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Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-15 18:14:47
May 12 2016 10:03 GMT
#1
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Today was the turn of the StarLeague qualifiers and just like yesterday's GSL qualifiers there were ups and downs and the odd foreigner trying out too!
First off let's go through the noteable changes to StarLeague, this qualifier was to determine the 24 players heading into the "StarLeague Season 2 Challenge League" which is 4 groups of 6, in a best of two format. However this format is pretty interesting, as the two maps are determined by the players preferences, this map selected by the player is called "home" match and the opponent's preference is the away match. Rankings in the group are determined by results first then as a tiebreaker those with more away map wins will triumph over those with fewer. Sound familiar football fans?

Now onto what happened in the qualifiers!

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_StarCraft_II_StarLeague_Season_2/Qualifier

(Z)NoRegreT was first up in the morning session, he managed to get to the final but lost to (P)Trap and (P)Hush respectively. (Z)Scarlett also was in action again but she got unstuck by running into (P)herO before managing to get to the loser final before meeting a familiar foe in (T)Bomber for a place in StarLeague, unfortunately after a good start she fell 2-1 to the Bronzed (T)Bomber and thus bombed out at the last hurdle.
They were not the only noticeable players to drop out though, with the likes of (T)INnoVation , (T)Dream and (Z)ByuL all failing to qualify for this season StarLeague. Also there would be no repeat of our protoss president (P)MC as he also failed to qualify with losses to (T)BrAvO and (P)Trust.

Qualified Players
(P)Trap (P)Dear (P)sOs (P)Classic (P)herO (P)Super (P)Hurricane (P)Trust (P)Hush (P)Zest
(T)Reality (T)GuMiho (T)Bomber (T)aLive (T)TY (T)Maru (T)Cure (T)jjakji (T)ByuN
(Z)Rogue (Z)Curious (Z)Impact (Z)soO (Z)Losira

10 9 5


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2016_StarCraft_II_StarLeague_Season_2/Challenge

Challenger begins, 2nd June 2016

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Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
May 12 2016 10:11 GMT
#2
So when will the Challenger matches begin?
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 10:22:55
May 12 2016 10:17 GMT
#3
On May 12 2016 19:11 Alarak89 wrote:
So when will the Challenger matches begin?

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kugHop
Profile Joined January 2016
Luxembourg44 Posts
May 12 2016 10:21 GMT
#4
Well, i'm not even disappointed with Inno at this point. Somehow i can't expect good results from him in LOTV...

But sad that Noregret an Scarlett didn't make it, this would have maybe motivated other top foreigners to come and try their luck in Korea.
...and on the final day, our Lord and Savior, Maru, and his disciples sOs and Rogue appeared before us and said: Don't worry my loyal fans for Proleague will forever be our Kingdom!"
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51483 Posts
May 12 2016 10:24 GMT
#5
2nd June 2016, jesus christ we have a long wait of nothing? Unless GSL is going to start next week and all that is done and then S2SL starts.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
May 12 2016 10:25 GMT
#6
Hmm maybe there will be time for a KeSPA cup in between the seasons then!
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 12 2016 10:27 GMT
#7
On May 12 2016 19:24 Pandemona wrote:
2nd June 2016, jesus christ we have a long wait of nothing? Unless GSL is going to start next week and all that is done and then S2SL starts.


next week we have 3 days of proleague and cross finals. If they rush everything Korean SC2 stops mid july.

Interesting format and not totally retarded like the initial season 1 format, nice to see new stuff.
Zest fanboy.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51483 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 10:32:53
May 12 2016 10:32 GMT
#8
On May 12 2016 19:27 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2016 19:24 Pandemona wrote:
2nd June 2016, jesus christ we have a long wait of nothing? Unless GSL is going to start next week and all that is done and then S2SL starts.


next week we have 3 days of proleague and cross finals. If they rush everything Korean SC2 stops mid july.

Interesting format and not totally retarded like the initial season 1 format, nice to see new stuff.


Stops mid july if they rush it?
Weds Friday for GSL they have 24 bo5 Code A games to start with at 4 a day that is a month's worth then you have ro32 groups which again is another month of 2 groups a week and we are in August before we in knock out stage. Thursday we get once a week s2sl. They have challenger groups into round of 16 which is going to be another 6 weeks from then on. September is most likely we will be without sc2 in Korea now xd
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5586 Posts
May 12 2016 10:38 GMT
#9
So many Terrans qualifying for both, nice. Lookin' good for KT as well, hype!
don't wall off against random
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 10:53:31
May 12 2016 10:40 GMT
#10
so if we include the preseeded players (top 4 from last season), we have
6 KT players
5 JA players
5 Afreeca Freecs players
4 SSG players
4 SKT players

SKT what are you doing?
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2214 Posts
May 12 2016 10:58 GMT
#11
Oh innovation
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 12 2016 11:35 GMT
#12
God dammit Inno. At least you got into GSL. At least a bunch of other players I liked got in.
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
May 12 2016 11:39 GMT
#13
with inno vs dark in gsl code A it could be that inno ends this year with no succes at all
TY my boy gogo
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 11:54:12
May 12 2016 11:53 GMT
#14
Maru in both SSL and GSL.

