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Life and Bbyong charged with match-fixing - Page 4

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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
April 21 2016 07:36 GMT
#61
and so the life drama ends
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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20-Minute-Jackal
Profile Joined May 2015
United States336 Posts
April 21 2016 07:39 GMT
#62
On April 21 2016 16:36 Makro wrote:
and so the life drama ends

Aren't these possible new charges against Life, in addition to the charges for match fixing in Proleague? If so, Life would have match fixed in both Proleague and the Kespa Cup. If anything, it seems like all new drama for Life.
Darkn3ssFallz
Profile Joined April 2013
Australia114 Posts
April 21 2016 07:39 GMT
#63
On April 21 2016 16:34 lichter wrote:
I really wanna know where the sword is and if Life has smelted it for more gambling money

Savage.
[SKT1.Rain] is the Postman Protoss, because by.Sun or by.Rain he delivers.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 21 2016 07:40 GMT
#64
On April 21 2016 16:36 bduddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 16:32 opisska wrote:
Maybe you will call it heresy, but I am not really too offended with someone throwing a game in a series they won at the end anyway. It doesn't really change anything while allowing a player to get a nice side income.

Can you ban people for making posts this incredibly stupid?

I don't find anything stupid on it. Life won the match with throwing a map here and there. As long as it doesn't affect the final result I am OK with it.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 21 2016 07:41 GMT
#65
On April 21 2016 16:39 20-Minute-Jackal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 16:36 Makro wrote:
and so the life drama ends

Aren't these possible new charges against Life, in addition to the charges for match fixing in Proleague? If so, Life would have match fixed in both Proleague and the Kespa Cup. If anything, it seems like all new drama for Life.

The "Life match fixing in Proleague" was all speculation. There was one game against Solar that was mildly suspicious, but most likely these two games are what he was arrested for. He would have been investigated thoroughly at this point and if he had match fixed at other times it would have been included in the report.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 21 2016 07:41 GMT
#66
On April 21 2016 16:40 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 16:36 bduddy wrote:
On April 21 2016 16:32 opisska wrote:
Maybe you will call it heresy, but I am not really too offended with someone throwing a game in a series they won at the end anyway. It doesn't really change anything while allowing a player to get a nice side income.

Can you ban people for making posts this incredibly stupid?

I don't find anything stupid on it. Life won the match with throwing a map here and there. As long as it doesn't affect the final result I am OK with it.


Do you feel ok about point shaving, then?
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 21 2016 07:43 GMT
#67
On April 21 2016 16:40 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 16:36 bduddy wrote:
On April 21 2016 16:32 opisska wrote:
Maybe you will call it heresy, but I am not really too offended with someone throwing a game in a series they won at the end anyway. It doesn't really change anything while allowing a player to get a nice side income.

Can you ban people for making posts this incredibly stupid?

I don't find anything stupid on it. Life won the match with throwing a map here and there. As long as it doesn't affect the final result I am OK with it.

I am under no circumstances ok with it. It's blatantly throwing away competitive integrity. Some small part of me does think it makes a difference somehow, but still
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
April 21 2016 07:45 GMT
#68
On April 21 2016 15:56 abuse wrote:
I don't understand what a person is thinking where he match fixes and then turns himself in.

If you have the decency to turn yourself in then you should've had the decency to not do it in the first place.


Yes, because the inner decency of all human beings is a black and white construct that cannot change over time.

I'm really sad to hear that GSL is now being manipulated as well. Proleague matches have been fixed on occasion for a long time, but this is the first time I remember hearing about a Code S matchfix.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 21 2016 07:45 GMT
#69
On April 21 2016 16:41 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 16:40 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 21 2016 16:36 bduddy wrote:
On April 21 2016 16:32 opisska wrote:
Maybe you will call it heresy, but I am not really too offended with someone throwing a game in a series they won at the end anyway. It doesn't really change anything while allowing a player to get a nice side income.

Can you ban people for making posts this incredibly stupid?

I don't find anything stupid on it. Life won the match with throwing a map here and there. As long as it doesn't affect the final result I am OK with it.


Do you feel ok about point shaving, then?

What is point shaving?
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 21 2016 07:46 GMT
#70
On April 21 2016 16:45 Nuclease wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 15:56 abuse wrote:
I don't understand what a person is thinking where he match fixes and then turns himself in.

If you have the decency to turn yourself in then you should've had the decency to not do it in the first place.


Yes, because the inner decency of all human beings is a black and white construct that cannot change over time.

I'm really sad to hear that GSL is now being manipulated as well. Proleague matches have been fixed on occasion for a long time, but this is the first time I remember hearing about a Code S matchfix.

