Community Feedback Update: No auto-cast larva - Page 2

On October 07 2016 08:04 Victory1 wrote:
I don't know why so many people are against auto casting larva. As a zerg player, the most fun I have had playing sc2 was when larva was auto-injected. There is so much more time to focus on macro, micro and tasks that generally provide impact to the game, not a mundane click on a hatchery that is required or the race cannot be played.

Zerg already has the most difficult macro in the game due to having more bases than the other races, and constantly having to deal with harass on an expanded front. If really necessary, there are also many other ways to make zerg's macro feel a little more difficult.

1.increase base larva spawn on the hatchery, and give queen an ability with a large cooldown to further increase the spawn rate. Or just simply increase the time between each cycle so that zerg's have more time in between to focus on other tasks.
-this will keep the larva mechanic in play, but not force zerg to inject as many cycles per game.
2.Use the auto-cast larva mechanic, but change creep tumors so that they spread much less creep, and have a slightly shorter cooldown.
-this will require the zerg to focus much more attention to spreading creep, which will generally feel more impactful then spawning larva.

These are just two ideas that I came up with that will generally add more fun to the zerg race, and all of its matchups. I have played starcraft and visited this website for over 8 years and I have just now created this account in order to make this post, that is how strongly I feel about this issue. I don't think I am the only one who feels this way, but if the majority of zergs like spawning larva aimlessly every game, then the ability should obviously not be removed. However, I cannot take those arguing that they have spend years "mastering" this mechanic seriously because this mechanic is very simple, it can be mastered in a very short amount of time, and on top of all, we have had to adapt to much larger changes since SC2's inception.

Cheers.

I love how they state that there's "any alarming issues brought up" while tempest cheeses are horribly game breaking in TvP.

Also TvT is a campfest because there is no ground mech AA. Air domination is only based on raven/vikings, which means that liberators in turn give ground domination. So everyone camps into an air deathball the moment they have a third, and there is nothing the opponent can do about it but mass an air deathball himself.
Good AA on the cyclone (possible an upgrade) would solve that.

Also about protoss, why is the overcharge still in the game? If we're going for design changes, seems like PO is the very first fucking thing to look at.

On October 07 2016 07:59 Shuffleblade wrote:

Regarding the proposed staler change I feel it makes the stalker too powerful for being so readily available. Seems what you propose is stalkers become the protoss hydralisk which should mean that you would need to tech to get it, and with tech I don't mean just a ccore but for example a twilight. This would make protoss extremely weak to air pressure if they can't get anything but sentry and overcharge that shoots up until twilight is done. Seems hard to balance out.

On October 07 2016 16:40 StorM_Sweden wrote:
We’ve tested the Stalker change, and feel that it does make Protoss compositions a bit more all-around and Stalker-based. While this might not necessarily be bad, but we’d like to hold off on this change unless it’s absolutely needed We don’t want to lose focus on the goal of seeing a strong diversity of gateway units being used, and we would like to get more feedback around the Zealot changes before pursuing other directions.

what have i missed, please fill me in guys?

we still believe that slightly toning up the Disruptor (without buffing it much in PvP) could be a strong direction.

On October 07 2016 13:29 PEPE!! wrote:


I personally agree that removing the inject mechanic were the funnest time to play zerg. It is required that you build a queen every time. Don't think any other caster is forced like that. Also, if queens weren't required, we could probably see some cool early tech builds that could pressure outside of roach / bane busts. Increase larva spawn rate and remove inject GO!.

On October 08 2016 00:26 SCHWARZENEGGER wrote:
fix fucking immortal nydus already which with 8 armor ultra synergy makes late tvz an autolose

On October 07 2016 20:27 Gwavajuice wrote:


You'll probably want queens anyway for early game defense, I mean : you only need 3 queens to inject, so if people makes 8 to 9 it must mean inject is not the only thing they do, doesn't it?


Back on the subject, yes auto inject might have been more fun for you but only because your mechanics are not good enough to inject creap spread and micro units at the same time, which is the case of 99% of the population, but it's fine because the whole point is to make the game mechanically demanding so separate normal players from true skilled players.

I don't think anybody wants random low tier players to be able to beat the top tier players, each time it happened, we used "patch zerg" or "patch protoss" or "patch terran" to describe these people, and most importantly when game got fixed these players disappeared while the true kings remained.

Autoinject would make average player closer in skill from the top players, and they'll like it at first, but I do not think it would be god for the game in the long run.

On October 08 2016 03:00 xTJx wrote:
Buffing the disruptor will make zerg useless until late game tech, haven't you learned anything with lotv ZvT?

On October 08 2016 01:56 Anvil666 wrote:


So youre saying that we should keep a mechanic in the game that is broing and repetitive for 99% of the people just to keep the game hard enough for the "true kings", about 200 players max? That is just mindless TL-elitism in its purest form haha! If its boring, it needs to go, end of discussion.
I'm also in favor of adding autocast or removing the whole thing outright. Obviously there needs to be some form of compensation for it, like the proposed nerf to creep spread. Just keeping it in because people got used to it is stupid.