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Starcraft II Updates from BlizzCon

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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
November 04 2016 19:50 GMT
#1
Blizzard has announced the following updates for Starcraft II in an official press release from BlizzCon:


War Chest

War Chest is the name of a new series of seasonal content for StarCraft II. Players who take part in the War Chest will be presented with an unlockable star map. As they gain experience points through playing StarCraft II ladder matches or cooperative missions online, players can use those points to open up different pathways through the map, which will unlock fun bits of story and lore, as well as exclusive digital content including unit skins, portraits, decals, and emojis.

Players gain access to each season of the War Chest by paying a nominal fee. Proceeds from each season will go into funding the StarCraft II World Championship Series (WCS).


Co-op updates

Since the feature debuted with the launch of Legacy of the Void, cooperative missions have become a very popular game mode in StarCraft II. More exciting content is coming for cooperative in the coming months.

A new commander, Stukov, is based on a popular infested Terran character from both the original StarCraft and StarCraft II campaigns. Stukov’s base will consist of Infested Terran structures that constantly spawn infested units. This will make his gameplay style markedly different from other commanders.

A pair of new cooperative missions will also release soon. Miner Evacuation will task players with escorting civilians off of a dangerous planet. Dark of Night is based off a popular Arcade mission called Left2Die, where countless waves of infested are sent to overwhelm the players.

Another new feature coming soon to cooperative missions will be leaderboards. All cooperative games will be scored, and the best scores will be posted online for other players to try and beat.


Nova Covert Ops

The final three missions to Nova Covert Ops will release soon, bringing a thrilling conclusion to the downloadable campaign that kicked off earlier this year.


Multiplayer update

A comprehensive set of multiplayer design changes is coming to StarCraft II shortly after BlizzCon. The changes have been in public testing for the last couple of months. Terran changes will allow for more viable mech play with a full overhaul of the Cyclone and Siege Tank, with the latter being given a big damage buff in exchange for the removal of its ability to be picked up and dropped off by Medivacs while in siege mode. Zerg changes include a range and speed buff for the Hydralisk as well as a Baneling health buff. Protoss adjustments include a new ability for the Tempest, which serves as a tool for zoning and area denial, a speed increase for Zealots, and blink for Dark Templar.

The changes are intended not just to shake up the metagame for competitive StarCraft II—the hope is to increase overall strategic diversity and bring the game to a state where the meta can evolve in a healthy way on its own. For a full list of changes, check the StarCraft II website: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20241474/legacy-of-the-void-multiplayer-design-changes-8-14-2016

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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 04 2016 19:53 GMT
#2
Warchests sound awesome and a leader board for Co-op is also a great idea!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Aleteh
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark166 Posts
November 04 2016 19:54 GMT
#3
Imagine if these War Chests happened in the end of 2012. Lets hope it will breath some renewed life into the game
The Tyrant
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 04 2016 19:59 GMT
#4
Would be cool if co-op could trickle into 2v2
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 04 2016 20:00 GMT
#5
On November 05 2016 04:59 y0su wrote:
Would be cool if co-op could trickle into 2v2

Oh goodness, it would be a nightmare to balance all those commanders
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24211 Posts
November 04 2016 20:02 GMT
#6
god thought blink DTs had been scraped long ago.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13980 Posts
November 04 2016 20:28 GMT
#7
On November 05 2016 05:00 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 04:59 y0su wrote:
Would be cool if co-op could trickle into 2v2

Oh goodness, it would be a nightmare to balance all those commanders

who needs balance when everyone will player either alarak or stukov
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True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3425 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 20:41:16
November 04 2016 20:40 GMT
#8
<wrong thread>
Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
November 04 2016 21:04 GMT
#9
Warchest sound like it could be good, but paying for it each season is quite discouraging. Having fun in games doesn't seem as an objective, rather a way to get your skins after you paid. I would prefer free and no skins.
FraWz!
Profile Joined January 2015
3 Posts
November 04 2016 21:05 GMT
#10
Source? for "as well as exclusive digital content including unit skins, portraits, decals, and emojis. " in War Chest
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 21:23:29
November 04 2016 21:21 GMT
#11
On November 05 2016 06:05 FraWz! wrote:
Source? for "as well as exclusive digital content including unit skins, portraits, decals, and emojis. " in War Chest


Here you go

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20352111/blizzcon-recap-foundation-for-the-future-11-4-2016