Let's go Maru! Show us your form! Show us who is truly the number one Terran out there!
maru lover forever
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1851 Posts
May 12 2016 12:09 GMT
#15
On May 12 2016 20:53 Incognoto wrote:
Maru in both SSL and GSL.

Let's go Maru! Show us your form! Show us who is truly the number one Terran out there!


Only 5 Zerg in SSL is really good for Maru. He could definitely win both Starleagues this summer with the form that he's in.
┗|∵|┓Second Place in LB 28, Third Place in LB 29 and Destined to Be a Kong
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 12 2016 12:19 GMT
#16
Agreed, he's championship material.

Innovation and Dark taking each other out as well is a good thing.

I'm just afraid of Zest, but hopefully someone takes him out before Zest meets Maru. Zest is pretty much the only guy I'm afraid of at this point, maybe Dark as well but yeah well Dark might get innovated.

No Parting either, so that's a good thing. All these big names which used to be trouble for Maru are out of the picture atm, just because Maru is so consistent.
maru lover forever
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
May 12 2016 12:23 GMT
#17
Maru dual Crown pretty please, or the Rogue x Maru combo for double JA champions ^_^
Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
May 12 2016 12:30 GMT
#18
this time TY will get his title
TY my boy gogo
Colouss
Profile Joined November 2013
United States501 Posts
May 12 2016 12:37 GMT
#19
Hoping that Dear'll preform as well as he did in the GSL, if not better. I'd love to see him outside of Korea again.
Chinese teams flair when
zakadar
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany409 Posts
May 12 2016 12:52 GMT
#20
so if we include the preseeded players (top 4 from last season), we have
6 KT players
5 JA players
5 Afreeca Freecs players
4 SSG players
4 SKT players

SKT what are you doing?
KT best KT confirmed
TY my boy gogo
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
May 12 2016 12:55 GMT
#21
Does anyone know, when will they draw the players into the groups? Can't wait for them!!!

Also pretty happy with sOs / Maru / Rogue / Trap / Cure all qualified ...A pity, HyuN did not make it ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 13:02:18
May 12 2016 13:00 GMT
#22
Maru for the double crown!

MVP was SC2's Boxer.
Life can be SC2's Savior (as hurtful as it is to say this).
Zest can be SC2's Bisu.

Now, Maru shall step up and be the next Flash.

Remember that Flash, like Maru, started out super young, showed a lot of potential.

I shall become Maru's greatest fan
maru lover forever
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
May 12 2016 13:22 GMT
#23
dream and innovation, damn

and if innovation loses against dark during the GSL code a, holy heck
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
May 12 2016 13:23 GMT
#24
On May 12 2016 22:22 Makro wrote:
dream and innovation, damn

and if innovation loses against dark during the GSL code a, holy heck

He lost to jjakji in the SSL qualifiers. No sympathy.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
May 12 2016 13:27 GMT
#25
The race disparity is much bigger than in code S also, that's strange.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 13:31:21
May 12 2016 13:30 GMT
#26
On May 12 2016 22:27 AbouSV wrote:
The race disparity is much bigger than in code S also, that's strange.

I think that mostly comes down to brackets. Also some players seem like they had a worse day today than yesterday. HyuN qualified for Code A yesterday, then lost to some rookie today.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19231 Posts
May 12 2016 13:33 GMT
#27
On May 12 2016 19:24 Pandemona wrote:
2nd June 2016, jesus christ we have a long wait of nothing? Unless GSL is going to start next week and all that is done and then S2SL starts.

Try being a Brood War fan. Afreeca said they wouldn't run the next SC1 Starleague until the lastest GSL had finished.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 12 2016 13:55 GMT
#28
oh

well if we get to watch brood war instead... i guess that's not so bad
maru lover forever
ZertoN
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany214 Posts
May 12 2016 14:50 GMT
#29
well if youre still a broodwar fan in 2016 you shouldnt expect too much
"I don't like games that i need to think a lot, i am not interested in those games." - TaeJa, 2016
Traitorwtf
Profile Joined May 2016
Russian Federation15 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 15:05:37
May 12 2016 15:01 GMT
#30
Great to see so many JAGW players! Especially Maru :3 and $o$ :3 and Rogue :3 omg, they all great)

I'm wondering how they are going to play and stream 15 BO2(omg) matches in one day...
Challenge Stage: 6 players in one group, Round Robin, BO2

Also happy 1 post-day to me!) I have been reading TL since like 2012, but only now registered. Cause, you know, English is not my native language. So, bear with me guys)
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 12 2016 15:06 GMT
#31
The new format is interesting, prefer it to the GSL mess for sure
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12166 Posts
May 12 2016 15:08 GMT
#32
Parting didn't even try, that's sad :/

