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[SPL'16] Round 2 Playoffs - Match 2 - Preview

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May 16th, 2016 15:16 GMT
Table of Contents

Telecom Classic
SKT vs KT


Telecom Classic


Yesterday was all about the Classic show. After a pretty forgettable start to Legacy over the past six months, it looks like he’s finally kicked into gear. For a team with so many stars, SKT have definitely looked mortal in the past few weeks. Dream is channeling his 2015 in looking flashy while still managing to lose; INnoVation seems to have a serious weakness to protoss while soO’s been struggling in the late game against terran. Dark’s been the team’s one shining light, but even he’s tailed off since his SSL run; his 2016 ZvP winrate is still an unimpeachable 83% (15-3), but while winrates in the mid 60s are definitely above average for his other two matchups, he’s still not an all-round slayer just yet. Classic’s return to form though may allow SKT to set up favourable matchups in the all-kill format. Let’s take a look at the key battles which we might get to see.

SKT vs KT


  1. Classic vs Stats

    Obviously, we should probably start with the one game we’re guaranteed to see. After his all-kill, Classic’s been sent out again, while Stats has been given the nod for KT. Stats is definitely in good PvP form—in 2016, he’s 15-3 in the matchup—although the calibre of his opposition has been slightly questionable. Hurricane, Patience, MyuNgSiK, and Blaze are all mid-tier protosses in Legacy, sOs is in awful form, while herO’s given him his sole match loss. It’s undeniable that he’s good, but we’ll only know how good he is with games against the elite. Classic too has good results in the matchup (10-4 in 2016), and since his return to the SKT lineup, it’s notable that he’s beaten both Zest and herO (and sOs). This is a crucial match for both teams, and in a 50/50 call, I’ve tossed a coin and opted for Classic.

  2. Protoss snipers

    Whether it’s Classic or Stats that wins game 1, we’re going to see the losing team send out a protoss sniper. This is going to be problematic for both teams. For KT, their main issue is their lack of quality zergs. With their core of TY / Stats / Zest all but guaranteed spots in the team, we’re probably going to see one of Leenock or Losira making up the numbers. Do they trust their zergs to pick up the win, or will they send in TY? For SKT, they already have a ready-made sniper in Dark. The issue though, is that Zest is still lurking in the KT ace spot, and Dark really is the sole true counter to him (that is, if he even manages to take the win).

    There’s a pretty interesting way to look at what a team might do for these all-kill matches—look at the players lined up practicing in the previous match. There are actually four ‘booths’ in the Nexon Arena for Proleague, with two for each team. In general, there’ll always be one player practicing / setting up their gear in one while their teammate plays in the other. For example, Dream was practicing while Classic was playing ByuL, and Impact for Hush / herO (empty booth for Bunny). It’s not inconceivable that we’ll see those snipers again should SKT have to set up against a zerg / protoss.

  3. TY, Zest, Dark

    With the possible exception of Maru, these three players sit far above the rest so far in Korean LotV, and both teams will definitely be planning around how to counter the other team’s stars.

    Zest is universally the consensus #1 player in the world. In 2016, his statistical record is staggering—86% winrate in PvP, 88% winrate in PvT. Next to those, 54% in PvZ is a big outlier. There are some excuses you can use—his recent 0-3 and 1-3 online losses to Snute and DeParture recently came near his GSL Final and some crucial Proleague matches, so you’d forgive perhaps him for focussing on those—but it’s undeniably an area that SKT should be looking to test.

    Dark is the premier zerg in the world, and has emerged as a ZvP specialist. There’s almost no way that SKT send anyone else against Zest, and is probably the sole player on SKT capable of taking a multi-kill to save the game here (aside from Classic, should he play to the same standards as yesterday)—all their other players have clear weaknesses in certain matchups. Dark vs Zest is the ace match that we all want to see.

    TY is the real wildcard for KT. His mirror matchup play is probably too good for either of the SKT terrans (see his dominant 3-0 over Dream / 4-0 against Cure in GSL), and it’s likely that they’ll revert to the same strategies from Round 1—cheese him out with zergs, or give MyuNgSiK a go perhaps.


Predictions

Here’s a guess at how it’ll turn out. Frankly, I think it all comes down to whether Dark can beat TY and Zest; there's no one else on SKT who you'd favour against either.

Classic > Stats
Classic < TY
soO < TY
INnoVation < TY
Dark > TY
Dark > Leenock
Dark > Zest

SKT 4 - 3 KT

Time until SKT vs KT


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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
May 16 2016 15:25 GMT
#2
No. Zest will not lose to some dark SKT magic. KT 4-3 SKT.
Even when it would be better for us to play vs SKT in not top form in the finals ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
EpicTroll27
Profile Joined May 2016
6 Posts
May 16 2016 16:20 GMT
#3
Classic < Stats
soO > Stats
soO < TY
InNoVation < TY
Dark > TY
Dark > Leenock
Dark < Zest
SKT 3 - 4 KT

I think it all depends on Dark vs Zest. And that's what I think can go either way. My heart says Zest but my mind says Dark. (PS: Been lurking for ages. First Post :D)
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
May 16 2016 16:47 GMT
#4
Tomorrow will be sick however the games go. Good luck Leenock
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
May 16 2016 16:57 GMT
#5
You think there's a chance we see jjakji since he made it through both qualifiers last week? He did beat INnoVation and KT's 4th spot is really up for grasp. And I don't think our Zergs are really good enough to Zerg SKT's Terrans or ZvZ someone.
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
May 16 2016 17:00 GMT
#6
On May 17 2016 01:57 Elentos wrote:
You think there's a chance we see jjakji since he made it through both qualifiers last week? He did beat INnoVation and KT's 4th spot is really up for grasp. And I don't think our Zergs are really good enough to Zerg SKT's Terrans or ZvZ someone.


