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The Most Loathsome PatchZergs of All Time - Page 12

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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 18 2016 14:18 GMT
#221
According to his liquipedia page JonnyRecco beat Snute and a bunch of Koreans in various online Cups in 2014. #notapatchzerg
JeffKim
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Korea (South)36 Posts
March 18 2016 14:41 GMT
#222
On March 18 2016 23:18 Big J wrote:
According to his liquipedia page JonnyRecco beat Snute and a bunch of Koreans in various online Cups in 2014. #notapatchzerg
You're not wrong.
Lunchador
Profile Joined April 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-18 14:43:49
March 18 2016 14:43 GMT
#223
Dat Times New Roman, tho...
Defender of truth, justice, and noontime meals!
Ensiferum8
Profile Joined March 2014
Canada103 Posts
March 18 2016 16:16 GMT
#224
On March 18 2016 07:54 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2016 07:47 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 18 2016 07:46 stuchiu wrote:
On March 18 2016 07:45 Charoisaur wrote:
On March 18 2016 03:27 stuchiu wrote:
On March 18 2016 03:25 blade55555 wrote:
Can we get a PatchToss and PatchTerran list plox.


PatchToss: Arthur

PatchTerran: INnoVation, Flash, Marineking


Also Maru


Maru was too good during blink era. to count.

wait... the other ones were serious?


The only meta that was bad for Inno that he did well in briefly was BL/infestor.

Flash/Inno peak in 2013 coincided with Hellbat and MMMM. Once those fell off he got beat by duckdeok.

Flash/Inno peak in 2014 coincided with the buff of thors, rebuff of mines, and nerf of Blink Era. They fall after Zerg/Protoss get used to meta.

Flash/Inno peak in 2015 coincided with nerf of SH, rise of mech.
How can someone with your reputation on TL says bullshit stuff like that?

Unless your definition of Patch Xrace is different than mine, what you just said is outright stupid. IMO, IMO,a patch terran/zerg/toss is a player that does great when is race is OP, and poorly when is race is balance.. If your defnition of a patch player is someone doing well after a buff to his race, then i apologize, you are right, but i doubt thats the definition most people would say.

But if your definition of a Patch player is actually the one underlined, then, you are just soo wrong that even your god awfull top 15 of HotS woudl look great beside it.

I agree terrans were OP early hots because of hellbats. But then, terrans were the weakest race for almost a year, and their representation/performance were so low it was never seen before in the history of sc2. Can you blame Inno for doing poorly? when almost every other terrans in Korea (except Maru) were doing poorly too?

But the stupidest point about your comment is Inno doing well after they revert the WM's nerf. Terrans were never OP, even, in 2015 they were arguably the worst race, close to being UP:

In 2015:

FOR 21 PREMIER TOURNAMENTS (42 finalist)

8 TERRANS in finals. 4 wins 4 loss = 19% (far from the 33% perfect balance)
18 ZERGS in finals. 6 wins 12 loss = 43% (way above 33%)
16 TOSS in finals. 11 wins 5 loss = 38% (even less than zergs)

And Innovation was performing incredibly well in 2015, in PL and individual league.

Hows that a patchterran? Comming from a TL writer, i expected at least a bit of credibility....

P.S: If your definition of PatchTerran is different than mine, then i understand.

And if you were trolling (didnt read the whole thread), im sorry, you really, really got me.
WCS is a shitty joke, with racist rules. Support players who deserves it instead of foreigner scrubs who dont work half as much as koreans. JUN TAEYANG IS THE BEST <3
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
March 18 2016 16:21 GMT
#225
This is TL, every terran is a patch terran except Taeja and mvp.

And we all secretly agree with it.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 18 2016 16:22 GMT
#226
We have different definitions
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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
March 18 2016 16:26 GMT
#227
On March 18 2016 17:28 Salteador Neo wrote:
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On March 18 2016 12:36 ZenithM wrote:
I remember those days when I used to troll TL with the phrase "sick new up-and-coming talented Zerg player" and variations. The thing is, you could know that I was obviously trolling, but you can't really ban a guy for praising a player, so I got away most of the time with this. Most of the time ;D.