Also when you compare the list of people who don't make it into gsl and the list of people who don't make it into ssl, the disparity is pretty big... The scene clearly fits better into the gsl format than it does in the ssl format, I'm not sure which format is better because of that (competitiveness vs inclusivity)
No will to live, no wish to die
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 12 2016 15:11 GMT
#33
On May 13 2016 00:01 Traitorwtf wrote:
Great to see so many JAGW players! Especially Maru :3 and $o$ :3 and Rogue :3 omg, they all great)

I'm wondering how they are going to play and stream 15 BO2(omg) matches in one day...
Challenge Stage: 6 players in one group, Round Robin, BO2

Also happy 1 post-day to me!) I have been reading TL since like 2012, but only now registered. Cause, you know, English is not my native language. So, bear with me guys)


you are a jin air fan

you are a true man

welcome to teamliquid, please join the church of maru. let us spread the gospel
maru lover forever
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
May 12 2016 15:13 GMT
#34
http://sports.news.naver.com/esports/news/read.nhn?oid=347&aid=0000088690


"... it`s not certain whether he`ll take this offer. It is known that both SPOTV and Rain are contemplating this issue carefully."

hmm.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
NinjaToss
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Austria1383 Posts
May 12 2016 15:19 GMT
#35
On May 13 2016 00:13 Thouhastmail wrote:
http://sports.news.naver.com/esports/news/read.nhn?oid=347&aid=0000088690


"... it`s not certain whether he`ll take this offer. It is known that both SPOTV and Rain are contemplating this issue carefully."

hmm.


thank you for telling us, really helpful for telling this
I'm sorry for all those that got their hearts broken by Zest | Zest, Bisu, soO, herO, MC, Maru, TY, Rogue, Trap, TaeJa", Favourite foreigners: ShoWTimE, Snute, Serral and Nerchio| KT BEST KT |
Lightrush
Profile Joined July 2015
Bulgaria164 Posts
May 12 2016 15:26 GMT
#36
Maru getting another 11:0, this time in singles competition! #thedreamisreal
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Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
May 12 2016 15:28 GMT
#37
On May 13 2016 00:19 NinjaToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 00:13 Thouhastmail wrote:
http://sports.news.naver.com/esports/news/read.nhn?oid=347&aid=0000088690


"... it`s not certain whether he`ll take this offer. It is known that both SPOTV and Rain are contemplating this issue carefully."

hmm.


thank you for telling us, really helpful for telling this


Anyway, SPOTV offered him a job; that`s a good news. And I`d assume that Rain will take that chance.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
May 12 2016 15:53 GMT
#38
Ya-ha jjakji! Back to back qualifying days!

Woot woot woot!
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seopthi
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
391 Posts
May 12 2016 16:10 GMT
#39
On May 13 2016 00:26 Lightrush wrote:
Maru getting another 11:0, this time in singles competition! #thedreamisreal


His winrate in aggregate must be now even crazier than Zest's
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19231 Posts
May 12 2016 16:26 GMT
#40
On May 12 2016 23:50 ZertoN wrote:
well if youre still a broodwar fan in 2016 you shouldnt expect too much

I guess neither should you?
[image loading]

I've made a pretty nice career out of ignoring people who bash either side of SC1 vs SC2, but maybe there are a few people who still don't know better. Both SC1 and SC2 are doing extremely well despite whatever uninformed opinions you may have.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10671 Posts
May 12 2016 16:28 GMT
#41
Afreeca Freecs gogo fighting! Only 5 Zergs T_T
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
zyzzbrah888
Profile Joined April 2016
20 Posts
May 12 2016 18:29 GMT
#42
Hyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyype. Worried for Inno though
DinosaurPoop
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
687 Posts
May 12 2016 18:37 GMT
#43
Really interested to see how the Challenge format goes
When cats speak, mice listen.
lastride
Profile Joined April 2014
2390 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-12 18:48:58
May 12 2016 18:47 GMT
#44
Man back in the bw days the qualifers were a tournament themselves. Now you just have to win 2 bo3s to qualify. Of course in bw the player pool was huge
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
May 12 2016 18:52 GMT
#45
BOMBER!
The Bomber boy
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
May 12 2016 22:51 GMT
#46
Wow that scarlett bracket! That would have been so awesome to watch a cast of. Really impressive she is actually in great form though. Barely didn't make it and took out some Kespa players along the way. Some groups I think she would have made it out. And facing bomber to get out of the group! So much nostalgia!

Also parting lost to seed in that group? So sad to see this drop in skill from one of the best personalities in Korean Starcraft. I miss skt parting.
hssdgc
Profile Joined April 2016
China24 Posts
May 13 2016 00:32 GMT
#47
On May 13 2016 07:51 zealotstim wrote:
Wow that scarlett bracket! That would have been so awesome to watch a cast of. Really impressive she is actually in great form though. Barely didn't make it and took out some Kespa players along the way. Some groups I think she would have made it out. And facing bomber to get out of the group! So much nostalgia!

Also parting lost to seed in that group? So sad to see this drop in skill from one of the best personalities in Korean Starcraft. I miss skt parting.