Maybe, but it really depends who he gets to play against. His TvT looks OK, but why wouldn't you send TY to stomp Dream / INno? We haven't seen his TvP since Code A, so who knows how that'll be, but again I doubt he'd be sent to snipe Classic. And he's lost to loads of zergs recently, and looked weak against Curious last time in Proleague.

I really do like jjakji, but I feel that he might see more potential play against Jin Air as a Cure sniper. SKT's weaknesses don't line up to his strengths necessarily
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
May 16 2016 17:11 GMT
#7
On May 17 2016 02:00 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 01:57 Elentos wrote:
You think there's a chance we see jjakji since he made it through both qualifiers last week? He did beat INnoVation and KT's 4th spot is really up for grasp. And I don't think our Zergs are really good enough to Zerg SKT's Terrans or ZvZ someone.


Maybe, but it really depends who he gets to play against. His TvT looks OK, but why wouldn't you send TY to stomp Dream / INno? We haven't seen his TvP since Code A, so who knows how that'll be, but again I doubt he'd be sent to snipe Classic. And he's lost to loads of zergs recently, and looked weak against Curious last time in Proleague.

I really do like jjakji, but I feel that he might see more potential play against Jin Air as a Cure sniper. SKT's weaknesses don't line up to his strengths necessarily

Saving him for later.

I agree with your overall sentiment, but then, it's not like fielding Leenock or Losira looks like a much better option. We also almost never see jjakji, so I guess that's a problem. He beat TRUE in Code A, that was his only TvZ in the last 2 months. Against Classic Leenock would be the best, against anyone else on SKT, I think it wouldn't matter whether you send Losira, Leenock, jjakji, SpeeD or Trust.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16009 Posts
May 16 2016 17:19 GMT
#8
Classic<Stats
soO<Stats
Dark<Stats
INnoVation>Stats
INnoVation>Zest
INnoVation>TY
INnoVation>Losira
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 16 2016 17:24 GMT
#9
KT has this, Stats won't lose to Classic.

I expect something like this:

Classic < Stats
Dream < Stats
soO > Stats
soO < TY
Dark < TY

We won't even need Zest
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
May 16 2016 17:27 GMT
#10
On May 17 2016 02:11 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 02:00 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On May 17 2016 01:57 Elentos wrote:
You think there's a chance we see jjakji since he made it through both qualifiers last week? He did beat INnoVation and KT's 4th spot is really up for grasp. And I don't think our Zergs are really good enough to Zerg SKT's Terrans or ZvZ someone.


Maybe, but it really depends who he gets to play against. His TvT looks OK, but why wouldn't you send TY to stomp Dream / INno? We haven't seen his TvP since Code A, so who knows how that'll be, but again I doubt he'd be sent to snipe Classic. And he's lost to loads of zergs recently, and looked weak against Curious last time in Proleague.

I really do like jjakji, but I feel that he might see more potential play against Jin Air as a Cure sniper. SKT's weaknesses don't line up to his strengths necessarily

Saving him for later.

I agree with your overall sentiment, but then, it's not like fielding Leenock or Losira looks like a much better option. We also almost never see jjakji, so I guess that's a problem. He beat TRUE in Code A, that was his only TvZ in the last 2 months. Against Classic Leenock would be the best, against anyone else on SKT, I think it wouldn't matter whether you send Losira, Leenock, jjakji, SpeeD or Trust.


If I had to guess, I'd almost say that each one of them would be assigned a map / player and they just send whoever's prepped. 4th player's not gonna be where it's won or lost though, if KT stop Dark I think it's all over for SKT
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Hurricaned
Profile Joined October 2011
France126 Posts
May 16 2016 18:14 GMT
#11
I sense a 2nd Classic all-kill so that everyone feels stupid for ever doubting him.
zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
May 16 2016 19:54 GMT
#12
why is everyone underrating stats. he is the most underrated toss alltime even more then classic it feels like
TY my boy gogo
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
May 16 2016 19:57 GMT
#13
I'm hoping that TL is giving SKT a nice writer curse so that KT can win tomorrow
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Orr
Profile Joined February 2014
United States168 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-16 20:50:51
May 16 2016 20:25 GMT
#14
Disagree w/ TY being considered in the current S-tier (Zest/Dark/Maru). While his recent GSL runner-up finish was incredible, he doesn't have the resume (despite his extensive career) to suggest that it wasn't an anomaly. While looking incredible early on in PL, and even being utilized as the co-ace player to Zest, he's looked increasingly shaky and resumed his usual role as a core starter winning ~50% of his matches. His depth of multi-tasking/domination in games against inferior competition is easy to be drawn into stylistically, but his routine struggles against top tier opposition in the BO1 format strongly suggest that he's currently being overvalued.

I think SKT is gearing their game-plan much more towards defeating Stats and the giant Zest. Both have AK ability every single time in the booth, and have proven it against SKT before.

*SKT 4-2 KT
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
May 16 2016 20:36 GMT
#15
SKT best KT
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
May 16 2016 20:42 GMT
#16
Stats 2 kill into Dark killing Stats and Leenock into TY 2 kill.

Zest is rest.
terfand
Profile Joined June 2012
Russian Federation119 Posts
May 16 2016 20:53 GMT
#17
Stats will win the opener, SKT will win the match and Jin Air will win the finals.
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5596 Posts
May 16 2016 21:04 GMT
#18
Who will be the Chin KOTH?
don't wall off against random
ZertoN
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany214 Posts
May 16 2016 21:41 GMT
#19
inno to all kill
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NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
May 16 2016 21:47 GMT
#20
I'm surprised the KT fans are not being more aggressive here
well, I guess our BM and banters will come after we win
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