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We know this is a crazy and sensitive issue, especially since Life is the most high profile player to be caught up in an "investigation". But please stay calm and refrain from slandering players until we have more information. Egregious posts will be dealt with accordingly.
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still no news ?
time to go back playing tomb raider
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On January 30 2016 20:55 Makro wrote:
still no news ?
time to go back playing tomb raider
It's weekend. Wait to (at least) monday probably.
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Wtf no. pleas not life. <3
that would be a miserable start this year D:
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On January 30 2016 20:57 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 20:55 Makro wrote:
still no news ?
time to go back playing tomb raider It's weekend. Wait to (at least) monday probably.
i hate monday
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On January 30 2016 20:30 Growiel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 18:39 Incognoto wrote:
Seunghyun is his first name, right? Not his surname.
Edit: I want to underline that first off we have little to no reason to suspect Life at all. Secondly, the only reason we know about this at all is that an excuse was needed for SPL, meaning that this could actually be a regular occurrence (progamers going into custody for questioning) without us knowing about it. This could just not be a very big deal; imagine if indeed Life were being questioned because his match was fixed but he didn't know about it. Or perhaps he did, but didn't want to say anything as that might damage the scene.
So many difference kinds of possible situations that I don't think any conclusions should be drawn before any official statements. While we all want some explanation and I really hope nothing comes out of this, this has been reported in a Korean newspaper, it's not just "KeSPA's excuse for SPL".
Well, what are the newspapers source? I mean if Kespa went out and made it public of course it will be reported in other places like newspapers aswell. The migh just use kespa as source, unless you know that is not the case its still possible its "kespas excuse" ignited a chain reaction that lead to all this.
Look at kotaku, they reported on this and they refer to teamliquid, their newssite probably doesn't have their own sources just copying the news from somewhere else. (not saying thats bad, its not)
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On January 30 2016 20:58 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 20:57 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 20:55 Makro wrote:
still no news ?
time to go back playing tomb raider It's weekend. Wait to (at least) monday probably. i hate monday
Let's hope we'll experience relief on this one
On January 30 2016 16:03 WrathSCII wrote:Did someone post this before me? PC Gamer Article
"but the Changwon office is the same one that uncovered incidents of StarCraft 2 match-fixing in 2015, which led to lifetime bans for 12 pro players"
These gaming sites, sigh..
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so that means he is not allowed to play his code S qualifier against Bunny on february 5th? No gsl for Life?
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On January 30 2016 20:59 Shuffleblade wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 20:30 Growiel wrote:On January 30 2016 18:39 Incognoto wrote:
Seunghyun is his first name, right? Not his surname.
Edit: I want to underline that first off we have little to no reason to suspect Life at all. Secondly, the only reason we know about this at all is that an excuse was needed for SPL, meaning that this could actually be a regular occurrence (progamers going into custody for questioning) without us knowing about it. This could just not be a very big deal; imagine if indeed Life were being questioned because his match was fixed but he didn't know about it. Or perhaps he did, but didn't want to say anything as that might damage the scene.
So many difference kinds of possible situations that I don't think any conclusions should be drawn before any official statements. While we all want some explanation and I really hope nothing comes out of this, this has been reported in a Korean newspaper, it's not just "KeSPA's excuse for SPL". Well, what are the newspapers source? I mean if Kespa went out and made it public of course it will be reported in other places like newspapers aswell. The migh just use kespa as source, unless you know that is not the case its still possible its "kespas excuse" ignited a chain reaction that lead to all this. Look at kotaku, they reported on this and they refer to teamliquid, their newssite probably doesn't have their own sources just copying the news from somewhere else. (not saying thats bad, its not)
Can people stop with the "oh it's probably some mistranslation thing and he's probably just there to answer a few questions or some shit." You don't get straight up arrested, held for more than a single day, and taken to a place that solely investigates match-fixing if the allegations are a farce and completely unfounded. I'm not saying he's guilty but let's have some overall perspective that he's in a pretty fucking serious situation instead of trying our hardest to make it seem like no big deal.
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On January 30 2016 21:15 kajtarp wrote:
so that means he is not allowed to play his code S qualifier against Bunny on february 5th? No gsl for Life?
