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zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
September 18 2016 02:18 GMT
#21
How much more do the Koreans actually practice than foreigners? I'm curious what the general impression is.
RichardNPL
Profile Joined November 2015
185 Posts
September 18 2016 06:08 GMT
#22
Good luck MarineLord! Let's practice hard!
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-18 10:39:45
September 18 2016 10:32 GMT
#23
On September 18 2016 11:18 zealotstim wrote:
How much more do the Koreans actually practice than foreigners? I'm curious what the general impression is.


Hard to say because Foreigners don't have all the same training regimen. For instance, Nerchio seems to play a lot, MLorD much less (and he stopped playing for a few months at the beginning of the season too).

I think it's safe to say that Snute, Nerchio and such play probably as many hours or so as most of Koreans players, but that most of foreigners might be playing from one third to one half less.

The main issue anyway is not how many hours you play, but much more the quality of your training. Koreans have teams, which ups the quality significantly. And even when the don't have a team, like ByuN, they have more practice partners available it seems.

There is also a mindset and "intelligence" factor, which is hard to estimate but is a big factor in my opinion considering training quality. I'm thinking about MVP or TaeJa for instance, who couldn't play that much because of health issues, or Stephano, who couldn't play that much neither because of laziness and booze. (You can read this interview of TaeJa)
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 18 2016 15:12 GMT
#24
Nawwwww the foreigner thinks he can play in Korea
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Mlord
Profile Joined February 2013
France135 Posts
September 18 2016 15:29 GMT
#25
How is it arrogant to say that i am going to try to do my best and win as many match as i can? Wtf is wrong with half of the sc2 fan scene shitting on foreigner all the time while we try our best to make the foreigner scene look decent
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 18 2016 15:40 GMT
#26
On September 19 2016 00:29 Mlord wrote:
How is it arrogant to say that i am going to try to do my best and win as many match as i can? Wtf is wrong with half of the sc2 fan scene shitting on foreigner all the time while we try our best to make the foreigner scene look decent


Winning is arrogant, you gotta stick with showing good games
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-18 15:42:33
September 18 2016 15:40 GMT
#27
On September 19 2016 00:29 Mlord wrote:
How is it arrogant to say that i am going to try to do my best and win as many match as i can? Wtf is wrong with half of the sc2 fan scene shitting on foreigner all the time while we try our best to make the foreigner scene look decent


Don't take it seriously, it's just funny because historically foreigners get thrashed. Everyone on here wants you guys can to do your best at KeSPA cup
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 18 2016 18:19 GMT
#28
On September 19 2016 00:29 Mlord wrote:
How is it arrogant to say that i am going to try to do my best and win as many match as i can? Wtf is wrong with half of the sc2 fan scene shitting on foreigner all the time while we try our best to make the foreigner scene look decent

fuck yea
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
September 18 2016 19:09 GMT
#29
Foreigners vs koreans is the most hype you can get in SC2. I'd trade one Dimaga win vs nestea or one bandana terran all kill off IM against all proleague finals. So, foreigners gotta go out there and represent and don't give a shit about the little cynics.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
September 18 2016 19:30 GMT
#30
On September 19 2016 00:29 Mlord wrote:
How is it arrogant to say that i am going to try to do my best and win as many match as i can? Wtf is wrong with half of the sc2 fan scene shitting on foreigner all the time while we try our best to make the foreigner scene look decent

In general fans have become cynical. We look up to foreigners and put all our trust in them and time and time again we are let down. Of course occasionally you have that one run, but for each of those you have a 100 full foreigner runs.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
kaykoose
Profile Joined February 2014
United States2302 Posts
September 18 2016 19:31 GMT
#31
On September 19 2016 00:40 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2016 00:29 Mlord wrote:
How is it arrogant to say that i am going to try to do my best and win as many match as i can? Wtf is wrong with half of the sc2 fan scene shitting on foreigner all the time while we try our best to make the foreigner scene look decent


Winning is arrogant, you gotta stick with showing good games


lol
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12447 Posts
September 18 2016 19:47 GMT
#32
On September 19 2016 04:30 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2016 00:29 Mlord wrote:
How is it arrogant to say that i am going to try to do my best and win as many match as i can? Wtf is wrong with half of the sc2 fan scene shitting on foreigner all the time while we try our best to make the foreigner scene look decent

In general fans have become cynical. We look up to foreigners and put all our trust in them and time and time again we are let down. Of course occasionally you have that one run, but for each of those you have a 100 full foreigner runs.