Parting forfeited
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2111 Posts
May 13 2016 01:14 GMT
#48
Liking that Terran lineup! LEGGO!
Shame but, a lot of my favs didn't make it
John 15:13
ZertoN
Profile Joined February 2014
Germany214 Posts
May 13 2016 11:54 GMT
#49
On May 13 2016 01:26 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2016 23:50 ZertoN wrote:
well if youre still a broodwar fan in 2016 you shouldnt expect too much

I guess neither should you?
[image loading]

I've made a pretty nice career out of ignoring people who bash either side of SC1 vs SC2, but maybe there are a few people who still don't know better. Both SC1 and SC2 are doing extremely well despite whatever uninformed opinions you may have.



i guess taking a screenshot specifically when bw viewership peaks and sc2s is at its lowest proofs how healthy the scene is...
"I don't like games that i need to think a lot, i am not interested in those games." - TaeJa, 2016
Gen.Rolly
Profile Joined September 2011
United States200 Posts
May 17 2016 06:37 GMT
#50
Props to Scarlett for trying, didn't even know she had such high aspirations. She's definitely still got it.
Vector locked in.
Krystal
Profile Joined April 2012
New Zealand67 Posts
May 17 2016 06:45 GMT
#51
On May 13 2016 20:54 ZertoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 01:26 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 12 2016 23:50 ZertoN wrote:
well if youre still a broodwar fan in 2016 you shouldnt expect too much

I guess neither should you?
[image loading]

I've made a pretty nice career out of ignoring people who bash either side of SC1 vs SC2, but maybe there are a few people who still don't know better. Both SC1 and SC2 are doing extremely well despite whatever uninformed opinions you may have.



i guess taking a screenshot specifically when bw viewership peaks and sc2s is at its lowest proofs how healthy the scene is...


I cannot even...

80% of the time I look, bw has twice as many viewer as SC2... And I don't think I've seen a SC2 stream with over 6000 viewers in years...
"There are two things in life: Things I understand and Things Wizards must have done."
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
May 17 2016 06:54 GMT
#52
On May 17 2016 15:45 Krystal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 20:54 ZertoN wrote:
On May 13 2016 01:26 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 12 2016 23:50 ZertoN wrote:
well if youre still a broodwar fan in 2016 you shouldnt expect too much

I guess neither should you?
[image loading]

I've made a pretty nice career out of ignoring people who bash either side of SC1 vs SC2, but maybe there are a few people who still don't know better. Both SC1 and SC2 are doing extremely well despite whatever uninformed opinions you may have.



i guess taking a screenshot specifically when bw viewership peaks and sc2s is at its lowest proofs how healthy the scene is...


I cannot even...

80% of the time I look, bw has twice as many viewer as SC2... And I don't think I've seen a SC2 stream with over 6000 viewers in years...


Exaggeration but yeah, bw generally has more. Though in saying that SC2 has more as I type this.

But it's silly to compare anyway, that's the best of the best BW players streaming there compared to a sc2 caster and some low tier pros.

Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 17 2016 07:00 GMT
#53
On May 13 2016 20:54 ZertoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 01:26 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 12 2016 23:50 ZertoN wrote:
well if youre still a broodwar fan in 2016 you shouldnt expect too much

I guess neither should you?
[image loading]

I've made a pretty nice career out of ignoring people who bash either side of SC1 vs SC2, but maybe there are a few people who still don't know better. Both SC1 and SC2 are doing extremely well despite whatever uninformed opinions you may have.



i guess taking a screenshot specifically when bw viewership peaks and sc2s is at its lowest proofs how healthy the scene is...


Your remarks are just flat-out silly.

"Brood war is a dead game",

You get shown some strong BW viewership numbers.

"SC2 is also a dead game",

Wow!

Just keep those silly remarks to yourself. Neither games are dead, both are fine and kicking. If you need high viewership in order to compensate for your insecurities about the "health" of the game, then go watch LoL. Personally I enjoy Starcraft without burdening myself about viewer numbers.
maru lover forever
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-17 07:05:49
May 17 2016 07:02 GMT
#54
On May 13 2016 20:54 ZertoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 01:26 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 12 2016 23:50 ZertoN wrote:
well if youre still a broodwar fan in 2016 you shouldnt expect too much

I guess neither should you?
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I've made a pretty nice career out of ignoring people who bash either side of SC1 vs SC2, but maybe there are a few people who still don't know better. Both SC1 and SC2 are doing extremely well despite whatever uninformed opinions you may have.



i guess taking a screenshot specifically when bw viewership peaks and sc2s is at its lowest proofs how healthy the scene is...

No big name is streaming for SC2 anyway even in "prime time". Where BW has Bisu or Flash who do we have? Which SC2 player is that big? Mvp? Oh... Life? Oh^2...

The closest active player is Parting who's invisible this year. From former active players who still stream it's MC. Probably Polt and Bomber too.

From the currently active and godlike players - Zest, Maru? Have they ever streamed?

Top SC2 Pros don't stream :'( Oh god, I wish Maru or Zest would stream.

