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PtitDrogo wins Dreamhack Leipzig - Page 6

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D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
January 25 2016 15:41 GMT
#101
Nice to see that Bly and his gimmicks didn't get rewarded with a DH win at least.
why even
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
January 25 2016 15:52 GMT
#102
On January 26 2016 00:38 MrMischelito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2016 20:28 Cdtf wrote:
That poor Bly.

Kick the two Koreans out of the tournament, the lose finals to a foreigner.

same for Mana in wcs s3 2015...

Actually very terrible design that race has a bigger impact than opponent.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
481 Posts
January 25 2016 15:56 GMT
#103
Actually enjoyed this DH a lot.
Congrats to ptitdrogo!
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
January 25 2016 16:00 GMT
#104
Actually I liked that only semifinals & grandfinal were on stage. I love to see more "Backroom" or however that is called.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3144 Posts
January 25 2016 16:05 GMT
#105
On January 26 2016 01:00 Dingodile wrote:
Actually I liked that only semifinals & grandfinal were on stage. I love to see more "Backroom" or however that is called.


The semis weren't played on stage.
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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SiegeRider
Profile Joined January 2016
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 16:20:47
January 25 2016 16:19 GMT
#106
On January 26 2016 00:52 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 00:38 MrMischelito wrote:
On January 25 2016 20:28 Cdtf wrote:
That poor Bly.

Kick the two Koreans out of the tournament, the lose finals to a foreigner.

same for Mana in wcs s3 2015...

Actually very terrible design that race has a bigger impact than opponent.



Bly actually said in one of the interviews that his ZvZ is way better than his other matchups. It's not really a surprise that he could lose to a player of lower caliber than Hydra and Violet if its not ZvZ.

Edit: not trying to say drogo is worse than Hydra and Violet or that he doesn't deserve the win
ArtyK
Profile Joined June 2011
France3144 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 16:30:14
January 25 2016 16:29 GMT
#107
On January 26 2016 01:19 SiegeRider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 00:52 Dingodile wrote:
On January 26 2016 00:38 MrMischelito wrote:
On January 25 2016 20:28 Cdtf wrote:
That poor Bly.

Kick the two Koreans out of the tournament, the lose finals to a foreigner.

same for Mana in wcs s3 2015...

Actually very terrible design that race has a bigger impact than opponent.



Bly actually said in one of the interviews that his ZvZ is way better than his other matchups. It's not really a surprise that he could lose to a player of lower caliber than Hydra and Violet if its not ZvZ.

Edit: not trying to say drogo is worse than Hydra and Violet or that he doesn't deserve the win


He never said that lol, he specifically said that ZvP was his best matchup, but that PvZ was also the best matchup of PtitDrogo "best PvZ in europe if not best protoss EU".

Considering the recent performances of Drogo against zergs recently like in homestory cup, and the level of Hydra and Violet at this tournament i'm pretty sure he could have beaten them as well.
Sup dood ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ KiWiKaKi | SLush | uThermal | PtitDrogo | SortOf | Clem ~ "I told my mom she should vote for me in Nation Wars, she said 'I dunno, I kinda want Finland to win'" – Luolis ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NScWV9h8k#t=1h01m
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
January 25 2016 17:29 GMT
#108
gg Drogo, making France proud.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16084 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-25 17:48:10
January 25 2016 17:46 GMT
#109
On January 25 2016 21:36 lugaidster wrote:


Not watching the game because you think the games are not up to your standard is your prerrogative, you don't have to spend your time on something you don't consider entertaining if you don't want to, but don't call yourself a fan. Fans love the game for the game. Fans love their teams and players above all.

Yeah I love the game for the game , I love my favourite players and teams and always cheer for them.
My favourite players are PartinG, Maru, Life, INnoVation, TaeJa etc.
It has nothing to do with the games not being up to my standard I just want to watch my favourite players, and now I can't.
or am I only allowed to cheer for players that happen to be born in the same country as me?
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 25 2016 18:00 GMT
#110
On January 26 2016 00:38 MrMischelito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2016 20:28 Cdtf wrote:
That poor Bly.

Kick the two Koreans out of the tournament, the lose finals to a foreigner.

same for Mana in wcs s3 2015...


Lilbow beat Hydra in ro8, Mana Forgg in semi. I let you guess who was the more fearsome korean back then.
Zest fanboy.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
January 25 2016 19:25 GMT
#111
On January 26 2016 00:25 lugaidster wrote:
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On January 26 2016 00:22 wtfishedoing wrote:
I have to confess, I was a bit disappointed that Drogo didn't already crush face in Jönköping. I was a true believer back then. Even better to see him succeed now, i hope he can keep it up!
Also the new WCS system really reinvigorated the foreign scene. Its awesome to see all these pros so motivated to do well in 2016. This will be a perfect year if the next events can build on this Dreamhack and get bigger again. Maybe we will see some international events with Koreans as well. Can't wait for Blizzcon.

Oh.. and gogo TLO!! I would love him getting a trophy as well. such a hard worker


TLO had great games IMHO. It's been a while since I've seen him playing this well.

TLO won USD 2000 and 300 WCS points. While he had some troubles to get out of his group, he then won versus Scarlett and took out Snute. His run ended in the Ro8, but he was stopped only by the eventual champion.

