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The Most Loathsome PatchZergs of All Time - Page 10

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Achilles.Sc2
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
Germany11 Posts
March 18 2016 07:19 GMT
#181
no just ... no.. i cant disagree that these guys are patchzergs, however this article is way too mean... these guys are/were hard working, starcraft-loving players.. they don't deserve such humiliation..

really expected more love from TL for the players..
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
March 18 2016 07:27 GMT
#182
On March 18 2016 03:24 Silvana wrote:
I had the bless of not being a Starcraft fan during the BL-infestor era. And I had a lot of fun reading this article :D Well done TL!

When is the PatchToss one coming?

And I'm very curious how you will manage to write the PatchTerran list to finish the series without getting a lot of flak for incriminating the immaculate race.


They can't because they would have to include TaeJa and no one else
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 18 2016 07:34 GMT
#183
On March 18 2016 16:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 03:24 Silvana wrote:
I had the bless of not being a Starcraft fan during the BL-infestor era. And I had a lot of fun reading this article :D Well done TL!

When is the PatchToss one coming?

And I'm very curious how you will manage to write the PatchTerran list to finish the series without getting a lot of flak for incriminating the immaculate race.


They can't because they would have to include TaeJa and no one else

Damn patch terrans, what about gomtvt and the fact that Mvp won pretty much all his titles during that era? Ouch :/
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4553 Posts
March 18 2016 07:35 GMT
#184
On March 18 2016 16:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 16:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On March 18 2016 03:24 Silvana wrote:
I had the bless of not being a Starcraft fan during the BL-infestor era. And I had a lot of fun reading this article :D Well done TL!

When is the PatchToss one coming?

And I'm very curious how you will manage to write the PatchTerran list to finish the series without getting a lot of flak for incriminating the immaculate race.


They can't because they would have to include TaeJa and no one else

Damn patch terrans, what about gomtvt and the fact that Mvp won pretty much all his titles during that era? Ouch :/


GomTvT wasn't because of PatchTerrans, it was mostly because of ImbalancedMapPoolTerrans.

Also MVP legit being a very good player, of course.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 18 2016 07:58 GMT
#185
On March 18 2016 16:35 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 16:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 18 2016 16:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On March 18 2016 03:24 Silvana wrote:
I had the bless of not being a Starcraft fan during the BL-infestor era. And I had a lot of fun reading this article :D Well done TL!

When is the PatchToss one coming?

And I'm very curious how you will manage to write the PatchTerran list to finish the series without getting a lot of flak for incriminating the immaculate race.


They can't because they would have to include TaeJa and no one else

Damn patch terrans, what about gomtvt and the fact that Mvp won pretty much all his titles during that era? Ouch :/


GomTvT wasn't because of PatchTerrans, it was mostly because of ImbalancedMapPoolTerrans.

Also MVP legit being a very good player, of course.

The result is the same. And yes Mvp surely a great player, just saying that gomtvt surely didn't make it harder
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
March 18 2016 08:14 GMT
#186
True evil never dies...
The prophecy foretells that Sniper will come back one day to ruin another GSL final.
moo...for DRG
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 18 2016 08:26 GMT
#187
On March 18 2016 16:06 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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On March 18 2016 14:16 Big J wrote:
On March 18 2016 13:58 lestye wrote:
On March 18 2016 12:05 Doodsmack wrote:
Blizzard's lack of response to BL/infestor is their worst move with SC2.

I think Swarm Hosts were worse.... I know BL/infestor was super overpowered and broken, but swarm hosts were just downright EMBARRASSING.

Is this the part where everybody gets to tell what they hate the most?
I think Warpgates, Forcefields, Dark Templar and Oracles are still all worse and ruind more games every season than BL/Infestor and Swarm Hosts ruined during the whole existance of SC2.

That's only true because a typical BL/Infestor or SH game usually took around 5 hours to be done. Simply no time to ruin more games.
Quality > quantity anyway, BL/Infestor and SH easily had a higher level of destruction to the beauty that is sc2 gameplay.