I'm just sad that it will take so long again "more details in the first half of 2017", so releasing warchests will take around 8 months or so I think.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Darkness2k11
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Chile313 Posts
November 04 2016 21:25 GMT
#12
Super excited for the War Chest!!!
When Behind, Dark Shrine
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
November 04 2016 21:29 GMT
#13
The war chest sounds difficult to sell with that information alone - I hope it becomes a cool feature and not a kind of collection of alms from the congregation. Paying for emojis? In SC2? No, certainly not. I rather put moneys on SC2 content such as Stukov. Now that sounds like a cool commander! Dark of night sounds great too, I loved Left2Die! <3
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
November 04 2016 21:35 GMT
#14
Sounds really cool, I feel it will be somehow similar to adventure mode in D3 in a way. Aside from that, the article on the bottom states that they are working on a "watch" tab on the main menu, so probably some sort of spectator mode and/or in-game stream options are coming sometime in the future
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xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
November 04 2016 21:46 GMT
#15
this is awesome!!!!
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 21:53:45
November 04 2016 21:53 GMT
#16
Wrong thread.
FraWz!
Profile Joined January 2015
3 Posts
November 04 2016 22:15 GMT
#17
On November 05 2016 06:21 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 06:05 FraWz! wrote:
Source? for "as well as exclusive digital content including unit skins, portraits, decals, and emojis. " in War Chest


Here you go

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20352111/blizzcon-recap-foundation-for-the-future-11-4-2016

I'm just sad that it will take so long again "more details in the first half of 2017", so releasing warchests will take around 8 months or so I think.


ok i see . i do see in game content but it doesnt really specify what type of content but i guess its safe to asume
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 04 2016 22:19 GMT
#18
On November 05 2016 07:15 FraWz! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 06:21 Musicus wrote:
On November 05 2016 06:05 FraWz! wrote:
Source? for "as well as exclusive digital content including unit skins, portraits, decals, and emojis. " in War Chest


Here you go

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20352111/blizzcon-recap-foundation-for-the-future-11-4-2016

I'm just sad that it will take so long again "more details in the first half of 2017", so releasing warchests will take around 8 months or so I think.


ok i see . i do see in game content but it doesnt really specify what type of content but i guess its safe to asume


Hm, not sure if it's all, but the it specifies some things.

"We’ll have new faction-specific skins for each race—the brutal Tal’darim, Primal Zerg, and the Terran mercenaries, for example. We also plan on releasing new digital comics with each new War Chest season. The three comics will involve each of the races and you’ll be able to read them directly within StarCraft II. New command console skins will also be offered as a reward."
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Adept
Profile Joined December 2009
United States472 Posts
November 04 2016 22:22 GMT
#19
Sweeet, can't wait for this!
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sdnnvs
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil33 Posts
November 04 2016 22:34 GMT
#20
I'm curious about Deepmind...
saltis
Profile Joined September 2012
159 Posts
November 04 2016 22:56 GMT
#21
So basically Team Games will be completely unplayable due to Carrier buff (it's already the biggest cancer in team games) and DTs. But hey, who cares about team games, the chosen ones aka pros don't play it anyway.
TwiggyWan
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
France330 Posts
November 04 2016 22:56 GMT
#22
Players gain access to each season of the War Chest by paying a nominal fee.


Hahaha nice try! I must pay THEN grind to get items, right Blizzard D:
No bad days
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4178 Posts
November 04 2016 23:00 GMT
#23
On November 05 2016 07:56 TwiggyWan wrote:
Show nested quote +
Players gain access to each season of the War Chest by paying a nominal fee.


Hahaha nice try! I must pay THEN grind to get items, right Blizzard D:

It's a good idea. That's what the Compendium does. As long as the items give you really good value for your buck, I think it's good.
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aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 23:07:07
November 04 2016 23:04 GMT
#24
On November 05 2016 07:56 TwiggyWan wrote:
Show nested quote +
Players gain access to each season of the War Chest by paying a nominal fee.


Hahaha nice try! I must pay THEN grind to get items, right Blizzard D:

I imagine that if you play any game you play it always for minimal possible pay expecting neverending stream of content for free, this stuff is good alone for the fact that proceeds will go for WCS support. Paying for a game where you play it and get rewards? Unthinkable. No word about WCS so far though

You can ignore it
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 23:15:48
November 04 2016 23:12 GMT
#25
Btw, something that might've been missed by most.

Blizzard mentions the "watch" tab and custom tournaments at the bottom here:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20352111/blizzcon-recap-foundation-for-the-future-11-4-2016

"Everything we’ve discussed today is what’s most far along from a design standpoint, but it’s not everything we have planned for the future of StarCraft II. New Arcade features, Custom Tournaments, a “Watch” tab, and more are on our roadmap. We’ve had a great year, and we look forward to bringing you even more great content in the future."
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
November 04 2016 23:22 GMT
#26
On November 05 2016 08:12 Musicus wrote:
Btw, something that might've been missed by most.