Very good games by TheLittleOne.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
lugaidster
Profile Joined October 2011
Chile30 Posts
January 26 2016 00:54 GMT
#112
On January 26 2016 02:46 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2016 21:36 lugaidster wrote:


Not watching the game because you think the games are not up to your standard is your prerrogative, you don't have to spend your time on something you don't consider entertaining if you don't want to, but don't call yourself a fan. Fans love the game for the game. Fans love their teams and players above all.

Yeah I love the game for the game , I love my favourite players and teams and always cheer for them.
My favourite players are PartinG, Maru, Life, INnoVation, TaeJa etc.
It has nothing to do with the games not being up to my standard I just want to watch my favourite players, and now I can't.
or am I only allowed to cheer for players that happen to be born in the same country as me?


Please, read again. I'm not against you rooting for your players and being unhappy with the changes that won't allow you to see your favorite players win every international event. I'm actually against pretend "fans". I believe that viewers complaining that the games aren't or won't be "high quality" enough for them without koreans playing aren't real fans of the game, they're just snobs or elitists. If you don't fall in that category, well, good for you, we'll just root for different players and that's fine. However, if you do fall in that category, well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. There's nothing you'll be able to tell me to make me believe that you're not an elitist jerk if you stop watching starcraft because without koreans the game is not high quality.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16084 Posts
January 26 2016 01:05 GMT
#113
On January 26 2016 09:54 lugaidster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 02:46 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 25 2016 21:36 lugaidster wrote:


Not watching the game because you think the games are not up to your standard is your prerrogative, you don't have to spend your time on something you don't consider entertaining if you don't want to, but don't call yourself a fan. Fans love the game for the game. Fans love their teams and players above all.

Yeah I love the game for the game , I love my favourite players and teams and always cheer for them.
My favourite players are PartinG, Maru, Life, INnoVation, TaeJa etc.
It has nothing to do with the games not being up to my standard I just want to watch my favourite players, and now I can't.
or am I only allowed to cheer for players that happen to be born in the same country as me?


Please, read again. I'm not against you rooting for your players and being unhappy with the changes that won't allow you to see your favorite players win every international event. I'm actually against pretend "fans". I believe that viewers complaining that the games aren't or won't be "high quality" enough for them without koreans playing aren't real fans of the game, they're just snobs or elitists. If you don't fall in that category, well, good for you, we'll just root for different players and that's fine. However, if you do fall in that category, well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. There's nothing you'll be able to tell me to make me believe that you're not an elitist jerk if you stop watching starcraft because without koreans the game is not high quality.

well, then I agree with you. But I think most people are just salty they can't watch their favourite players as often anymore.
has nothing to do with "elitist jerks". I wouldn't have a problem with foreigner tournaments if they were made possible without fucking so many korean players.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
January 26 2016 01:20 GMT
#114
On January 26 2016 09:54 lugaidster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 02:46 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 25 2016 21:36 lugaidster wrote:


Not watching the game because you think the games are not up to your standard is your prerrogative, you don't have to spend your time on something you don't consider entertaining if you don't want to, but don't call yourself a fan. Fans love the game for the game. Fans love their teams and players above all.

Yeah I love the game for the game , I love my favourite players and teams and always cheer for them.
My favourite players are PartinG, Maru, Life, INnoVation, TaeJa etc.
It has nothing to do with the games not being up to my standard I just want to watch my favourite players, and now I can't.
or am I only allowed to cheer for players that happen to be born in the same country as me?


Please, read again. I'm not against you rooting for your players and being unhappy with the changes that won't allow you to see your favorite players win every international event. I'm actually against pretend "fans". I believe that viewers complaining that the games aren't or won't be "high quality" enough for them without koreans playing aren't real fans of the game, they're just snobs or elitists. If you don't fall in that category, well, good for you, we'll just root for different players and that's fine. However, if you do fall in that category, well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. There's nothing you'll be able to tell me to make me believe that you're not an elitist jerk if you stop watching starcraft because without koreans the game is not high quality.

Let's take any sport, basketball for the sake of argument. I now remove all American born players from the current NBA because of some strange WCS-like reasoning.

Now the vast majority of fans don't want to watch anymore, are they not true fans? Are they elitist jerks? Get off the white knighting here, the games that are now available to us at these tournaments are factually no longer as "high quality", if the top 20 greatest players in NBA happen to be American let that be, if the top 20 greatest players in SCII happen to be Korean let that be. Fans want to watch the best games they possibly can because they know how intricate, how calculated, how beautiful and masterful the game can truly be.

Nobody is saying we can't 'enjoy' what we are watching, but coloring all the fans who state that the new system excludes the highest caliber players as 'elitist jerks' is mind boggling.
the farm ends here
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
January 26 2016 08:25 GMT
#115
congrats to drogo. French players are gosu!
MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
January 26 2016 19:24 GMT
#116
On January 26 2016 03:00 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2016 00:38 MrMischelito wrote:
On January 25 2016 20:28 Cdtf wrote:
That poor Bly.

Kick the two Koreans out of the tournament, the lose finals to a foreigner.

same for Mana in wcs s3 2015...


Lilbow beat Hydra in ro8, Mana Forgg in semi. I let you guess who was the more fearsome korean back then.

you are right. I totally forgot that epic comeback and reverse sweet against Hydra!
Nuclease
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1049 Posts
January 26 2016 23:38 GMT
#117
Drogo is one of the coolest players I remember hearing about recently, and I loved his commentary during NWIII. He also has the IdrA "I don't give a fuck" factor that makes him really fun to follow.

Good shit.
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