He can play if the investigation is over and he has been cleared until then.
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On January 30 2016 21:17 Grizvok wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 20:59 Shuffleblade wrote:On January 30 2016 20:30 Growiel wrote:On January 30 2016 18:39 Incognoto wrote:
Seunghyun is his first name, right? Not his surname.
Edit: I want to underline that first off we have little to no reason to suspect Life at all. Secondly, the only reason we know about this at all is that an excuse was needed for SPL, meaning that this could actually be a regular occurrence (progamers going into custody for questioning) without us knowing about it. This could just not be a very big deal; imagine if indeed Life were being questioned because his match was fixed but he didn't know about it. Or perhaps he did, but didn't want to say anything as that might damage the scene.
So many difference kinds of possible situations that I don't think any conclusions should be drawn before any official statements. While we all want some explanation and I really hope nothing comes out of this, this has been reported in a Korean newspaper, it's not just "KeSPA's excuse for SPL". Well, what are the newspapers source? I mean if Kespa went out and made it public of course it will be reported in other places like newspapers aswell. The migh just use kespa as source, unless you know that is not the case its still possible its "kespas excuse" ignited a chain reaction that lead to all this. Look at kotaku, they reported on this and they refer to teamliquid, their newssite probably doesn't have their own sources just copying the news from somewhere else. (not saying thats bad, its not) Can people stop with the "oh it's probably some mistranslation thing and he's probably just there to answer a few questions or some shit." You don't get straight up arrested, held for more than a single day, and taken to a place that solely investigates match-fixing if the allegations are a farce and completely unfounded. I'm not saying he's guilty but let's have some overall perspective that he's in a pretty fucking serious situation instead of trying our hardest to make it seem like no big deal.
What are the evidences that he is held in a place solely investigating match-fixing except a poster with 10 posts?
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On January 30 2016 20:57 Penev wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 20:55 Makro wrote:
still no news ?
time to go back playing tomb raider It's weekend. Wait to (at least) monday probably.
Like what? Police says "ok it's the week end, we're going home, see you monday and don't feel too alone in your cell!"?
seems wierd to me, an investigation can't stay on stand by like this, can it?
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On January 30 2016 21:40 Gwavajuice wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 20:57 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 20:55 Makro wrote:
still no news ?
time to go back playing tomb raider It's weekend. Wait to (at least) monday probably. Like what? Police says "ok it's the week end, we're going home, see you monday and don't feel too alone in your cell!"? seems wierd to me, an investigation can't stay on stand by like this, can it?
Not sure how Korean law does it, but most places I know can detain you 48-72 hours before you must be arraigned, and when you get arraigned you can post bail.
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On January 30 2016 21:33 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 21:17 Grizvok wrote:On January 30 2016 20:59 Shuffleblade wrote:On January 30 2016 20:30 Growiel wrote:On January 30 2016 18:39 Incognoto wrote:
Seunghyun is his first name, right? Not his surname.
Edit: I want to underline that first off we have little to no reason to suspect Life at all. Secondly, the only reason we know about this at all is that an excuse was needed for SPL, meaning that this could actually be a regular occurrence (progamers going into custody for questioning) without us knowing about it. This could just not be a very big deal; imagine if indeed Life were being questioned because his match was fixed but he didn't know about it. Or perhaps he did, but didn't want to say anything as that might damage the scene.
So many difference kinds of possible situations that I don't think any conclusions should be drawn before any official statements. While we all want some explanation and I really hope nothing comes out of this, this has been reported in a Korean newspaper, it's not just "KeSPA's excuse for SPL". Well, what are the newspapers source? I mean if Kespa went out and made it public of course it will be reported in other places like newspapers aswell. The migh just use kespa as source, unless you know that is not the case its still possible its "kespas excuse" ignited a chain reaction that lead to all this. Look at kotaku, they reported on this and they refer to teamliquid, their newssite probably doesn't have their own sources just copying the news from somewhere else. (not saying thats bad, its not) Can people stop with the "oh it's probably some mistranslation thing and he's probably just there to answer a few questions or some shit." You don't get straight up arrested, held for more than a single day, and taken to a place that solely investigates match-fixing if the allegations are a farce and completely unfounded. I'm not saying he's guilty but let's have some overall perspective that he's in a pretty fucking serious situation instead of trying our hardest to make it seem like no big deal. What are the evidences that he is held in a place solely investigating match-fixing except a poster with 10 posts?
