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We know this is a crazy and sensitive issue, especially since Life is the most high profile player to be caught up in an "investigation". But please stay calm and refrain from slandering players until we have more information. Egregious posts will be dealt with accordingly.

PLEASE READ THE OP BEFORE POSTING
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
January 30 2016 13:09 GMT
#741
On January 30 2016 21:47 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 21:40 Gwavajuice wrote:
On January 30 2016 20:57 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 20:55 Makro wrote:
still no news ?

time to go back playing tomb raider

It's weekend. Wait to (at least) monday probably.



Like what? Police says "ok it's the week end, we're going home, see you monday and don't feel too alone in your cell!"?

seems wierd to me, an investigation can't stay on stand by like this, can it?


that is exactly how it works much of the time. Or actually, it's the prosecutor who does that.


so arresting him on a friday evening was kind of a bitch move...
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12780 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-30 13:12:56
January 30 2016 13:12 GMT
#742
On January 30 2016 22:06 cha0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 22:02 Poopi wrote:
On January 30 2016 21:58 Grizvok wrote:
On January 30 2016 21:33 Poopi wrote:
On January 30 2016 21:17 Grizvok wrote:
On January 30 2016 20:59 Shuffleblade wrote:
On January 30 2016 20:30 Growiel wrote:
On January 30 2016 18:39 Incognoto wrote:
Seunghyun is his first name, right? Not his surname.

Edit: I want to underline that first off we have little to no reason to suspect Life at all. Secondly, the only reason we know about this at all is that an excuse was needed for SPL, meaning that this could actually be a regular occurrence (progamers going into custody for questioning) without us knowing about it. This could just not be a very big deal; imagine if indeed Life were being questioned because his match was fixed but he didn't know about it. Or perhaps he did, but didn't want to say anything as that might damage the scene.

So many difference kinds of possible situations that I don't think any conclusions should be drawn before any official statements.


While we all want some explanation and I really hope nothing comes out of this, this has been reported in a Korean newspaper, it's not just "KeSPA's excuse for SPL".

Well, what are the newspapers source? I mean if Kespa went out and made it public of course it will be reported in other places like newspapers aswell. The migh just use kespa as source, unless you know that is not the case its still possible its "kespas excuse" ignited a chain reaction that lead to all this.

Look at kotaku, they reported on this and they refer to teamliquid, their newssite probably doesn't have their own sources just copying the news from somewhere else. (not saying thats bad, its not)


Can people stop with the "oh it's probably some mistranslation thing and he's probably just there to answer a few questions or some shit." You don't get straight up arrested, held for more than a single day, and taken to a place that solely investigates match-fixing if the allegations are a farce and completely unfounded. I'm not saying he's guilty but let's have some overall perspective that he's in a pretty fucking serious situation instead of trying our hardest to make it seem like no big deal.

What are the evidences that he is held in a place solely investigating match-fixing except a poster with 10 posts?


Again if you haven't even read the article you might not want to comment.

The article is in Korean and pretty sure yesterday the OP didn't talk about Changwon and stuff.


There is no edit on the post, so yes he did. And even simple google translate is enough to pick up on what is being reiterated in this thread by multiple native Korean speakers.

So he is indeed possibly in deep troubles and people are defending him like madmen, nice double standards (compared to MK)
WriterMaru
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28472 Posts
January 30 2016 13:17 GMT
#743
On January 30 2016 22:12 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 22:06 cha0 wrote:
On January 30 2016 22:02 Poopi wrote:
On January 30 2016 21:58 Grizvok wrote:
On January 30 2016 21:33 Poopi wrote:
On January 30 2016 21:17 Grizvok wrote:
On January 30 2016 20:59 Shuffleblade wrote:
On January 30 2016 20:30 Growiel wrote:
On January 30 2016 18:39 Incognoto wrote:
Seunghyun is his first name, right? Not his surname.

Edit: I want to underline that first off we have little to no reason to suspect Life at all. Secondly, the only reason we know about this at all is that an excuse was needed for SPL, meaning that this could actually be a regular occurrence (progamers going into custody for questioning) without us knowing about it. This could just not be a very big deal; imagine if indeed Life were being questioned because his match was fixed but he didn't know about it. Or perhaps he did, but didn't want to say anything as that might damage the scene.

So many difference kinds of possible situations that I don't think any conclusions should be drawn before any official statements.


While we all want some explanation and I really hope nothing comes out of this, this has been reported in a Korean newspaper, it's not just "KeSPA's excuse for SPL".

Well, what are the newspapers source? I mean if Kespa went out and made it public of course it will be reported in other places like newspapers aswell. The migh just use kespa as source, unless you know that is not the case its still possible its "kespas excuse" ignited a chain reaction that lead to all this.

