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We know this is a crazy and sensitive issue, especially since Life is the most high profile player to be caught up in an "investigation". But please stay calm and refrain from slandering players until we have more information. Egregious posts will be dealt with accordingly.

PLEASE READ THE OP BEFORE POSTING
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 15:03:00
January 29 2016 15:02 GMT
#281
On January 30 2016 00:00 brickrd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 23:56 suicideyear wrote:
i'm hoping it was just some shit like life doing rails of coke in public and that this was all some misunderstanding and he didn't throw any games

you wouldn't be worried about him doing coke in public? lol

Older than 14, old enough for coke

Also sc2 cant take a blow of this size.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 29 2016 15:02 GMT
#282
On January 29 2016 23:00 Rekrul wrote:
studies show that zergs are more likely to get caught


Is that your way of saying you will post a progamer gossip part 3 ?
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20-Minute-Jackal
Profile Joined May 2015
United States336 Posts
January 29 2016 15:03 GMT
#283
Now that I think of it, I think MarineKing is innocent of matchfixing, because if he was, I think the police would have been all over his ass.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 15:04:48
January 29 2016 15:04 GMT
#284
On January 29 2016 23:59 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 23:56 ShizzK wrote:
Pinnacle Sports just cancelled the results in the Code A match between Super and RagnaroK.

[Abnormal and suspicious betting activity has been detected for this event. All wagers from all customers have been cancelled. This action is taken very rarely and is for the protection of all our customers.]

Just before the match started the odds for map 1 changed a lot. Someone put a lot of money on RagnaroK on map 1 and Pinnacle obviously belive map 1 was rigged.

Pisses me off because i bet on Super for match and all maps.

I think Super had suspicious betting pattens on one of his matches before.

Super vs INnoVation had a cancelled bet, albeit on a map Super won.

Also I just found this one:
On July 10 2015 20:55 ShizzK wrote:
Pinnacle Sports cancel bets on Life vs aLive

---

[E Sport] [Starcraft 2 - Starcraft 2 StarLeague] [kamp] Life vs aLive.
[Abnormal and suspicious betting activity has been detected for this event. All wagers from all customers have been cancelled. This action is taken very rarely and is for the protection of all our customers.]

---

I did not watch the match tho, so I am not sure why. Anyone?

... hoping it was just a fakeout by gamblers.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 29 2016 15:04 GMT
#285
On January 30 2016 00:01 ErectedZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 23:56 suicideyear wrote:
i'm hoping it was just some shit like life doing rails of coke in public and that this was all some misunderstanding and he didn't throw any games


Yeah that's even worse though.

You'll actually get YEARS in jail in SK for doing drugs other than tobacco/alcohol.

Though it wouldn't hurt SC2 scene.

I am personally hoping for some Life's personal shit too. And something crazy - like driving some expensive car(Ferrari etc.) and crashing into something. Or driving without license and not cooperating with Police or something.

Also I hope this ends well. Life finds a way
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HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
January 29 2016 15:04 GMT
#286
I hope he's not involved. But all of those 'illegal betting scandals' are just a testament to what happens when someone gets too invested in something that hardly brings any money.
oh, hai
palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
January 29 2016 15:04 GMT
#287
On January 29 2016 23:45 207aicila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 23:26 palexhur wrote:
On January 29 2016 23:08 207aicila wrote:
On January 29 2016 23:05 palexhur wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:50 digmouse wrote:
On January 29 2016 22:46 brickrd wrote:
saying it makes no sense for a successful player to fix is the exact same thing as "why would [attractive celebrity] have to rape someone? women love him!" fyi


Different case imo, this is all about money, Life isn't even remotely short of money, he made $117k from prize money alone in 2015, and I could imagine him on a huge contract at KT.


Savior earned a lot of more money than life, but he was greedy, being large of money doesnt relate to be inoccent or guilty of matchfixing in SC world.


Absolutely incorrect. It's well known by now that the pros involved in the BW matchfixing scandal weren't paid much for their troubles, certainly not compared to sAviOr's salary and tournament winnings. It's also known that in sAviOr's case in particular, boredom and lack of passion for the game played a big role rather than greed.


You are too naive if you think that Savior did something illegal only for boredom, you build things with legos if you are bored, you dont build an illegal ring of matchfixers, and I put only Savior example so dont bring the other guys to the table.


I didn't say only for boredom, but we did get figures of what they were paid to throw matches, and it's shit. Nothing compared to what you'd make by going far in a StarLeague let alone their salary...

Please teach me more about a scene I've been following for over 10 years.


I am out of this argument with you, it is not relevant for me anymore, and fyi I have been following, playing, and.. RTS since 1999, do your math guy. hf cya gl
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 29 2016 15:05 GMT
#288
On January 29 2016 23:32 SeriousLus wrote:
seriously? SERIOUSLY???? unbelievable these guys.
if i say more i get banned, soo... fuck that shit


Please say more then.
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MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
January 29 2016 15:06 GMT
#289
what the hell?? I certainly hope Life is innocent of whatever! That would be the deepest blow to starcraft..
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 15:07:33
January 29 2016 15:06 GMT
#290
On January 30 2016 00:04 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 00:01 ErectedZenith wrote:
On January 29 2016 23:56 suicideyear wrote:
i'm hoping it was just some shit like life doing rails of coke in public and that this was all some misunderstanding and he didn't throw any games


Yeah that's even worse though.

You'll actually get YEARS in jail in SK for doing drugs other than tobacco/alcohol.