The article linked in the OP...?
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On January 30 2016 21:40 Gwavajuice wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 20:57 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 20:55 Makro wrote:
still no news ?
time to go back playing tomb raider It's weekend. Wait to (at least) monday probably. Like what? Police says "ok it's the week end, we're going home, see you monday and don't feel too alone in your cell!"? seems wierd to me, an investigation can't stay on stand by like this, can it?
that is exactly how it works much of the time. Or actually, it's the prosecutor who does that.
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On January 30 2016 21:25 Musicus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 21:15 kajtarp wrote:
so that means he is not allowed to play his code S qualifier against Bunny on february 5th? No gsl for Life? He can play if the investigation is over and he has been cleared until then.
sigh, even if hes released its still a question in what mental state he will be.
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On January 30 2016 21:33 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 21:17 Grizvok wrote:On January 30 2016 20:59 Shuffleblade wrote:On January 30 2016 20:30 Growiel wrote:On January 30 2016 18:39 Incognoto wrote:
Seunghyun is his first name, right? Not his surname.
Edit: I want to underline that first off we have little to no reason to suspect Life at all. Secondly, the only reason we know about this at all is that an excuse was needed for SPL, meaning that this could actually be a regular occurrence (progamers going into custody for questioning) without us knowing about it. This could just not be a very big deal; imagine if indeed Life were being questioned because his match was fixed but he didn't know about it. Or perhaps he did, but didn't want to say anything as that might damage the scene.
So many difference kinds of possible situations that I don't think any conclusions should be drawn before any official statements. While we all want some explanation and I really hope nothing comes out of this, this has been reported in a Korean newspaper, it's not just "KeSPA's excuse for SPL". Well, what are the newspapers source? I mean if Kespa went out and made it public of course it will be reported in other places like newspapers aswell. The migh just use kespa as source, unless you know that is not the case its still possible its "kespas excuse" ignited a chain reaction that lead to all this. Look at kotaku, they reported on this and they refer to teamliquid, their newssite probably doesn't have their own sources just copying the news from somewhere else. (not saying thats bad, its not) Can people stop with the "oh it's probably some mistranslation thing and he's probably just there to answer a few questions or some shit." You don't get straight up arrested, held for more than a single day, and taken to a place that solely investigates match-fixing if the allegations are a farce and completely unfounded. I'm not saying he's guilty but let's have some overall perspective that he's in a pretty fucking serious situation instead of trying our hardest to make it seem like no big deal. What are the evidences that he is held in a place solely investigating match-fixing except a poster with 10 posts?
Again if you haven't even read the article you might not want to comment.
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On January 30 2016 21:43 lestye wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 21:40 Gwavajuice wrote:On January 30 2016 20:57 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 20:55 Makro wrote:
still no news ?
time to go back playing tomb raider It's weekend. Wait to (at least) monday probably. Like what? Police says "ok it's the week end, we're going home, see you monday and don't feel too alone in your cell!"? seems wierd to me, an investigation can't stay on stand by like this, can it? Not sure how Korean law does it, but most places I know can detain you 48-72 hours before you must be arraigned, and when you get arraigned you can post bail.
In japan it is a number of days, then they must provide some sort of reason, if that can be supplied it can last to 30 days i believe... and from there if they prove some standard of evidence i believe it can be indefinite... >.>
that said, i really hope they postpone his match if it comes to it. In the event he is found to be innocent it would be horrendous to have f'ed him over on his matches @_@
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On January 30 2016 21:58 Grizvok wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 21:33 Poopi wrote:On January 30 2016 21:17 Grizvok wrote:On January 30 2016 20:59 Shuffleblade wrote:On January 30 2016 20:30 Growiel wrote:On January 30 2016 18:39 Incognoto wrote:
Seunghyun is his first name, right? Not his surname.