Look at kotaku, they reported on this and they refer to teamliquid, their newssite probably doesn't have their own sources just copying the news from somewhere else. (not saying thats bad, its not)


Can people stop with the "oh it's probably some mistranslation thing and he's probably just there to answer a few questions or some shit." You don't get straight up arrested, held for more than a single day, and taken to a place that solely investigates match-fixing if the allegations are a farce and completely unfounded. I'm not saying he's guilty but let's have some overall perspective that he's in a pretty fucking serious situation instead of trying our hardest to make it seem like no big deal.

What are the evidences that he is held in a place solely investigating match-fixing except a poster with 10 posts?


Again if you haven't even read the article you might not want to comment.

The article is in Korean and pretty sure yesterday the OP didn't talk about Changwon and stuff.


There is no edit on the post, so yes he did. And even simple google translate is enough to pick up on what is being reiterated in this thread by multiple native Korean speakers.

So he is indeed possibly in deep troubles and people are defending him like madmen, nice double standards (compared to MK)

Don't generalize. Most people are just expressing their worries.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
January 30 2016 13:23 GMT
#744
On January 30 2016 22:09 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 21:47 Heartland wrote:
On January 30 2016 21:40 Gwavajuice wrote:
On January 30 2016 20:57 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 20:55 Makro wrote:
still no news ?

time to go back playing tomb raider

It's weekend. Wait to (at least) monday probably.



Like what? Police says "ok it's the week end, we're going home, see you monday and don't feel too alone in your cell!"?

seems wierd to me, an investigation can't stay on stand by like this, can it?


that is exactly how it works much of the time. Or actually, it's the prosecutor who does that.


so arresting him on a friday evening was kind of a bitch move...


Or just the opposite, as not to interfere with life's daily business.
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
January 30 2016 13:25 GMT
#745
On January 30 2016 22:23 cheekymonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 22:09 Gwavajuice wrote:
On January 30 2016 21:47 Heartland wrote:
On January 30 2016 21:40 Gwavajuice wrote:
On January 30 2016 20:57 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 20:55 Makro wrote:
still no news ?

time to go back playing tomb raider

It's weekend. Wait to (at least) monday probably.



Like what? Police says "ok it's the week end, we're going home, see you monday and don't feel too alone in your cell!"?

seems wierd to me, an investigation can't stay on stand by like this, can it?


that is exactly how it works much of the time. Or actually, it's the prosecutor who does that.


so arresting him on a friday evening was kind of a bitch move...


Or just the opposite, as not to interfere with life's daily business.


I see from that comment that you didn't experience what staying in a cell from 3 days is like, and that make me happy for you.
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 30 2016 13:26 GMT
#746
On January 30 2016 22:23 cheekymonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 22:09 Gwavajuice wrote:
On January 30 2016 21:47 Heartland wrote:
On January 30 2016 21:40 Gwavajuice wrote:
On January 30 2016 20:57 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 20:55 Makro wrote:
still no news ?

time to go back playing tomb raider

It's weekend. Wait to (at least) monday probably.



Like what? Police says "ok it's the week end, we're going home, see you monday and don't feel too alone in your cell!"?

seems wierd to me, an investigation can't stay on stand by like this, can it?


that is exactly how it works much of the time. Or actually, it's the prosecutor who does that.


so arresting him on a friday evening was kind of a bitch move...


Or just the opposite, as not to interfere with life's daily business.


Or just wait and arrest him on Monday? But then again he is a citizen just like everyone else. Lets hope the best for the scene.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
January 30 2016 13:33 GMT
#747
Friday arrests are often done to artificially extend the allowable time the detainee can be put in jail. Say, you can only keep him for 36 hrs unless you file a case. But your case isn't ready yet/you're still gathering evidence and interviewing witnesses. Then you make the arrest on a Friday afternoon. That way, you add basically 2 full days to that 36 hr limit.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
January 30 2016 13:39 GMT
#748
On January 30 2016 22:25 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 22:23 cheekymonkey wrote:
On January 30 2016 22:09 Gwavajuice wrote:
On January 30 2016 21:47 Heartland wrote:
On January 30 2016 21:40 Gwavajuice wrote:
On January 30 2016 20:57 Penev wrote:
On January 30 2016 20:55 Makro wrote:
still no news ?

time to go back playing tomb raider

It's weekend. Wait to (at least) monday probably.



Like what? Police says "ok it's the week end, we're going home, see you monday and don't feel too alone in your cell!"?

seems wierd to me, an investigation can't stay on stand by like this, can it?


that is exactly how it works much of the time. Or actually, it's the prosecutor who does that.


so arresting him on a friday evening was kind of a bitch move...


