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On August 06 2016 23:39 Ej_ wrote:
top 2: Winter ans ultragamer
nice to see that Shoutcraft pulled such big numbers in
with great leaders, pillars of the community, and just plain great men.... like UltraGamer500 and Winter leading SC2 into the future that is so bright.. i gotta wear shades
i agree about Shoutcraft...its great to see. TB has earned every single view; he always produces a solid product and sometimes a great product.
On August 07 2016 05:52 CyanEsports wrote:
I was under the impression that Twitch had figured out how to shut down botters. Apparently one of the websites said that they can't function anymore? Is there another service that's still up? I plead ignorance, I don't know that much about it honestly.
every single giant media company always errs on the side of producing large viewer/reader/listener #s. asking Twitch to police themselves is like asking the fox to guard the henhouse. many media companies just outright bullshit... and its revealed years later.
the Destiny game is a giant viewbotting warehouse.
i don't believe what Bell GlobeMedia tells me about the ratings on CTV... i don't believe what Rogers Communications tells me about how they are losing oodles of cash on the Toronto Blue Jays... and i damn sure don't believe a single damn # coming out of Twitch.tv
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On August 07 2016 00:04 ejozl wrote:
TLO vs Stephano wasn't exactly top 5 matches, but people were on the Stephano hype train, so it got a lot of viewers, was very nice to see.
Stephano vs herO was when I started listing matches on TL calendar
Missing info on the earlier series like Nerchio vs Dear/GuMiho which might've been more
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Ultragamer for featured streamer?
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Great to see new talent like Ultragamer500 rise to the top so fast. Proves that if you have the skills, the audience will follow.
/s
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On August 07 2016 06:04 Stijn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2016 05:32 B-royal wrote:
They aren't accurate as Flash for example pulls in a regular amount of viewers around 4-7k ("peak"), bisu often hits regular numbers around 2-4k as well.
Is this on afreeca.com?
Yeah, afreecatv.com. For example, bisu right now has 4k viewers whereas your table right now indicates 977 as peak.
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On August 07 2016 23:11 B-royal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2016 06:04 Stijn wrote:On August 07 2016 05:32 B-royal wrote:
They aren't accurate as Flash for example pulls in a regular amount of viewers around 4-7k ("peak"), bisu often hits regular numbers around 2-4k as well.
Is this on afreeca.com? Yeah, afreecatv.com. For example, bisu right now has 4k viewers whereas your table right now indicates 977 as peak.
Because the table is about SC 2 and not BW.
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On August 07 2016 07:33 GSTL wrote:
For somebody who didn't know, Ultragamer is PatchToss. The purpose of his streaming is to make fun of Winter's botting and Bronze challenge and Avilo's stream/hack cheating.
Oh, I didn't think you could waste time and throw away your life more than watching Avilo. This beats it.
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On August 08 2016 05:02 JoeCool wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2016 23:11 B-royal wrote:On August 07 2016 06:04 Stijn wrote:On August 07 2016 05:32 B-royal wrote:
They aren't accurate as Flash for example pulls in a regular amount of viewers around 4-7k ("peak"), bisu often hits regular numbers around 2-4k as well.
Is this on afreeca.com? Yeah, afreecatv.com. For example, bisu right now has 4k viewers whereas your table right now indicates 977 as peak. Because the table is about SC 2 and not BW.
Uh, what are you talking about? He actually provided the results for brood war as well.
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So UltraGamer500 featured on TL Live Streams when?
Full time or regular streamer that is considered insightful and informative who plays at a high level, with at least 100-150 viewers
Full time streamer with at least 250 constant viewers
Consistent streamer with high enough viewers and arguably insightful commentary
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On August 07 2016 23:11 B-royal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2016 06:04 Stijn wrote:On August 07 2016 05:32 B-royal wrote:
They aren't accurate as Flash for example pulls in a regular amount of viewers around 4-7k ("peak"), bisu often hits regular numbers around 2-4k as well.
Is this on afreeca.com? Yeah, afreecatv.com. For example, bisu right now has 4k viewers whereas your table right now indicates 977 as peak.
Thanks, looks like mobile viewers weren't included in the stats. They will be from now on!
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On August 08 2016 08:53 Stijn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2016 23:11 B-royal wrote:On August 07 2016 06:04 Stijn wrote:On August 07 2016 05:32 B-royal wrote:
They aren't accurate as Flash for example pulls in a regular amount of viewers around 4-7k ("peak"), bisu often hits regular numbers around 2-4k as well.
Is this on afreeca.com? Yeah, afreecatv.com. For example, bisu right now has 4k viewers whereas your table right now indicates 977 as peak. Thanks, looks like mobile viewers weren't included in the stats. They will be from now on!
Awesome! Very excited to see the updated stats in the future 
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So who is this UltraGamer500 guy?
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Thanks for BW stats, even though they are not correct :D
SC2 streamers ranking looks pretty sad to me.
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On August 08 2016 17:09 WidowMineHero wrote:
So who is this UltraGamer500 guy?
On August 07 2016 07:33 GSTL wrote:
For somebody who didn't know, Ultragamer is PatchToss. The purpose of his streaming is to make fun of Winter's botting and Bronze challenge and Avilo's stream/hack cheating.
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On August 08 2016 19:15 letian wrote:
Thanks for BW stats, even though they are not correct :D
SC2 streamers ranking looks pretty sad to me.
In afreeca, there are two numbers: total viewers and numbers of people currently in your chat room you were randomly selected in.
Seems like he took numbers from people in the chat room he is currently in.
Kinda ridiculous how he just took some random numbers from a site without knowing what they mean
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How authentic is UltraGamer's numbers? Are they not skewed by bots? You allow bots in your determining of stats? Seems to not properly represent "top" streamers, just streamers who have a high view count. "view" count.
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On August 09 2016 02:33 dr3am_b3ing wrote:
How authentic is UltraGamer's numbers? Are they not skewed by bots? You allow bots in your determining of stats? Seems to not properly represent "top" streamers, just streamers who have a high view count. "view" count.
If you have a way to differentiate bots from real viewers, throw it out there. If it was that easy to definitively say "Those numbers are bots" then Twitch wouldn't have a botting issue in the first place.
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On August 09 2016 01:36 duke91 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 08 2016 19:15 letian wrote:
Thanks for BW stats, even though they are not correct :D
SC2 streamers ranking looks pretty sad to me. In afreeca, there are two numbers: total viewers and numbers of people currently in your chat room you were randomly selected in. Seems like he took numbers from people in the chat room he is currently in. Kinda ridiculous how he just took some random numbers from a site without knowing what they mean
Woah woah woah, you're jumping to conclusions here. The numbers come from the Afreeca API. Each stream has multiple viewer counts listed for it, and I happened to use the "current viewer count" metric, which apparently doesn't include mobile viewers (it's listed as "desktop viewers" on Afreeca). It's true that I wasn't aware that "current viewer count" doesn't include all viewers (maybe it did before? I can't check, unfortunately), but it's not like I went to Afreeca, picked a random number and used that as the metric.
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