Whenever Flash streamed SC2 people were crazy and numbers were insanely high for a "dead game"

Edit>God damn it, now when I reread it again - I do not mean that Bomber and Polt are former active players >< But that they are the closest we have in the way of foreigners knowing them and following them, jeez, what a start to this day
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
May 17 2016 07:21 GMT
#55
On May 17 2016 16:02 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 20:54 ZertoN wrote:
On May 13 2016 01:26 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 12 2016 23:50 ZertoN wrote:
well if youre still a broodwar fan in 2016 you shouldnt expect too much

I guess neither should you?
[image loading]

I've made a pretty nice career out of ignoring people who bash either side of SC1 vs SC2, but maybe there are a few people who still don't know better. Both SC1 and SC2 are doing extremely well despite whatever uninformed opinions you may have.



i guess taking a screenshot specifically when bw viewership peaks and sc2s is at its lowest proofs how healthy the scene is...

No big name is streaming for SC2 anyway even in "prime time". Where BW has Bisu or Flash who do we have? Which SC2 player is that big? Mvp? Oh... Life? Oh^2...

The closest active player is Parting who's invisible this year. From former active players who still stream it's MC. Probably Polt and Bomber too.

From the currently active and godlike players - Zest, Maru? Have they ever streamed?

Top SC2 Pros don't stream :'( Oh god, I wish Maru or Zest would stream.

Whenever Flash streamed SC2 people were crazy and numbers were insanely high for a "dead game"

Edit>God damn it, now when I reread it again - I do not mean that Bomber and Polt are former active players >< But that they are the closest we have in the way of foreigners knowing them and following them, jeez, what a start to this day


The comparison is meaningless because it is really apples to oranges. SC2 has an insane amount of tournaments and these draw the viewers, the time when people cared about personal streams are long gone. BW to my understanding, while having reasonably big tournaments now and there is much more stream-centered. So comparing stream numbers is just plain stupid.
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MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-17 07:55:52
May 17 2016 07:54 GMT
#56
On May 13 2016 01:26 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2016 23:50 ZertoN wrote:
well if youre still a broodwar fan in 2016 you shouldnt expect too much

I guess neither should you?
[image loading]

I've made a pretty nice career out of ignoring people who bash either side of SC1 vs SC2, but maybe there are a few people who still don't know better. Both SC1 and SC2 are doing extremely well despite whatever uninformed opinions you may have.


well I mean i agree with you.
But you also have to consider that sc2 is the more up-to-date game, with a larger global viewer base vs BW, since bw is mainly played in South korea.
A lot of Starcraft pros won't stream cuz of proleague (THEIR TEAM MANAGERS WON'T LET THEM STREAM).

also, like sure fking flash has 6000 viewers, but if flash played sc2 streams, he may well have over 2000-3000 viewers, and that's only on twitch, i can confidently say that over 3000 people would watch flash in the chinese viewerside, they just would watch it from a different platform.

So don't me this bullshit about bw being more popular than sc2. Their not comparable, bw is the old game, sc2 is the new one. that's that, they are both NOT POPULAR compared to games like LOL, Dota 2 etc
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
May 17 2016 07:57 GMT
#57
On May 17 2016 15:45 Krystal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2016 20:54 ZertoN wrote:
On May 13 2016 01:26 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 12 2016 23:50 ZertoN wrote:
well if youre still a broodwar fan in 2016 you shouldnt expect too much

I guess neither should you?
[image loading]

I've made a pretty nice career out of ignoring people who bash either side of SC1 vs SC2, but maybe there are a few people who still don't know better. Both SC1 and SC2 are doing extremely well despite whatever uninformed opinions you may have.



i guess taking a screenshot specifically when bw viewership peaks and sc2s is at its lowest proofs how healthy the scene is...


I cannot even...

80% of the time I look, bw has twice as many viewer as SC2... And I don't think I've seen a SC2 stream with over 6000 viewers in years...

that's cuz you're favorite players almost NEVER stream sc2 (flash did a few times, and his numbers were high)
ALSO IT'S FUKING FLASH, NO ONE ELSE WILL HAVE THAT NUMBER, I can;t believe ppl are still doubting the fame of Flash
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
May 17 2016 08:10 GMT
#58
On May 17 2016 16:57 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2016 15:45 Krystal wrote:
On May 13 2016 20:54 ZertoN wrote:
On May 13 2016 01:26 BisuDagger wrote:
On May 12 2016 23:50 ZertoN wrote:
well if youre still a broodwar fan in 2016 you shouldnt expect too much

I guess neither should you?
[image loading]

I've made a pretty nice career out of ignoring people who bash either side of SC1 vs SC2, but maybe there are a few people who still don't know better. Both SC1 and SC2 are doing extremely well despite whatever uninformed opinions you may have.



i guess taking a screenshot specifically when bw viewership peaks and sc2s is at its lowest proofs how healthy the scene is...


I cannot even...

80% of the time I look, bw has twice as many viewer as SC2... And I don't think I've seen a SC2 stream with over 6000 viewers in years...

that's cuz you're favorite players almost NEVER stream sc2 (flash did a few times, and his numbers were high)
ALSO IT'S FUKING FLASH, NO ONE ELSE WILL HAVE THAT NUMBER, I can;t believe ppl are still doubting the fame of Flash


Doubt anyone doubts his fame. Least of all BW fans. Dude got like 70k first stream back
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
May 20 2016 14:55 GMT
#59
So they just dropped a teaser for SSL Challenge.

