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On January 16 2016 04:14 Empirimancer wrote:
Bbyong's comment about Protoss lying is pretty funny. I haven't read every interview so I'm sure some Protoss are in denial, but to my knowledge this problem with Adept balance is actually the first time in SC2 history that the players of an OP race are being mostly honest about the problem.
Actually it happens most of the time. The only time it really didn't happen was 2011 T.
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On January 16 2016 04:19 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2016 04:14 Empirimancer wrote:
Bbyong's comment about Protoss lying is pretty funny. I haven't read every interview so I'm sure some Protoss are in denial, but to my knowledge this problem with Adept balance is actually the first time in SC2 history that the players of an OP race are being mostly honest about the problem.
Actually it happens most of the time. The only time it really didn't happen was 2011 T.
Yeah, that was the GomTvT period with all the Terran players on the internet claiming that the game is balanced but that the Terran pro players are just so much better than Protoss and Zerg.
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Really liked the interview of seed, having imbalance yeah why not, but taking month and month to fix some basic bug/MMR issues ... Blizzard
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On January 16 2016 04:38 CheddarToss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2016 04:19 Nebuchad wrote:On January 16 2016 04:14 Empirimancer wrote:
Bbyong's comment about Protoss lying is pretty funny. I haven't read every interview so I'm sure some Protoss are in denial, but to my knowledge this problem with Adept balance is actually the first time in SC2 history that the players of an OP race are being mostly honest about the problem.
Actually it happens most of the time. The only time it really didn't happen was 2011 T. Yeah, that was the GomTvT period with all the Terran players on the internet claiming that the game is balanced but that the Terran pro players are just so much better than Protoss and Zerg.
There are always people that will claim their race just has better players in every period with imbalance.
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On January 16 2016 04:44 Poopi wrote:
Seed should apologize
he actually apologized on stream for playing his race haha
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On January 16 2016 05:50 Killmouse wrote:he actually apologized on stream for playing his race haha
Good guy Seed, bad guys Blizzard
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Glad to have Seed back xD
This was hilarious as well:
Say a word.
There`s one thing that Protoss needs: conscience. Stop lying in interviews.
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Oh, now, all of you Seed "fans" are now coming out. Where were you guys when Seed won his first Proleague match against Bomber? Where were you guys when Seed found a team after fOu? Where were....
Ah, fuck it. I'm just so damn happy that Seed is back giving such brilliant interviews.
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On January 16 2016 04:38 CheddarToss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2016 04:19 Nebuchad wrote:On January 16 2016 04:14 Empirimancer wrote:
Bbyong's comment about Protoss lying is pretty funny. I haven't read every interview so I'm sure some Protoss are in denial, but to my knowledge this problem with Adept balance is actually the first time in SC2 history that the players of an OP race are being mostly honest about the problem.
Actually it happens most of the time. The only time it really didn't happen was 2011 T. Yeah, that was the GomTvT period with all the Terran players on the internet claiming that the game is balanced but that the Terran pro players are just so much better than Protoss and Zerg.
I'm guessing you weren't here for BL/Infestor and the Blink era, I actually remember a certain guy whose name I will not tell but started with N and ended with ebuchad that said that terran was stronger than toss during the blink era and that the reason that where 3 terrans in code S was because there weren't any good terrans compared to protoss.
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Seed is such a boss, conscience toss 
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More respect for Seed earned for his words. And I agree with Bbyong, I miss mech.
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for english speakers, the translation of term 메카닉 to mechanics is bit confusing at glance because it refers to something like game mechanics instead of mech play at times :p just a feedback on otherwise good translations
Other than that though, the interviews come across bit bitter and angry. Kinda worried since koreans tend to be roundabout
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Don't worry, Terrans, I'm sure Blizzard is doing tons of internal testing and it says that adepts are fine.
+ Show Spoiler +Seriously though, I'm pretty sure Blizzard's "internal testing" is them watching the AI play each other. They're evenly skilled, so balance is the only factor, right?
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I dont think the translator to Bbyong's question on mech play is translated right. What I saw was
Q: Why can't Mech be used?
A: The game tempo got faster, and the resource mines out lot quicker so no matter how you fix [mech], if you don't fix the resource problem, you can't use mech. You need to last through the game (turtle?), but if you run out of resources, you cant move at all. You cant compete with Zerg and Protoss's mobility at all.In Lotv, mech would probably have hard time appearing at all.
Just throwing it out here
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Nerf adepts + liberators + ultras + parasitic bomb (and maybe remove the +shield on widow mines to help chargelot archon). Simple, really.
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Any replays and/or vods on this?
On January 16 2016 05:00 Mlord wrote:
Really liked the interview of seed, having imbalance yeah why not, but taking month and month to fix some basic bug/MMR issues ... Blizzard
Seems blizzards MO, how long did it take them just to add more basic features to bnet like chat and watching replays with others? To this day its still impractical to play all the races if your main is much better than the other two.
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Seed is a G. Clearly doesnt give a damn about offending anyone lol. I love his attitude.
Also Blizzard just please make the WP cost more or something, make it more of a risk to lose it rather than the cost of 4 marines.
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On January 16 2016 09:39 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Nerf adepts + liberators + ultras + parasitic bomb (and maybe remove the +shield on widow mines to help chargelot archon). Simple, really.
I think PB is fine if they do go throught with the last proposed nerf. I think ravagers are more of a problem, they are not necessarily OP, but much like adepts they dictate too much of how the game goes, specially early game.
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Holy shit, Seed laying down the law!
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