Other than that, Dts are ok i think

Dts are too fast. They are victims of Blizzards policy "faster = better = enjoyable". Everything has to be faster! Now we have even faster start of the game itself

But this is not the topic to discuss this Anyway, Protoss BS games are not all the time the same and are faster. Thus they are less annoying than watching an endless stream of free units
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
March 18 2016 08:28 GMT
#188
On March 18 2016 12:36 ZenithM wrote:
I remember those days when I used to troll TL with the phrase "sick new up-and-coming talented Zerg player" and variations. The thing is, you could know that I was obviously trolling, but you can't really ban a guy for praising a player, so I got away most of the time with this. Most of the time ;D.


Lol yeah, there was a period of time with a lot of those talented zergs popping up likes mushrooms indeed :D
Revolutionist fan
SnowfaLL
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada730 Posts
March 18 2016 08:30 GMT
#189
On March 18 2016 16:19 Achilles.Sc2 wrote:
no just ... no.. i cant disagree that these guys are patchzergs, however this article is way too mean... these guys are/were hard working, starcraft-loving players.. they don't deserve such humiliation..

really expected more love from TL for the players..


Now you know how literally every Protoss player not named Rain feels throughout the whole SC2 lifespan.. getting no respect from zerg-biased GSL casters bashing how "easy" of a race it is to play. Even creating a show called "Imbalance" to talk about how easy protoss is? Yeah.. thats not going to sway the opinion of new players.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
March 18 2016 08:34 GMT
#190
On March 18 2016 17:30 SnowfaLL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 16:19 Achilles.Sc2 wrote:
no just ... no.. i cant disagree that these guys are patchzergs, however this article is way too mean... these guys are/were hard working, starcraft-loving players.. they don't deserve such humiliation..

really expected more love from TL for the players..


Now you know how literally every Protoss player not named Rain feels throughout the whole SC2 lifespan.. getting no respect from zerg-biased GSL casters bashing how "easy" of a race it is to play. Even creating a show called "Imbalance" to talk about how easy protoss is? Yeah.. thats not going to sway the opinion of new players.

Even Rain was bashed No P player was/is save
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
March 18 2016 09:01 GMT
#191
On March 18 2016 16:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 16:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On March 18 2016 03:24 Silvana wrote:
I had the bless of not being a Starcraft fan during the BL-infestor era. And I had a lot of fun reading this article :D Well done TL!

When is the PatchToss one coming?

And I'm very curious how you will manage to write the PatchTerran list to finish the series without getting a lot of flak for incriminating the immaculate race.


They can't because they would have to include TaeJa and no one else

Damn patch terrans, what about gomtvt and the fact that Mvp won pretty much all his titles during that era? Ouch :/


Did you really compare TaeJa and MVP ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 18 2016 09:04 GMT
#192
On March 18 2016 18:01 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 16:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 18 2016 16:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On March 18 2016 03:24 Silvana wrote:
I had the bless of not being a Starcraft fan during the BL-infestor era. And I had a lot of fun reading this article :D Well done TL!

When is the PatchToss one coming?

And I'm very curious how you will manage to write the PatchTerran list to finish the series without getting a lot of flak for incriminating the immaculate race.


They can't because they would have to include TaeJa and no one else

Damn patch terrans, what about gomtvt and the fact that Mvp won pretty much all his titles during that era? Ouch :/


Did you really compare TaeJa and MVP ?

No i implied that Mvp's success was in an era where terrans were rather strong.
Most people don't seem to remember that. (no i don't want to say that he wasn't great, still a little overhyped though)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-18 09:08:09
March 18 2016 09:07 GMT
#193
On March 18 2016 18:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 18:01 FFW_Rude wrote:
On March 18 2016 16:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 18 2016 16:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On March 18 2016 03:24 Silvana wrote:
I had the bless of not being a Starcraft fan during the BL-infestor era. And I had a lot of fun reading this article :D Well done TL!

