EPTThe punishments seem very appropriate and about right.
PRIME match-fixers given suspended sentences - Page 6
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
The punishments seem very appropriate and about right. | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On April 03 2016 22:03 weikor wrote: Well considering that starcraft was their life, losing their reputation and the ability to compete is a pretty huge punishment. Yeah perm ban from e-sports (if it holds) is more than enough. Ppl asking for more are insane lol. I thought I was tough on cheaters... ha | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On April 04 2016 01:30 TRaFFiC wrote: Yeah perm ban from e-sports (if it holds) is more than enough. Ppl asking for more are insane lol. I thought I was tough on cheaters... ha Well, it's not enough because they stole money. The money of those who were betting. | ||
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Apoteosis
Chile820 Posts
On April 04 2016 01:33 Shield wrote: Well, it's not enough because they stole money. The money of those who were betting. gambling is illegal in korea. arguing that they should get more punishment because of they "stole" money from the betting ppl is a pertty idiotic argument. it's like someone complaining because your pot was tea instead of real marijuana. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 04 2016 01:33 Shield wrote: Well, it's not enough because they stole money. The money of those who were betting. Aside from the already widely pointed out fact that any kind of betting is illegal in Korea, it's important to notice that the players themselves didn't "steal" money by match-fixing ; however, the people who payed them to matchfix did "steal" money through betting on a match they fixed. | ||
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Fran_
United States1024 Posts
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DonDomingo
504 Posts
On April 04 2016 01:33 Shield wrote: Well, it's not enough because they stole money. The money of those who were betting. lmao if you actually think this, I would highly recommend you seek professional help. User was warned for this post | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On April 04 2016 01:52 Apoteosis wrote: gambling is illegal in korea. arguing that they should get more punishment because of they "stole" money from the betting ppl is a pertty idiotic argument. it's like someone complaining because your pot was tea instead of real marijuana. I don't care if gambling is illegal in Korea. There are people outside Korea who bet on matches. How would you feel if you bet on player A when player A played to lose? It's not nice but I guess kids like you go to their mom for money rather than see how hard it is to earn some. User was warned for this post | ||
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
On April 04 2016 06:13 Shield wrote: I don't care if gambling is illegal in Korea. There are people outside Korea who bet on matches. How would you feel if you bet on player A when player A played to lose? It's not nice but I guess kids like you go to their mom for money rather than see how hard it is to earn some. Might be the dumbest post I've ever read. Why should a Korean criminal court care about a foreigners betting money on eSports? If your betting on eSports you have nothing but yourself to blame for blowing your money. Matter of fact if you gamble on ANYTHING you have no one but yourself to blame for losing that money. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On April 04 2016 06:13 Shield wrote: I don't care if gambling is illegal in Korea. There are people outside Korea who bet on matches. How would you feel if you bet on player A when player A played to lose? It's not nice but I guess kids like you go to their mom for money rather than see how hard it is to earn some. User was warned for this post The fact that what you bet on might not be fair competition (through matchfixing, doping, corruption, etc) is parts of the risks you accept when you bet on something. And I don't believe moms have anything to do with that fact. | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On April 04 2016 09:22 MaCRo.gg wrote: Might be the dumbest post I've ever read. Why should a Korean criminal court care about a foreigners betting money on eSports? If your betting on eSports you have nothing but yourself to blame for blowing your money. Matter of fact if you gamble on ANYTHING you have no one but yourself to blame for losing that money. Umm not completely true. In a world where no betting is tampered with (i.e no matchfixing) your claim is correct. But you certainly do have someone else to blame if you lose money because someone else tampered with the bet. That's the whole reason why matches have their bets voided, to protect the betting service in the event that a situation was fixed (among other reasons). It does suck for the people who lost money in matches that were fixed but bets weren't voided but nothing can be done about it, moving on is the only option. That doesn't however mean someone else can't be blamed for you losing money | ||
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Richasliodo
18 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
If you do something illegal, you will be punished regardless of whether your victims were doing something illegal as well. Just like you'll still get punishment if you're caught stealing from a thief. Theft is theft regardless of how you feel about the victims. | ||
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waiting2Bbanned
United States154 Posts
I mean Life's been in jail for months now, does it matter that they get suspended sentences, but are being held in jail for let's say a year?? It's like releasing a guy from Gitmo after 20 years with a "sorry, we got the wrong guy, your record is clear, move along, good luck!" To me the idea you could get even a day in jail for cheating on a video game is pretty insane, but I guess ppl will get outraged about anything these days and ready to lynch.. | ||
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Elentos
55510 Posts
On April 04 2016 21:02 waiting2Bbanned wrote: I mean Life's been in jail for months now That's just speculation. It's way more likely he's been a free man for weeks and we just don't hear anything. | ||
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waiting2Bbanned
United States154 Posts
That's just speculation. It's way more likely he's been a free man for weeks and we just don't hear anything. Sooo.. did he lose his phone, then..? | ||
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
On April 04 2016 11:03 chipmonklord17 wrote: Umm not completely true. In a world where no betting is tampered with (i.e no matchfixing) your claim is correct. But you certainly do have someone else to blame if you lose money because someone else tampered with the bet. That's the whole reason why matches have their bets voided, to protect the betting service in the event that a situation was fixed (among other reasons). It does suck for the people who lost money in matches that were fixed but bets weren't voided but nothing can be done about it, moving on is the only option. That doesn't however mean someone else can't be blamed for you losing money If sports betting is like sex, eSports betting is hiring a hooker. If you get an STD, you have more blame on yourself than the hooker. | ||
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waiting2Bbanned
United States154 Posts
If sports betting is like sex, eSports betting is hiring a hooker. If you get an STD, you have more blame on yourself than the hooker. hmm.. building on that analogy then, I'm curious what betting on soccer - which is being governed by FIFA, so corrupt that they can't find one single person in there who hasn't been taking bribes to put in charge - would be like..? | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On April 04 2016 18:02 opisska wrote: Just man up and accept that predicting which game will be fixed for whom is an integral part of the betting process instead of complaining about "losing money". So, if you follow your own logic, you shouldn't be too upset if a burglar steals from your house. It's an integral part of life sometimes. Really, this is the dumbest argument I've heard. I betted only £20-40 back in WoL, I was never into gambling, and I haven't betted since then. I did it because I wanted to try my luck, so I don't consider myself a gambler. However, match-fixing shouldn't be part of betting's risk. Fairness has to be ensured. Whether it's smart to gamble or not is irrelevant here (I don't approve it even if I did it once with a very small amount of money). Edit: In other words, environment has to be fair. After that, it's gamblers' fault if they lose money because THEY made the wrong decision. Not someone else who decided to lose a game. | ||
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