Start time: 1 PM KST. That's 6 AM CEST. GL HF
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
May 20 2016 15:02 GMT
#60
rip ssl
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
May 20 2016 17:09 GMT
#61
On May 21 2016 00:02 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
rip ssl

I mean, I get why they're doing it. Every group has like 30 games to be played (a GSL group has at most 15). But this kind of scheduling seems extreme.

I guess with Proleague being on Mon/Tue/Sat for round 3 they couldn't really get 2 days per Challenge group?
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
May 20 2016 17:23 GMT
#62
On May 21 2016 02:09 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2016 00:02 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
rip ssl

I mean, I get why they're doing it. Every group has like 30 games to be played (a GSL group has at most 15). But this kind of scheduling seems extreme.

I guess with Proleague being on Mon/Tue/Sat for round 3 they couldn't really get 2 days per Challenge group?


I don't think it's as pronounced as you think; GSL has Code A as well.

120 guaranteed games in Ro.24 + bracket ro.16 in SSL
vs
24 Bo5s in Code A (72-96 games)
8 groups in Ro.32 (80-120 games)
ro.16 group stage
playoffs

So just a bit more than 1/2 the games up to the playoff stages probably.
Also, the current schedule has the season ending in mid-September; surely you can push that back a bit, or use Proleague broadcasting days once SPL is over?

It's especially weird given that I think SPOTV is broadcasting LCK Bo3s at 12pm on Thursdays (I think?).

All in all, I don't understand anything about this. Seems like it's shafting the Korean crowd who go to the games every evening.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-20 17:32:06
May 20 2016 17:28 GMT
#63
On May 21 2016 02:23 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2016 02:09 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2016 00:02 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
rip ssl

I mean, I get why they're doing it. Every group has like 30 games to be played (a GSL group has at most 15). But this kind of scheduling seems extreme.

I guess with Proleague being on Mon/Tue/Sat for round 3 they couldn't really get 2 days per Challenge group?


I don't think it's as pronounced as you think; GSL has Code A as well.

120 guaranteed games in Ro.24 + bracket ro.16 in SSL
vs
24 Bo5s in Code A (72-96 games)
8 groups in Ro.32 (80-120 games)
ro.16 group stage
playoffs

So just a bit more than 1/2 the games up to the playoff stages probably.
Also, the current schedule has the season ending in mid-September; surely you can push that back a bit, or use Proleague broadcasting days once SPL is over?

It's especially weird given that I think SPOTV is broadcasting LCK Bo3s at 12pm on Thursdays (I think?).

All in all, I don't understand anything about this. Seems like it's shafting the Korean crowd who go to the games every evening.

Ro16 is a group stage this season, too.

Yeah, I don't know, I was just looking for a convenient excuse, and not enough broadcast time per week was the best I came up with. I doubt they'll get much of a crowd at 1 pm on a work day. I mean I don't think the SPOTV higher-ups are too hot on SSL, but surely they could have thought of something better for the Korean audience.
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
May 20 2016 17:32 GMT
#64
On May 21 2016 02:28 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2016 02:23 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:09 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2016 00:02 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
rip ssl

I mean, I get why they're doing it. Every group has like 30 games to be played (a GSL group has at most 15). But this kind of scheduling seems extreme.

I guess with Proleague being on Mon/Tue/Sat for round 3 they couldn't really get 2 days per Challenge group?


I don't think it's as pronounced as you think; GSL has Code A as well.

120 guaranteed games in Ro.24 + bracket ro.16 in SSL
vs
24 Bo5s in Code A (72-96 games)
8 groups in Ro.32 (80-120 games)
ro.16 group stage
playoffs

So just a bit more than 1/2 the games up to the playoff stages probably.
Also, the current schedule has the season ending in mid-September; surely you can push that back a bit, or use Proleague broadcasting days once SPL is over?

It's especially weird given that I think SPOTV is broadcasting LCK Bo3s at 12pm on Thursdays (I think?).

All in all, I don't understand anything about this. Seems like it's shafting the Korean crowd who go to the games every evening.

Ro16 is a group stage this season, too.

Yeah, I don't know, I was just looking for a convenient excuse, and not enough broadcast time per week was the best I came up with. I doubt they'll get much of a crowd at 1 pm on a work day.


Oh whoops, getting mixed up with all the changes. Anyway, let's see if what it's like on Day 1. Gonna be fully on VODs for SSL then...
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-20 17:34:53
May 20 2016 17:34 GMT
#65
On May 21 2016 02:32 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2016 02:28 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:23 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:09 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2016 00:02 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
rip ssl

I mean, I get why they're doing it. Every group has like 30 games to be played (a GSL group has at most 15). But this kind of scheduling seems extreme.

I guess with Proleague being on Mon/Tue/Sat for round 3 they couldn't really get 2 days per Challenge group?