Also it's very important for your narratives that the foreigners fail. That way you can shit on Blizzard and use "welfare" in a few more sentences.
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Parrek
Profile Joined May 2016
United States893 Posts
September 18 2016 19:56 GMT
#33
On September 19 2016 04:30 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2016 00:29 Mlord wrote:
How is it arrogant to say that i am going to try to do my best and win as many match as i can? Wtf is wrong with half of the sc2 fan scene shitting on foreigner all the time while we try our best to make the foreigner scene look decent

In general fans have become cynical. We look up to foreigners and put all our trust in them and time and time again we are let down. Of course occasionally you have that one run, but for each of those you have a 100 full foreigner runs.


Things have also changed this year. Foreigners have notably practiced more, especially players like Nerchio who is a god now, and, imo, one of the biggest differences between foreigners and Koreans has been stage experience and mentality. We saw time and time again that foreigners got a lead vs a big name Korean then tilted on the big stage and that's because they so rarely had experience on it. Both of those have improved significantly. Foreigner SC2 isn't throws into more throws anymore and that makes all the difference.
Setsunai
Profile Joined August 2016
12 Posts
September 19 2016 06:53 GMT
#34
Yes Blizzard, more global events please! What's the point of injecting more life into the foreign scene if we don't get to see them play against the best of the best!
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
September 19 2016 14:12 GMT
#35
It's much easier to "slay koreans" now that the majority of highly skilled/top tier koreans have either retired or gone back to bw.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
September 19 2016 15:33 GMT
#36
On September 19 2016 23:12 ReachTheSky wrote:
It's much easier to "slay koreans" now that the majority of highly skilled/top tier koreans have either retired or gone back to bw.

Yea, Mlord's life got a lot easier now that DRG is gone
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
petro1987
Profile Joined May 2009
Brazil374 Posts
September 19 2016 16:12 GMT
#37
On September 20 2016 00:33 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2016 23:12 ReachTheSky wrote:
It's much easier to "slay koreans" now that the majority of highly skilled/top tier koreans have either retired or gone back to bw.

Yea, Mlord's life got a lot easier now that DRG is gone


I don't think the issue is retirement at all. The problem is actually very little new blood in the scene.
MaCRo.gg
Profile Joined June 2015
Korea (South)860 Posts
September 19 2016 17:04 GMT
#38
On September 19 2016 04:47 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2016 04:30 Cricketer12 wrote:
On September 19 2016 00:29 Mlord wrote:
How is it arrogant to say that i am going to try to do my best and win as many match as i can? Wtf is wrong with half of the sc2 fan scene shitting on foreigner all the time while we try our best to make the foreigner scene look decent

In general fans have become cynical. We look up to foreigners and put all our trust in them and time and time again we are let down. Of course occasionally you have that one run, but for each of those you have a 100 full foreigner runs.


Also it's very important for your narratives that the foreigners fail. That way you can shit on Blizzard and use "welfare" in a few more sentences.

More like white privilege or xenophobic hate mongering than welfare.
2016 WCS will be as effective as Trump's 2017 Mexican border wall.
stardog
Profile Joined August 2011
556 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-19 21:04:20
September 19 2016 20:58 GMT
#39
On September 19 2016 23:12 ReachTheSky wrote:
It's much easier to "slay koreans" now that the majority of highly skilled/top tier koreans have either retired or gone back to bw.

Or got arrested.
But saying "majority" is a gross overstatement. Also many top tier foreigners retired so it's easier for Koreans too :o
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
September 19 2016 21:05 GMT
#40
On September 19 2016 00:29 Mlord wrote:
How is it arrogant to say that i am going to try to do my best and win as many match as i can? Wtf is wrong with half of the sc2 fan scene shitting on foreigner all the time while we try our best to make the foreigner scene look decent

who said it's arrogant?
the only thing I saw was this
On September 18 2016 05:13 stardog wrote:
After reading that title I was expecting an arrogant, teasing interview but in fact it was rather calm and balanced. Quite a clickbait headline

and it said that the title sounded arrogant but the interview not. nothing wrong with that is it?
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