Blizzard mentions the "watch" tab and custom tournaments at the bottom here:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20352111/blizzcon-recap-foundation-for-the-future-11-4-2016

"Everything we’ve discussed today is what’s most far along from a design standpoint, but it’s not everything we have planned for the future of StarCraft II. New Arcade features, Custom Tournaments, a “Watch” tab, and more are on our roadmap. We’ve had a great year, and we look forward to bringing you even more great content in the future."


We’ve had a great year, and we look forward to bringing you even more great content in the future.


Yeah, sure. Disbanding core teams in Korea is a great year.
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 23:31:52
November 04 2016 23:24 GMT
#27
On November 05 2016 08:22 Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 08:12 Musicus wrote:
Btw, something that might've been missed by most.

Blizzard mentions the "watch" tab and custom tournaments at the bottom here:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20352111/blizzcon-recap-foundation-for-the-future-11-4-2016

"Everything we’ve discussed today is what’s most far along from a design standpoint, but it’s not everything we have planned for the future of StarCraft II. New Arcade features, Custom Tournaments, a “Watch” tab, and more are on our roadmap. We’ve had a great year, and we look forward to bringing you even more great content in the future."


Show nested quote +
We’ve had a great year, and we look forward to bringing you even more great content in the future.


Yeah, sure. Disbanding core teams in Korea is a great year.

Looking at the game itself as a whole, which is the point of this thread, it was a good year to be honest.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 04 2016 23:39 GMT
#28
On November 05 2016 08:00 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 07:56 TwiggyWan wrote:
Players gain access to each season of the War Chest by paying a nominal fee.


Hahaha nice try! I must pay THEN grind to get items, right Blizzard D:

It's a good idea. That's what the Compendium does. As long as the items give you really good value for your buck, I think it's good.

Yeah.. that's what has me worried. The portrait pack for Blizzcon coming after Blizzcon. Lately there's been a string of "Well it was close" stuff from Blizzard. I hope they do well with this.
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horrypotter
Profile Joined September 2016
11 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 23:40:09
November 04 2016 23:39 GMT
#29

Looking at the game itself as a whole, which is the point of this thread, it was a good year to be honest.


He want to say best year for SC2 is 2010. So many players, so many team created...etc
xTJx
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil419 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 23:44:01
November 04 2016 23:43 GMT
#30
These changes don't matter, just rush the Broodwar remastering so we can transition and make RTS popular again.
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paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
November 04 2016 23:45 GMT
#31
On November 05 2016 08:24 aQuaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 08:22 Shield wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:12 Musicus wrote:
Btw, something that might've been missed by most.

Blizzard mentions the "watch" tab and custom tournaments at the bottom here:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20352111/blizzcon-recap-foundation-for-the-future-11-4-2016

"Everything we’ve discussed today is what’s most far along from a design standpoint, but it’s not everything we have planned for the future of StarCraft II. New Arcade features, Custom Tournaments, a “Watch” tab, and more are on our roadmap. We’ve had a great year, and we look forward to bringing you even more great content in the future."


We’ve had a great year, and we look forward to bringing you even more great content in the future.


Yeah, sure. Disbanding core teams in Korea is a great year.

Looking at the game itself as a whole, which is the point of this thread, it was a good year to be honest.

This is by far the best year for SC2 game content. It's not even close.
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-04 23:53:25
November 04 2016 23:51 GMT
#32
On November 05 2016 08:43 xTJx wrote:
These changes don't matter, just rush the Broodwar remastering so we can transition and make RTS popular again.

Or Blizzard needs to become one with Activision and release nearly identical game every year, so hype-riders would be like kept on a leash
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
November 05 2016 00:07 GMT
#33
mutiplayer panel gosh...
Zest fanboy.
saalih416
Profile Joined April 2016
19 Posts
November 05 2016 00:20 GMT
#34
Wake me up if there's anything about StarCraft HD please and thank you.
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
November 05 2016 00:29 GMT
#35
On November 05 2016 09:20 saalih416 wrote:
Wake me up if there's anything about StarCraft HD please and thank you.

omg good night
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paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
November 05 2016 00:31 GMT
#36
Anyone have info from the co-op talk?
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
November 05 2016 00:33 GMT
#37
Warchests? Looks like CS:GO Operations...

Well as Valve reduced the amount of operations drastically in the last 2 years... fitting.
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aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
November 05 2016 00:34 GMT
#38
On November 05 2016 09:31 paralleluniverse wrote:
Anyone have info from the co-op talk?