Or just the opposite, as not to interfere with life's daily business.


I see from that comment that you didn't experience what staying in a cell from 3 days is like, and that make me happy for you.


I'm not sure what your logic is. Do you actually think there's any difference?
TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
January 30 2016 13:57 GMT
#749
I remember i was banned 1 month for saying Life was involced in match fixing when soulkey was acused. That was nearly 1 year ago. Now times give me the reason
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28472 Posts
January 30 2016 14:07 GMT
#750
On January 30 2016 22:57 TheAnarchy wrote:
I remember i was banned 1 month for saying Life was involced in match fixing when soulkey was acused. That was nearly 1 year ago. Now times give me the reason

Sure, what proof did you present?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Skamtet
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada634 Posts
January 30 2016 14:08 GMT
#751
On January 30 2016 22:57 TheAnarchy wrote:
I remember i was banned 1 month for saying Life was involced in match fixing when soulkey was acused. That was nearly 1 year ago. Now times give me the reason
youre a fucking retard

User was warned for this post
TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
January 30 2016 14:09 GMT
#752
Problems with bets are very common in Asia. They are so good at mathematics, probabilities and computers.
Achmoulin
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden63 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-30 14:14:24
January 30 2016 14:13 GMT
#753
On January 30 2016 23:09 TheAnarchy wrote:
Problems with bets are very common in Asia. They are so good at mathematics, probabilities and computers.

They are also awesome at dancing and own all the banks?

The stereotypes.
TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
January 30 2016 14:15 GMT
#754
On January 30 2016 23:07 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 22:57 TheAnarchy wrote:
I remember i was banned 1 month for saying Life was involced in match fixing when soulkey was acused. That was nearly 1 year ago. Now times give me the reason

Sure, what proof did you present?


I had my proof but it was to early to make it public. I sent mails to the authorities and betting webs. I thought they woudnt investigate but they did respond to my call of justice
Grizvok
Profile Joined August 2014
United States711 Posts
January 30 2016 14:16 GMT
#755
On January 30 2016 23:09 TheAnarchy wrote:
Problems with bets are very common in Asia. They are so good at mathematics, probabilities and computers.


Can we ban the troll?
neurego7647
Profile Joined January 2016
12 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-30 14:20:54
January 30 2016 14:16 GMT
#756
Followings are what canata said in his streaming today

1. I don't want to swear now. I already used so many swear words yesterday.

2. Yesterday, we(SPL commentators) talk about this incident for a long time. We got so angry

3. Please don't chat the word dog. It irritates me (% Dog is one of the famous nickname of life in korea becuase of his zergling play)

4. I guess his charge is match-fixing, but I hope my expectation is wrong
TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
January 30 2016 14:18 GMT
#757
On January 30 2016 23:13 Achmoulin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 23:09 TheAnarchy wrote:
Problems with bets are very common in Asia. They are so good at mathematics, probabilities and computers.

They are also awesome at dancing and own all the banks?

The stereotypes.


Good at dancing? Thats new for me. I thought people of India where good at dancing not koreans
TheAnarchy
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1105 Posts
January 30 2016 14:20 GMT
#758
On January 30 2016 23:16 Grizvok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 23:09 TheAnarchy wrote:
Problems with bets are very common in Asia. They are so good at mathematics, probabilities and computers.


Can we ban the troll?


Im not trolling. What im saying is a fact ask any Chinese, Japanese, etc. Japan had a great scandal for sumo match fixing like 5 years ago.
DERASTAT
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany99 Posts
January 30 2016 14:24 GMT
#759
On January 30 2016 23:18 TheAnarchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 23:13 Achmoulin wrote:
On January 30 2016 23:09 TheAnarchy wrote:
Problems with bets are very common in Asia. They are so good at mathematics, probabilities and computers.

They are also awesome at dancing and own all the banks?

The stereotypes.


Good at dancing? Thats new for me. I thought people of India where good at dancing not koreans

you know K-Pop, those are boy or girl groups singing Pop songs and dancing,
Kajiu, Troll der Zerstörung
Kaizor
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore909 Posts
January 30 2016 14:27 GMT
#760
On January 30 2016 23:20 TheAnarchy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 23:16 Grizvok wrote:
On January 30 2016 23:09 TheAnarchy wrote:
Problems with bets are very common in Asia. They are so good at mathematics, probabilities and computers.


Can we ban the troll?


Im not trolling. What im saying is a fact ask any Chinese, Japanese, etc. Japan had a great scandal for sumo match fixing like 5 years ago.


I am a Chinese. Stop generalizing. And let's just stop feeding the troll and make my post the last response to him.
Hit me up if you need chinese translations. soO fighting !!
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