When is the PatchToss one coming?

And I'm very curious how you will manage to write the PatchTerran list to finish the series without getting a lot of flak for incriminating the immaculate race.


They can't because they would have to include TaeJa and no one else

Damn patch terrans, what about gomtvt and the fact that Mvp won pretty much all his titles during that era? Ouch :/


Did you really compare TaeJa and MVP ?

No i implied that Mvp's success was in an era where terrans were rather strong.
Most people don't seem to remember that. (no i don't want to say that he wasn't great, still a little overhyped though)


Oh ok my bad He also won when Terran was not OP as fuck though. Or am i blinded by wrong memories ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-18 09:26:03
March 18 2016 09:13 GMT
#194
On March 18 2016 18:07 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 18:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 18 2016 18:01 FFW_Rude wrote:
On March 18 2016 16:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 18 2016 16:27 FFW_Rude wrote:
On March 18 2016 03:24 Silvana wrote:
I had the bless of not being a Starcraft fan during the BL-infestor era. And I had a lot of fun reading this article :D Well done TL!

When is the PatchToss one coming?

And I'm very curious how you will manage to write the PatchTerran list to finish the series without getting a lot of flak for incriminating the immaculate race.


They can't because they would have to include TaeJa and no one else

Damn patch terrans, what about gomtvt and the fact that Mvp won pretty much all his titles during that era? Ouch :/


Did you really compare TaeJa and MVP ?

No i implied that Mvp's success was in an era where terrans were rather strong.
Most people don't seem to remember that. (no i don't want to say that he wasn't great, still a little overhyped though)


Oh ok my bad He also won when Terran was not OP as fuck though. Or am i blinded by wrong memories ?

No. He made a GSL finals when Protoss was doing well (Ro8 was 5P 3T) and one during BL/infestor (which he barely lost, RIP G5L), he also won an IEM during BL/infestor which included like half the people on this patchzerg list.

And he still had like 3 good runs in HotS, and all of that was long after he was diagnosed with Cervical Kyphosis and Carpal Tunnel. So he was still doing things when Terran wasn't OP even though his body was a trainwreck.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 18 2016 09:15 GMT
#195
I don't wanted to say that he only won in gomtvt times, but iirc 2 gsl wins were during that time?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-18 09:24:05
March 18 2016 09:21 GMT
#196
On March 18 2016 18:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I don't wanted to say that he only won in gomtvt times, but iirc 2 gsl wins were during that time?

Technically but one of his GSL wins was the GSL WC which didn't fall to GomTvT race distributions.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
March 18 2016 09:22 GMT
#197
Oh ok i thought i became senile :p
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 18 2016 09:23 GMT
#198
On March 18 2016 18:21 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 18:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I don't wanted to say that he only won in gomtvt times, but iirc 2 gsl wins were during that time?

Technically 3 but one of his GSL wins was the GSL WC which didn't fall to GomTvT race distributions.

I don't count that one as GSL tbh :D
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
March 18 2016 09:24 GMT
#199
On March 18 2016 18:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 18:21 Elentos wrote:
On March 18 2016 18:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I don't wanted to say that he only won in gomtvt times, but iirc 2 gsl wins were during that time?

Technically 3 but one of his GSL wins was the GSL WC which didn't fall to GomTvT race distributions.

I don't count that one as GSL tbh :D

He got a pin for it. If you get a pin it counts!
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 18 2016 09:26 GMT
#200
On March 18 2016 18:24 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 18:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 18 2016 18:21 Elentos wrote:
On March 18 2016 18:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I don't wanted to say that he only won in gomtvt times, but iirc 2 gsl wins were during that time?

Technically 3 but one of his GSL wins was the GSL WC which didn't fall to GomTvT race distributions.

I don't count that one as GSL tbh :D

He got a pin for it. If you get a pin it counts!

Haha i guess. Technically it counts, but deep inside we all know Mvp only won 3 GSLs
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
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