I think it'll be hard to get since it was not on stream, but maybe somebody will talk post something about it later
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207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
November 05 2016 00:44 GMT
#39
On November 05 2016 04:54 Aleteh wrote:
Imagine if these War Chests happened in the end of 2012. Lets hope it will breath some renewed life into the game


End of 2012? You mean by the time BL Infestor had already whittled down the 5 million WoL accounts to only 200k active?
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
November 05 2016 00:46 GMT
#40
Last question from Q&A was kinda interesting. Temp0 asked about their patch philoshopy

tl;dw:

And Temp0 asks the first good question: "Do you want to shake things up after WCS, or do you want to do it every once in a while?"
Answer sounds like they want to do smaller changes throughout the year and design-changing patches like once per year.


Follow-up: Will they revert patches if they turn out to be bad or go through with it all the time?
Answer: Watching patch very closely, they will be careful and they will make changes as needed. Showmatches from totalbiscuit will be important. David kim hopes they will find broken stuff there, so that they can fix them before they go live.

Temp0 to the rescue
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 05 2016 00:46 GMT
#41
On November 05 2016 09:44 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 04:54 Aleteh wrote:
Imagine if these War Chests happened in the end of 2012. Lets hope it will breath some renewed life into the game


End of 2012? You mean by the time BL Infestor had already whittled down the 5 million WoL accounts to only 200k active?

To be fair that's standard for almost any game and the meta could have been anything.
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StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
November 05 2016 01:03 GMT
#42
Any news about BW HD? Or at least 2017 BW commitment from blizzard?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-05 01:56:34
November 05 2016 01:56 GMT
#43
On November 05 2016 08:24 aQuaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2016 08:22 Shield wrote:
On November 05 2016 08:12 Musicus wrote:
Btw, something that might've been missed by most.

Blizzard mentions the "watch" tab and custom tournaments at the bottom here:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/20352111/blizzcon-recap-foundation-for-the-future-11-4-2016

"Everything we’ve discussed today is what’s most far along from a design standpoint, but it’s not everything we have planned for the future of StarCraft II. New Arcade features, Custom Tournaments, a “Watch” tab, and more are on our roadmap. We’ve had a great year, and we look forward to bringing you even more great content in the future."


We’ve had a great year, and we look forward to bringing you even more great content in the future.


Yeah, sure. Disbanding core teams in Korea is a great year.

Looking at the game itself as a whole, which is the point of this thread, it was a good year to be honest.


.
Zest fanboy.
NeonGenesis
Profile Joined September 2005
Norway260 Posts
November 05 2016 11:13 GMT
#44
Did they comment at all on whether the Nova missions have been a success (commercially or otherwise), and whether they are interested in continuing to develop the starcraft universe by means of mission packs?
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Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-05 11:35:40
November 05 2016 11:27 GMT
#45
meh
*burp*
misterxy1994
Profile Joined July 2013
Germany53 Posts
November 05 2016 11:39 GMT
#46
nice !
evolsiefil
Profile Joined October 2015
143 Posts
November 05 2016 11:49 GMT
#47
So Not a single Word about the Future of korean sc2? well thats disappointing. I was hoping theyd remove the Region lock and / or Sponsor an additional kr tourney now that pl is gone. rip korea id say.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
November 05 2016 11:52 GMT
#48
The most underwhelming blizzcon in a very long time. No new game/expansions announcements. BW HD - nope. SC2 f2p multiplayer - nope. Diablo 4, Warcraft 4 - rofl.
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PharaphobiaSC
Profile Joined April 2016
Czech Republic457 Posts
November 05 2016 12:37 GMT
#49
On November 05 2016 20:52 disciple wrote:
The most underwhelming blizzcon in a very long time. No new game/expansions announcements. BW HD - nope. SC2 f2p multiplayer - nope. Diablo 4, Warcraft 4 - rofl.


What gives your rights to dictate blizzard when to release games?
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BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
November 05 2016 12:42 GMT
#50
On November 05 2016 20:52 disciple wrote:
The most underwhelming blizzcon in a very long time. No new game/expansions announcements. BW HD - nope. SC2 f2p multiplayer - nope. Diablo 4, Warcraft 4 - rofl.


I mean, with the starter edition sc2 is already f2p for the most part, just cant play the campaign or ranked.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28484 Posts
November 05 2016 12:42 GMT
#51
On November 05 2016 20:52 disciple wrote:
The most underwhelming blizzcon in a very long time. No new game/expansions announcements. BW HD - nope. SC2 f2p multiplayer - nope. Diablo 4, Warcraft 4 - rofl.

