EPTApocalypse eSports disbands - Page 3
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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NikaLogy
Denmark58 Posts
On January 28 2016 15:27 ZigguratOfUr wrote: Nice... Is this a record? I believe so yes, even apeX lasted longer than this. | ||
CynicalDeath
Italy3455 Posts
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bjornkavist
Canada1235 Posts
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OveRtheStarS
Canada69 Posts
There needs to be some degree of due diligence, proof of funds, corporate registration, corporate or trust accounts... not a few pieces of paper shoddily formatted in Word that a 3rd grader could pump out on his lunch break. This entirely. Things like this happening in e-Sports is hardly new, and the fact that professional players keep falling for these sorts of deals just makes me shake my head. At what point do players, and even others with good intent, begin to question these scenarios which obviously sound too good to be true? Especially with a scene like SC2, what are the chances that you're going to run into somebody who just happens to have $180,000 to throw around and invest in it? If people were a bit wiser and more business savvy, then situations like this could easily be avoided. | ||
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Zailyn
Canada25 Posts
On January 28 2016 15:32 OveRtheStarS wrote: This entirely. Things like this happening in e-Sports is hardly new, and the fact that professional players keep falling for these sorts of deals just makes me shake my head. At what point do players, and even others with good intent, begin to question these scenarios which obviously sound too good to be true? Especially with a scene like SC2, what are the chances that you're going to run into somebody who just happens to have $180,000 to throw around and invest in it? If people were a bit wiser and more business savvy, then situations like this could easily be avoided. Considering the average price for an entry level premier MOBA team is =~ $500/player/month, and I imagine a T2 CS:Go team looking to break into T1 is a similar price... MOBA Team: 5x500 = $2500/month CS:Go Team: 5x500 - $2500/month SC2 Team: =~ $1000-2000/Month $6000-7000/month x 12 = $72000/$84000 per year on salary alone... $185000 for a two year budget for DotA, CS:Go and SC2 when offering salary AND full LAN expenses is actually a fairly reasonable and accurate operating budget for an organization that's not operating a team house. | ||
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BartCraft
Netherlands45 Posts
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OveRtheStarS
Canada69 Posts
$6000-7000/month x 12 = $72000/$84000 per year on salary alone... $185000 for a two year budget for DotA, CS:Go and SC2 when offering salary AND full LAN expenses is actually a fairly reasonable and accurate operating budget for an organization that's not operating a team house. Absolutely, when there is some sort of capital involved in the investment. But, again, what are the chances of someone off the street throwing this kind of personal money at a declining scene? There was no intent of expanding into more lucrative markets that could have potentially provided a return until the SC2 players increased the teams popularity. And this still doesn't account for the fact that people sign onto these sorts of deals without making any assurances for themselves that the finances are in place, besides verbal promises and poorly written documents. I can make reasonable budgets all I want, for all sorts of things. But they mean nothing unless the backing money is there. Until that happens, they're just smoke screens. | ||
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Zailyn
Canada25 Posts
On January 28 2016 15:45 OveRtheStarS wrote: Absolutely, when there is some sort of capital involved in the investment. But, again, what are the chances of someone off the street throwing this kind of personal money at a declining scene? There was no intent of expanding into more lucrative markets that could have potentially provided a return until the SC2 players increased the teams popularity. And this still doesn't account for the fact that people sign onto these sorts of deals without making any assurances for themselves that the finances are in place, besides verbal promises and poorly written documents. I suppose you have to weigh in potential upside compared to potential downside for the players. If they do actually get sent to a few events or get any money out of it, it is totally worth it. Ah well... Another venture down the drain. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7136 Posts
On January 28 2016 14:16 Solar424 wrote: Well this guy has joined Martin Shkreli, the LYGF guy, Gerrard, and Simon Boudreault as the sketchiest eSports team owners. Add alloye aldaris to that list | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
On January 28 2016 15:05 shin_toss wrote: So sad to see them go.. the memories will stay with me tho, good luck to the players "the memories" right... | ||
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huller20
United States112 Posts
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
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Muxtar
Ukraine64 Posts
On January 28 2016 14:34 billynasty wrote: this is crazy... Literally. | ||
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fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
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bduddy
United States1326 Posts
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joshie0808
Canada1024 Posts
Hoping for the best for the players | ||
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BeaSt..
United States312 Posts
On January 28 2016 15:41 Zailyn wrote: MOBA Team: 5x500 = $2500/month CS:Go Team: 5x500 - $2500/month SC2 Team: =~ $1000-2000/Month Where are you getting these numbers from? I can see why things have gone under 4 times in the last 2-3 years under your guidance.. | ||
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JonnySC2
Germany119 Posts
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