Though it wouldn't hurt SC2 scene.

I am personally hoping for some Life's personal shit too. And something crazy - like driving some expensive car(Ferrari etc.) and crashing into something. Or driving without license and not cooperating with Police or something.

Also I hope this ends well. Life finds a way

"This just in: greatest Starcraft 2 player of all time sentenced to 3 years of prison for drug abuse. Has eSports gone too far? Is your child consuming more than just games?"

Yeah, wouldn't hurt the scene at all, I'm sure.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
January 29 2016 15:09 GMT
#291
WE NEED MORE INFO

TL'S INVESTIGATION TEAM BASED IN SEOUL PLEASE GIVE US MORE INFO
rip passion
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 29 2016 15:10 GMT
#292
On January 30 2016 00:06 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 00:04 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:01 ErectedZenith wrote:
On January 29 2016 23:56 suicideyear wrote:
i'm hoping it was just some shit like life doing rails of coke in public and that this was all some misunderstanding and he didn't throw any games


Yeah that's even worse though.

You'll actually get YEARS in jail in SK for doing drugs other than tobacco/alcohol.

Though it wouldn't hurt SC2 scene.

I am personally hoping for some Life's personal shit too. And something crazy - like driving some expensive car(Ferrari etc.) and crashing into something. Or driving without license and not cooperating with Police or something.

Also I hope this ends well. Life finds a way

"This just in: greatest Starcraft 2 player of all time sentenced to 3 years of prison for drug abuse. Has eSports gone too far? Is your child consuming more than just games?"

Yeah, wouldn't hurt the scene at all, I'm sure.


If someone would actually be sentenced to prison for just taking drugs, it won't shed bad light on esport, but on the legal system of the country in question. Because that's absolutely ridiculous - and also quite off topic.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
January 29 2016 15:10 GMT
#293
On January 30 2016 00:04 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2016 23:59 AWalker9 wrote:
On January 29 2016 23:56 ShizzK wrote:
Pinnacle Sports just cancelled the results in the Code A match between Super and RagnaroK.

[Abnormal and suspicious betting activity has been detected for this event. All wagers from all customers have been cancelled. This action is taken very rarely and is for the protection of all our customers.]

Just before the match started the odds for map 1 changed a lot. Someone put a lot of money on RagnaroK on map 1 and Pinnacle obviously belive map 1 was rigged.

Pisses me off because i bet on Super for match and all maps.

I think Super had suspicious betting pattens on one of his matches before.

Super vs INnoVation had a cancelled bet, albeit on a map Super won.

Also I just found this one:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2015 20:55 ShizzK wrote:
Pinnacle Sports cancel bets on Life vs aLive

---

[E Sport] [Starcraft 2 - Starcraft 2 StarLeague] [kamp] Life vs aLive.
[Abnormal and suspicious betting activity has been detected for this event. All wagers from all customers have been cancelled. This action is taken very rarely and is for the protection of all our customers.]

---

I did not watch the match tho, so I am not sure why. Anyone?

... hoping it was just a fakeout by gamblers.

Me too. I doubt they all were tho..
I Protoss winner, could it be?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
January 29 2016 15:11 GMT
#294
Byun set Life up to get out of KeSPA jail, you heard it here first
Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1612 Posts
January 29 2016 15:11 GMT
#295
Actual KeSPA jail confirmed
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aQuaSC
Profile Joined August 2011
717 Posts
January 29 2016 15:12 GMT
#296
Maybe he just crossed the road on red light?
TL+ Member
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 15:15:49
January 29 2016 15:14 GMT
#297
On January 30 2016 00:10 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2016 00:06 Elentos wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:04 deacon.frost wrote:
On January 30 2016 00:01 ErectedZenith wrote:
On January 29 2016 23:56 suicideyear wrote:
i'm hoping it was just some shit like life doing rails of coke in public and that this was all some misunderstanding and he didn't throw any games


Yeah that's even worse though.

You'll actually get YEARS in jail in SK for doing drugs other than tobacco/alcohol.

Though it wouldn't hurt SC2 scene.

I am personally hoping for some Life's personal shit too. And something crazy - like driving some expensive car(Ferrari etc.) and crashing into something. Or driving without license and not cooperating with Police or something.

Also I hope this ends well. Life finds a way

"This just in: greatest Starcraft 2 player of all time sentenced to 3 years of prison for drug abuse. Has eSports gone too far? Is your child consuming more than just games?"

Yeah, wouldn't hurt the scene at all, I'm sure.


If someone would actually be sentenced to prison for just taking drugs, it won't shed bad light on esport, but on the legal system of the country in question. Because that's absolutely ridiculous - and also quite off topic.

you may be logically right, but you are socially wrong. moral panic, especially relating to kids, modern hobbies and drugs, is extremely potent and such a thing could absolutely cause hostility toward esports. people aren't thinking about causality when they freak out about their kids being "corrupted"
TL+ Member
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28481 Posts
January 29 2016 15:15 GMT
#298
Maybe he's falsely accused, we just don't know
I Protoss winner, could it be?
neurego7647
Profile Joined January 2016
12 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 15:19:28
January 29 2016 15:17 GMT
#299
As korean I explain serious point for you guys (forgive my awkward engilish sentences)

He's arrested by prosecutor, not by police
This means Life can be involved in serious crime, not misdemeanor.
And considering winning rate of prosecutors in korean court, Life is guilty more than 98%
Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland753 Posts
January 29 2016 15:18 GMT
#300
New sponsor hypE !

so much exposition in such a short time... o.0
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