement.


A better way to think about it is that he was the best non-Korean player for a while, during a pretty competitive time (IdrA, SEn, Jian Fei, Mondragon etc).


Wasn't some Chinese the best non Korean player?


F91 did amazing in Liquibition in head to head showmatches against those top western dudes, but then failed to deliver in pretty much every subsequent "big" / "real" tournament. So it's hard to say.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
December 07 2016 14:28 GMT
#70
Nony Hwaitinggggg!!
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craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
December 07 2016 14:37 GMT
#71
On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote:
Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back.

I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic.

He was one of the best foreigners in the BW scene, is a former member of the TL pro team, is an active poster on the forums and seems like an all around good guy. That's reason enough to feature the thread, despite his lack of results in SC2.
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
December 07 2016 14:38 GMT
#72
On December 07 2016 21:32 klimuszko wrote:
Wow. Featured topic about mediocre player who won actually nothing, achieved barely something in sc2. Guess being in liquid back in the day still gets you some profits.

Another vortix imo, will come, get ass kicked few times, back to retirement.

you may be completely right about what will happen with his career. hell, you probably are. personally i'm not even much of a fan of nony based on the way i've seen him post on the forums.

but i have to ask: what exactly are you contributing by making this post? do you feel smart? do you want nony to feel bad about himself for playing the game? do you feel entitled to something here? i just don't get what you're going for here. just feel like making people listen to you?
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18050 Posts
December 07 2016 14:43 GMT
#73
people can trash the guy's SC2 career if they want... however, his feedback to Blizzard about game balance and mechanics changes is top notch.

having an additional voice of reason.. having a guy who can see the forest through the trees while providing feedback to Blizz ... is all good stuff.
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aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-07 14:47:14
December 07 2016 14:43 GMT
#74
On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote:
Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back.

I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic.

Your idiotic logic (why play if you are not the best?) is in effect in the scene at the moment - only bunch of best players left with little to no lower level ambitious players.

If you don't care then why even read this topic? And yes, I'd personally be happy if Naama started playing again, Tarson can play again too, as well as dozens of others
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smilingjuggernaut
Profile Joined November 2016
74 Posts
December 07 2016 14:44 GMT
#75
best of luck ~
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
December 07 2016 15:10 GMT
#76
On December 07 2016 23:17 klimuszko wrote:
Why should I leave this topic? It's just funny that he achieved/did nothing in sc2 and yet u all behave like some kind of god is coming back.

I guess if fe Naama returns there is gonna be a topic also? After all he won the first dh, so he is entitled to it following tl logic.


I'm just saying that you are being overly negative about this thing. Nony returning is pretty cool for some of the community, so we put it in community news, that's all. It's not like we have 45 interviews and 37 photoshoots lined up.
Some of us are excited, if you are not, that's totally fine, but you don't have to be a debbie downer either!
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OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
December 07 2016 15:18 GMT
#77
Welcome back. Best of luck to you.
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Daigoro
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany251 Posts
December 07 2016 16:22 GMT
#78
Good Luck good sir!
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
December 07 2016 16:27 GMT
#79
<3 ronin online <3
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FrostbitethundeR
Profile Joined April 2015
Malaysia28 Posts
December 07 2016 16:31 GMT
#80
Holy this is such a great news for the community !
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