I don't think it's as pronounced as you think; GSL has Code A as well.

120 guaranteed games in Ro.24 + bracket ro.16 in SSL
vs
24 Bo5s in Code A (72-96 games)
8 groups in Ro.32 (80-120 games)
ro.16 group stage
playoffs

So just a bit more than 1/2 the games up to the playoff stages probably.
Also, the current schedule has the season ending in mid-September; surely you can push that back a bit, or use Proleague broadcasting days once SPL is over?

It's especially weird given that I think SPOTV is broadcasting LCK Bo3s at 12pm on Thursdays (I think?).

All in all, I don't understand anything about this. Seems like it's shafting the Korean crowd who go to the games every evening.

Ro16 is a group stage this season, too.

Yeah, I don't know, I was just looking for a convenient excuse, and not enough broadcast time per week was the best I came up with. I doubt they'll get much of a crowd at 1 pm on a work day.


Oh whoops, getting mixed up with all the changes. Anyway, let's see if what it's like on Day 1. Gonna be fully on VODs for SSL then...

Yeah, will be very VOD dependent. I mean I guess on the plus side I can watch some Challenge before going to university on Thursdays then. Maybe they'll even reboot their Twitch or Azubu streams.
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
May 20 2016 18:00 GMT
#66
On May 21 2016 02:34 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2016 02:32 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:28 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:23 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:09 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2016 00:02 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
rip ssl

I mean, I get why they're doing it. Every group has like 30 games to be played (a GSL group has at most 15). But this kind of scheduling seems extreme.

I guess with Proleague being on Mon/Tue/Sat for round 3 they couldn't really get 2 days per Challenge group?


I don't think it's as pronounced as you think; GSL has Code A as well.

120 guaranteed games in Ro.24 + bracket ro.16 in SSL
vs
24 Bo5s in Code A (72-96 games)
8 groups in Ro.32 (80-120 games)
ro.16 group stage
playoffs

So just a bit more than 1/2 the games up to the playoff stages probably.
Also, the current schedule has the season ending in mid-September; surely you can push that back a bit, or use Proleague broadcasting days once SPL is over?

It's especially weird given that I think SPOTV is broadcasting LCK Bo3s at 12pm on Thursdays (I think?).

All in all, I don't understand anything about this. Seems like it's shafting the Korean crowd who go to the games every evening.

Ro16 is a group stage this season, too.

Yeah, I don't know, I was just looking for a convenient excuse, and not enough broadcast time per week was the best I came up with. I doubt they'll get much of a crowd at 1 pm on a work day.


Oh whoops, getting mixed up with all the changes. Anyway, let's see if what it's like on Day 1. Gonna be fully on VODs for SSL then...

Yeah, will be very VOD dependent. I mean I guess on the plus side I can watch some Challenge before going to university on Thursdays then. Maybe they'll even reboot their Twitch or Azubu streams.


According to the LOL LCK schedule, league will be played Monday - Saturday in KR @ 8pm on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays, and unless my googling is wrong it looks like SPOTV will be broadcasting.

Looks like league has kicked SSL out of the evening time slot; unless I'm wrong, Proleague could follow...
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
May 20 2016 18:03 GMT
#67
On May 21 2016 03:00 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2016 02:34 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:32 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:28 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:23 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:09 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2016 00:02 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
rip ssl

I mean, I get why they're doing it. Every group has like 30 games to be played (a GSL group has at most 15). But this kind of scheduling seems extreme.

I guess with Proleague being on Mon/Tue/Sat for round 3 they couldn't really get 2 days per Challenge group?


I don't think it's as pronounced as you think; GSL has Code A as well.

120 guaranteed games in Ro.24 + bracket ro.16 in SSL
vs
24 Bo5s in Code A (72-96 games)
8 groups in Ro.32 (80-120 games)
ro.16 group stage
playoffs

So just a bit more than 1/2 the games up to the playoff stages probably.
Also, the current schedule has the season ending in mid-September; surely you can push that back a bit, or use Proleague broadcasting days once SPL is over?

It's especially weird given that I think SPOTV is broadcasting LCK Bo3s at 12pm on Thursdays (I think?).

All in all, I don't understand anything about this. Seems like it's shafting the Korean crowd who go to the games every evening.

Ro16 is a group stage this season, too.

Yeah, I don't know, I was just looking for a convenient excuse, and not enough broadcast time per week was the best I came up with. I doubt they'll get much of a crowd at 1 pm on a work day.


Oh whoops, getting mixed up with all the changes. Anyway, let's see if what it's like on Day 1. Gonna be fully on VODs for SSL then...

Yeah, will be very VOD dependent. I mean I guess on the plus side I can watch some Challenge before going to university on Thursdays then. Maybe they'll even reboot their Twitch or Azubu streams.


According to the LOL LCK schedule, league will be played Monday - Saturday in KR @ 8pm on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays, and unless my googling is wrong it looks like SPOTV will be broadcasting.

Looks like league has kicked SSL out of the evening time slot; unless I'm wrong, Proleague could follow...