Agree, although Diablo 4 would've been strange. I expected a Diablo 3 expansion though (on top of the new class).
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4135 Posts
November 05 2016 12:48 GMT
#52
All those super super super high expectations came only from communities. Blame your community that they confused your mind very succesfully, especially diablo3 community.
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KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-05 12:53:03
November 05 2016 12:52 GMT
#53
A huge chunk of the industry is moving away from regular game releases and instead moves on towards games as a (long term) service, and Blizzard is leading in this.

So it's not unreasonable that they don't release WarCraft 4 or Diablo 4 when they have two games that already fill both of their niches.
Lillekanin
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark192 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-05 16:34:58
November 05 2016 16:34 GMT
#54
Does anyone know how "soon" the changes will go live?
Because they mentioned: " Shortly after blizzcon " and "the upcomming weeks" .
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ivancype
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil485 Posts
November 05 2016 17:57 GMT
#55
lol Now we might have SC BW AI Developer elitists
The other race is OP
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 05 2016 18:00 GMT
#56
On November 05 2016 21:42 Penev wrote:
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On November 05 2016 20:52 disciple wrote:
The most underwhelming blizzcon in a very long time. No new game/expansions announcements. BW HD - nope. SC2 f2p multiplayer - nope. Diablo 4, Warcraft 4 - rofl.

Agree, although Diablo 4 would've been strange. I expected a Diablo 3 expansion though (on top of the new class).

I think most people speculate that most of the new Diablo 3 content like the Necromancer class and the free new zones that they've added and will add are all likely content from a cancelled expansion pack.

Diablo 4 is likely being made based on Blizzard's recent hiring posts, but it's probably too early in pre-production to be publicly unveiled.
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Liquid`Snute
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Norway839 Posts
November 05 2016 18:06 GMT
#57
On November 05 2016 07:56 saltis wrote:
So basically Team Games will be completely unplayable due to Carrier buff (it's already the biggest cancer in team games) and DTs. But hey, who cares about team games, the chosen ones aka pros don't play it anyway.

pretty sure most pros think carriers at 200/200 and protoss skytoss (once you actually successfully reach it) is ridicilous
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4178 Posts
November 05 2016 18:10 GMT
#58
On November 05 2016 20:52 disciple wrote:
The most underwhelming blizzcon in a very long time. No new game/expansions announcements. BW HD - nope. SC2 f2p multiplayer - nope. Diablo 4, Warcraft 4 - rofl.

I mean. Realistically we're not "due" for one, as much as people were super excited for.

RoS "only" came out in 2014, LOTV came out in 2015 (RTS team who would work on WC4 would only be "free" then, WoW's last expansion just came out in 2016.

The only game that can spit out expansions fast is like Hearthstone & WoW.

I think we're in that era of like 2002-2007, where not many if nothing big and new gets announced besides WoW and Hearthstone expansions.
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Little-Chimp
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada948 Posts
November 05 2016 18:16 GMT
#59
On November 05 2016 20:52 disciple wrote:
The most underwhelming blizzcon in a very long time. No new game/expansions announcements. BW HD - nope. SC2 f2p multiplayer - nope. Diablo 4, Warcraft 4 - rofl.


It's not over yet?
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4178 Posts
November 05 2016 18:58 GMT
#60
On November 06 2016 03:16 Little-Chimp wrote:
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On November 05 2016 20:52 disciple wrote:
The most underwhelming blizzcon in a very long time. No new game/expansions announcements. BW HD - nope. SC2 f2p multiplayer - nope. Diablo 4, Warcraft 4 - rofl.


It's not over yet?

There's no way in hell they wouldn't announce a big game like that if it wasnt in the opening ceremony.
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straycat
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
230 Posts
November 07 2016 10:11 GMT
#61
Hmm. I thought tankivacs were pretty rad. Will be sad to see them go.
aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-07 10:30:25
November 07 2016 10:29 GMT
#62
On November 07 2016 19:11 straycat wrote:
Hmm. I thought tankivacs were pretty rad. Will be sad to see them go.

Feedback especially from unnamed Koreans disagrees, dealing with it was and is (although less than before in my opinion, people learned more to play around it) one of the parts of the game being daunting and "hard" for the entire range of skill levels which drove people away from the game, if it ends up pretty badly especially with Ravagers existing they potentially can do something about it still once a significant set of pros starts to play with it and find what can be abused and what not.
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
November 10 2016 07:50 GMT
#63
I want another mission set like Nova Covert Ops. I really enjoyed it. The single player of SC2 is always very fun and interesting for me. I stopped playing multi-player a while back, but Nova CovertOps and CoOp has brought me back to the game.
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