If it makes you feel better it was in Code A
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 21 2016 07:46 GMT
#71
On April 21 2016 16:34 lichter wrote:
I really wanna know where the sword is and if Life has smelted it for more gambling money


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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
April 21 2016 07:46 GMT
#72
no names?
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CakeSauc3
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1437 Posts
April 21 2016 07:47 GMT
#73
Wow, such a sad way for this to end
20-Minute-Jackal
Profile Joined May 2015
United States336 Posts
April 21 2016 07:47 GMT
#74
On April 21 2016 16:41 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 16:39 20-Minute-Jackal wrote:
On April 21 2016 16:36 Makro wrote:
and so the life drama ends

Aren't these possible new charges against Life, in addition to the charges for match fixing in Proleague? If so, Life would have match fixed in both Proleague and the Kespa Cup. If anything, it seems like all new drama for Life.

The "Life match fixing in Proleague" was all speculation. There was one game against Solar that was mildly suspicious, but most likely these two games are what he was arrested for. He would have been investigated thoroughly at this point and if he had match fixed at other times it would have been included in the report.

Ahh, I see. We haven't known for which matches Life was arrested for yet. But it seems probable now it was for the Kespa Cup matches.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 21 2016 07:47 GMT
#75
I knew this was never gonna have a happy ending for Life. it was so obvious that he was guilty of something, but damn for some reason I had a shred of hope that he didn't do it. Fuck
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Comeback_SC2
Profile Joined April 2016
6 Posts
April 21 2016 07:49 GMT
#76
Well...time for me to stop being a quiet reader i feel.
Life is my age and I have been following and loving that kid since zenex days, and even though Rain became my favorite player ever since his wcs asia games vs. parting, i always looked up to life, as he just felt like someone so special to me. Part of this is because his first incredible run for like half a year i believe was during a time in which i was very ill, while starcraft was something i could hold on and look foward to playing as soon as i got better. Also very sad for Bbyong, if the reason is, as guessed prior, him having to pay for eye surgery, i really hope kespa gives him a second chance, as he seemed to be in huge troubles.

I don't know if this is the right time or place to do so, but as this is the first time i write about this, i would like to thank everyone active on TL, or active in the SC2 scene in general for helping me to get through a lot of bad times and helping me to recover from an illness i may otherwise not have been able to recover from. Sorry for my bad english and thank you all.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 21 2016 07:51 GMT
#77
On April 21 2016 16:49 Comeback_SC2 wrote:
Well...time for me to stop being a quiet reader i feel.
Life is my age and I have been following and loving that kid since zenex days, and even though Rain became my favorite player ever since his wcs asia games vs. parting, i always looked up to life, as he just felt like someone so special to me. Part of this is because his first incredible run for like half a year i believe was during a time in which i was very ill, while starcraft was something i could hold on and look foward to playing as soon as i got better. Also very sad for Bbyong, if the reason is, as guessed prior, him having to pay for eye surgery, i really hope kespa gives him a second chance, as he seemed to be in huge troubles.

I don't know if this is the right time or place to do so, but as this is the first time i write about this, i would like to thank everyone active on TL, or active in the SC2 scene in general for helping me to get through a lot of bad times and helping me to recover from an illness i may otherwise not have been able to recover from. Sorry for my bad english and thank you all.

Well I'm a bit happier now. Thanks man
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
April 21 2016 07:52 GMT
#78
On April 21 2016 16:14 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 16:12 Charoisaur wrote:
When will this shit finally stop..?


Increasing the prize pool would probably help, considering you get 7 times more the money for throwing a match/game than actually winning the tournament itself.


Make progamers more aware of the consequences of such actions.

Protect progamers more than what is already done with fair conditions, better salaries, etc.

Better prize pool would also help I guess.

Protect progamers who are approached to match-fix.

Better surveillance on who is offering these deals and cracking down on betting.



Pretty terrible all around.
maru lover forever
fealx
Profile Joined September 2014
Germany376 Posts
April 21 2016 07:53 GMT
#79
On April 21 2016 16:40 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 16:36 bduddy wrote:
On April 21 2016 16:32 opisska wrote:
Maybe you will call it heresy, but I am not really too offended with someone throwing a game in a series they won at the end anyway. It doesn't really change anything while allowing a player to get a nice side income.

Can you ban people for making posts this incredibly stupid?

I don't find anything stupid on it. Life won the match with throwing a map here and there. As long as it doesn't affect the final result I am OK with it.

the Naniwa Probe-Rushing thing was "ok" because that match didnt make any sense. Real matchfixing like in this case is never ok, even if the outcome is the same.
ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
April 21 2016 07:53 GMT
#80
fuck this asshole for stopping Mvp from getting the G5L

you don't get to ruin something that cool to start your own legend and then do something this shitty

fuck.
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