Well GTR already tweeted that (because SPOTV got LCK broadcasting rights) PL will be on Monday, Tuesday (1 match each, 5pm KST) and Saturday (2 matches, 6pm KST). It's not quite as drastic for PL, but not great either.

SPOTV pls
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
May 20 2016 18:07 GMT
#68
On May 21 2016 03:03 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2016 03:00 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:34 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:32 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:28 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:23 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:09 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2016 00:02 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
rip ssl

I mean, I get why they're doing it. Every group has like 30 games to be played (a GSL group has at most 15). But this kind of scheduling seems extreme.

I guess with Proleague being on Mon/Tue/Sat for round 3 they couldn't really get 2 days per Challenge group?


I don't think it's as pronounced as you think; GSL has Code A as well.

120 guaranteed games in Ro.24 + bracket ro.16 in SSL
vs
24 Bo5s in Code A (72-96 games)
8 groups in Ro.32 (80-120 games)
ro.16 group stage
playoffs

So just a bit more than 1/2 the games up to the playoff stages probably.
Also, the current schedule has the season ending in mid-September; surely you can push that back a bit, or use Proleague broadcasting days once SPL is over?

It's especially weird given that I think SPOTV is broadcasting LCK Bo3s at 12pm on Thursdays (I think?).

All in all, I don't understand anything about this. Seems like it's shafting the Korean crowd who go to the games every evening.

Ro16 is a group stage this season, too.

Yeah, I don't know, I was just looking for a convenient excuse, and not enough broadcast time per week was the best I came up with. I doubt they'll get much of a crowd at 1 pm on a work day.


Oh whoops, getting mixed up with all the changes. Anyway, let's see if what it's like on Day 1. Gonna be fully on VODs for SSL then...

Yeah, will be very VOD dependent. I mean I guess on the plus side I can watch some Challenge before going to university on Thursdays then. Maybe they'll even reboot their Twitch or Azubu streams.


According to the LOL LCK schedule, league will be played Monday - Saturday in KR @ 8pm on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays, and unless my googling is wrong it looks like SPOTV will be broadcasting.

Looks like league has kicked SSL out of the evening time slot; unless I'm wrong, Proleague could follow...

Well GTR already tweeted that (because SPOTV got LCK broadcasting rights) PL will be on Monday, Tuesday (1 match each, 5pm KST) and Saturday (2 matches, 6pm KST). It's not quite as drastic for PL, but not great either.

SPOTV pls


If there's any justice in the world, Reality vs Soulkey v2 please
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-20 18:11:58
May 20 2016 18:11 GMT
#69
On May 21 2016 03:07 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2016 03:03 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2016 03:00 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:34 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:32 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:28 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:23 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On May 21 2016 02:09 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2016 00:02 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
rip ssl

I mean, I get why they're doing it. Every group has like 30 games to be played (a GSL group has at most 15). But this kind of scheduling seems extreme.

I guess with Proleague being on Mon/Tue/Sat for round 3 they couldn't really get 2 days per Challenge group?


I don't think it's as pronounced as you think; GSL has Code A as well.

120 guaranteed games in Ro.24 + bracket ro.16 in SSL
vs
24 Bo5s in Code A (72-96 games)
8 groups in Ro.32 (80-120 games)
ro.16 group stage
playoffs

So just a bit more than 1/2 the games up to the playoff stages probably.
Also, the current schedule has the season ending in mid-September; surely you can push that back a bit, or use Proleague broadcasting days once SPL is over?

It's especially weird given that I think SPOTV is broadcasting LCK Bo3s at 12pm on Thursdays (I think?).

All in all, I don't understand anything about this. Seems like it's shafting the Korean crowd who go to the games every evening.

Ro16 is a group stage this season, too.

Yeah, I don't know, I was just looking for a convenient excuse, and not enough broadcast time per week was the best I came up with. I doubt they'll get much of a crowd at 1 pm on a work day.


Oh whoops, getting mixed up with all the changes. Anyway, let's see if what it's like on Day 1. Gonna be fully on VODs for SSL then...

Yeah, will be very VOD dependent. I mean I guess on the plus side I can watch some Challenge before going to university on Thursdays then. Maybe they'll even reboot their Twitch or Azubu streams.


According to the LOL LCK schedule, league will be played Monday - Saturday in KR @ 8pm on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays, and unless my googling is wrong it looks like SPOTV will be broadcasting.

Looks like league has kicked SSL out of the evening time slot; unless I'm wrong, Proleague could follow...

Well GTR already tweeted that (because SPOTV got LCK broadcasting rights) PL will be on Monday, Tuesday (1 match each, 5pm KST) and Saturday (2 matches, 6pm KST). It's not quite as drastic for PL, but not great either.

SPOTV pls


If there's any justice in the world, Reality vs Soulkey v2 please

So either we need a ZvZ that goes into a 1-hour late game lurker/BL stalemate, a super late game TvP that somehow ends up in a draw after a turret snipes the last interceptor on the last carrier, or a late game ZvT where the Zerg refuses to commit into liberators and the Terran refuses to move out.
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