Edit: I want to underline that first off we have little to no reason to suspect Life at all. Secondly, the only reason we know about this at all is that an excuse was needed for SPL, meaning that this could actually be a regular occurrence (progamers going into custody for questioning) without us knowing about it. This could just not be a very big deal; imagine if indeed Life were being questioned because his match was fixed but he didn't know about it. Or perhaps he did, but didn't want to say anything as that might damage the scene.
So many difference kinds of possible situations that I don't think any conclusions should be drawn before any official statements. While we all want some explanation and I really hope nothing comes out of this, this has been reported in a Korean newspaper, it's not just "KeSPA's excuse for SPL". Well, what are the newspapers source? I mean if Kespa went out and made it public of course it will be reported in other places like newspapers aswell. The migh just use kespa as source, unless you know that is not the case its still possible its "kespas excuse" ignited a chain reaction that lead to all this. Look at kotaku, they reported on this and they refer to teamliquid, their newssite probably doesn't have their own sources just copying the news from somewhere else. (not saying thats bad, its not) Can people stop with the "oh it's probably some mistranslation thing and he's probably just there to answer a few questions or some shit." You don't get straight up arrested, held for more than a single day, and taken to a place that solely investigates match-fixing if the allegations are a farce and completely unfounded. I'm not saying he's guilty but let's have some overall perspective that he's in a pretty fucking serious situation instead of trying our hardest to make it seem like no big deal. What are the evidences that he is held in a place solely investigating match-fixing except a poster with 10 posts? Again if you haven't even read the article you might not want to comment.
The article is in Korean and pretty sure yesterday the OP didn't talk about Changwon and stuff.
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On January 30 2016 20:58 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 20:57 Penev wrote:On January 30 2016 20:55 Makro wrote:
still no news ?
time to go back playing tomb raider It's weekend. Wait to (at least) monday probably. i hate monday
You can sleep through it and see the news on Tuesday.
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On January 30 2016 22:02 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2016 21:58 Grizvok wrote:On January 30 2016 21:33 Poopi wrote:On January 30 2016 21:17 Grizvok wrote:On January 30 2016 20:59 Shuffleblade wrote:On January 30 2016 20:30 Growiel wrote:On January 30 2016 18:39 Incognoto wrote:
Seunghyun is his first name, right? Not his surname.
Edit: I want to underline that first off we have little to no reason to suspect Life at all. Secondly, the only reason we know about this at all is that an excuse was needed for SPL, meaning that this could actually be a regular occurrence (progamers going into custody for questioning) without us knowing about it. This could just not be a very big deal; imagine if indeed Life were being questioned because his match was fixed but he didn't know about it. Or perhaps he did, but didn't want to say anything as that might damage the scene.
So many difference kinds of possible situations that I don't think any conclusions should be drawn before any official statements. While we all want some explanation and I really hope nothing comes out of this, this has been reported in a Korean newspaper, it's not just "KeSPA's excuse for SPL". Well, what are the newspapers source? I mean if Kespa went out and made it public of course it will be reported in other places like newspapers aswell. The migh just use kespa as source, unless you know that is not the case its still possible its "kespas excuse" ignited a chain reaction that lead to all this. Look at kotaku, they reported on this and they refer to teamliquid, their newssite probably doesn't have their own sources just copying the news from somewhere else. (not saying thats bad, its not) Can people stop with the "oh it's probably some mistranslation thing and he's probably just there to answer a few questions or some shit." You don't get straight up arrested, held for more than a single day, and taken to a place that solely investigates match-fixing if the allegations are a farce and completely unfounded. I'm not saying he's guilty but let's have some overall perspective that he's in a pretty fucking serious situation instead of trying our hardest to make it seem like no big deal. What are the evidences that he is held in a place solely investigating match-fixing except a poster with 10 posts? Again if you haven't even read the article you might not want to comment. The article is in Korean and pretty sure yesterday the OP didn't talk about Changwon and stuff.
There is no edit on the post, so yes he did. And even simple google translate is enough to pick up on what is being reiterated in this thread by multiple native Korean speakers.
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