Lol yeah, there was a period of time with a lot of those talented zergs popping up likes mushrooms indeed :D

The time wheere "Amazing fungal" turned into an oxymoron.
Kazahk
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States385 Posts
March 18 2016 18:09 GMT
#228
Didn't the term patchzerg come around the time of the queen ground range buff? idk when it first started getting thrown around it didnt make much sense to me no much less so now as it is applied to any zerg who used bl infestor.
Rngesus blessed me with a tooth half, then shunned me with a spinach roll.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19393 Posts
March 18 2016 18:51 GMT
#229
G.O.A.T. Patch Zerg
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-18 18:54:34
March 18 2016 18:54 GMT
#230
On March 19 2016 03:51 BisuDagger wrote:
G.O.A.T. Patch Zerg
[image loading]

haha i see what you did there
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 18 2016 18:55 GMT
#231
On March 19 2016 03:51 BisuDagger wrote:
G.O.A.T. Patch Zerg
[image loading]

what about that time when Artosis called the generation of 2hatch muta abusers the OG patchzergs
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19393 Posts
March 18 2016 18:56 GMT
#232
On March 19 2016 03:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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On March 19 2016 03:51 BisuDagger wrote:
G.O.A.T. Patch Zerg
[image loading]

haha i see what you did there

I never like to take credit something amazing created by someone else, however I'm always willing to accept blame. Here's the reference: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/90341-pics-hwaseung-oz-new-recruits
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-18 19:00:46
March 18 2016 19:00 GMT
#233
On March 19 2016 03:09 Kazahk wrote:
Didn't the term patchzerg come around the time of the queen ground range buff? idk when it first started getting thrown around it didnt make much sense to me no much less so now as it is applied to any zerg who used bl infestor.

BL-infestor is an army composition that is intrinsically tied with the queen range buff, at least as far as the timeline in SC2's history is concerned. Gameplay-wise, Zerg got very good at early game defense, which allowed them to pool resources much faster and reach that army composition too quickly for the other races to deal with efficiently.
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
March 18 2016 20:37 GMT
#234
Good piece, good piece. Sniper is the devil.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
March 18 2016 20:44 GMT
#235
I think Sniper got too much hate compared to other patch zergs because he made Eve cry
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 18 2016 23:11 GMT
#236
On March 19 2016 03:56 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 03:54 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On March 19 2016 03:51 BisuDagger wrote:
G.O.A.T. Patch Zerg
[image loading]

haha i see what you did there

I never like to take credit something amazing created by someone else, however I'm always willing to accept blame. Here's the reference: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/90341-pics-hwaseung-oz-new-recruits

Oh i know where it is coming from I wasn't part of the starcraft community back then but i did my fair bit of research after falling in love with JD
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8324 Posts
March 18 2016 23:23 GMT
#237
On March 18 2016 03:24 Silvana wrote:
When is the PatchToss one coming?


I don't think we need an entire article about Seed.

+ Show Spoiler +
Kidding. I'm just still bitter about GSL 2012 Season 3
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13022 Posts
March 18 2016 23:33 GMT
#238
On March 19 2016 04:00 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2016 03:09 Kazahk wrote:
Didn't the term patchzerg come around the time of the queen ground range buff? idk when it first started getting thrown around it didnt make much sense to me no much less so now as it is applied to any zerg who used bl infestor.

BL-infestor is an army composition that is intrinsically tied with the queen range buff, at least as far as the timeline in SC2's history is concerned. Gameplay-wise, Zerg got very good at early game defense, which allowed them to pool resources much faster and reach that army composition too quickly for the other races to deal with efficiently.

That plus infestor's fungals were instant so it was incredibly easy on the zerg side and hard on the other side (especially terrans because of marines), the easy holds early game and the OP+easy composition lategame allowed any top master to quickly become relevant, and current pros to beat higher tier players (VortiX...).
WriterMaru
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 19 2016 00:20 GMT
#239
But tasteless said VortiX had the best brood lord control in the world. Or was it brood lord pushes. Can't remember.


Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 01:38:05
March 19 2016 01:37 GMT
#240
Innovation has the best all time Aligulac rating out of any terran player. Regardless of definition, it's absolutely ridicoulous to claim he is a patch terran. At his peak someone like Taeja was just even compared to him. Taeja's tournament results are however inflated because he met so many weaker players. Good thing that Aligulac takes skill into account so we can get rid of bias.
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