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[Interviews] 2016 GSL Season 1 Code A Day 3 Winners

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Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-20 04:41:08
January 15 2016 16:20 GMT
#1
http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=149985&iskin=esports (Seed)
http://sports.news.naver.com/esports/news/read.nhn?oid=347&aid=0000082937 (Bbyong)
http://sports.news.naver.com/esports/news/read.nhn?oid=442&aid=0000029629 (DeParture)



Seed



Q. It's been a year since your last code S. How do you feel?

I'm thrilled to win code S again. I`ll prepare well and do my best for you guys.


Q. How did you feel when you realised that Bomber is your opponent?

I thought I got this. I`ve never been lost against Terran except TY and ByuN. I was confident; it did not seem to lose. Not because it was Bomber, but it was Terran.


Q. You made a whistle-blowing after match. Do you think balance issues are serious that much ?

Adepts are insane against Terran. You can take advantageous ground even if you failed to harass with it. Adepts are not only good at blocking scouts, but pressing Terran with its ability. When Terran sees WP, you must place your defense troops regardless of its intention.

However, I do not understand that Zerg players are having a hard time against Protoss. Except Dusk Towers or Orbital Shipyard, Zerg has it over Protoss. Because Zerg has tons of ways to harass Protoss, there are many games that Protoss defeated while defending against Zerg`s all-out attack.

Anyway, TvP is biased to Protoss, Absolutely.


Q. Do you think Terran can counter WP-Adepts strategy?

Many gosu Terrans wage mind games by taking fast double gases. This can counter Adepts, but it requires physical talents. Of course, even with that strategy, TvP is about 4:6. As you see, you cannot beat Protoss with your Cyclones.


Q. I heard that you deliberately abused Adepts in order to show your discontent against Blizzard balance team, right?

Somewhat.One thing is, they never listen our feedback. They`ve adjusted unrelated things since WoL. Every race needs nerf now. Liberators, Adepts, Zerg`s new units... Anyway, of course, they`ll do whatever they want. One thing is, they hardly ask things to progamers.


Q. Are you expecting all the reprimands from communities for abusing Adepts?

I`m not the one to be blamed. I`m not the one who made Adepts - I`m just one who used it. SC2 has problems, to say nothing of balance issues. It has chatting bugs and sometimes bronze leaguer meets grand master when one leaves league. I do not know what they are thinking, because it`s been two months that those bugs are neglected. I have so much thing to say, but they do not listen; that`s why I made an interview like that.


Q. You become eloquent.

(laugh) It`d been ages since I made my last interview. Maybe that`s why I`m talkative now.


Q. What`s your goal?

Ro. 8, for now. It'll be best if I win tournament again.


Q. Is there any player you want to play against?

I don`t know, because Code A is not finished yet. It doesn`t matter for now.


Q. It is true that MVP players practice a lot because Choya plays SC2 a lot?

I`m coach, but my amount of training is in the top 3 of my team; I`m the oldest one except Choya. Even I do this much; younger teammates also do their best, too.


Q. Say a word that you want.

Since Blaze`s father passed away, we`re in mourning atmosphere. I hope that he overcomes it. Thanks to Chickenmaru and Lotte-Chilsung for sponsoring us. Please keep support us, since we`ll give it back to our fans with our performances. I`d also like to say thank you to my mates, family members, teammates and fans.



Bbyong



Q You advanced. How do you feel?

I consider my opponent an amateur, so I`m not hyped. I was obsessed with all-ins in game 1 and 2, though Terran must be aware of them.


Q You wrecked in game 1.

I was so stiff, because I was possessed with my opponent.


Q Did you know anything about your opponent?

Everyone says that he always all-in. That`s what I was concerning about; He didn`t, actually.


Q Your opinion about balance?

People overlook one thing; even if Protoss is nerfed as DK suggested, Terran would lose. Even random Protoss player can win with WP-Adepts - and that`s not the only one that needs nerf. Adepts are only the tip of the iceberg. According to the interviews with Protoss players, they tend to win games too easy. I feel helpless, because I cannot do anything against Adepts. This is the worst balance I`ve ever seen.


Q. Is there any player you want to play against?

Anyone but Protoss.


Q. What`s your goal?

I`d like to aim high, but it is hard due to Protoss. Every Terran player has the same issue.


Q. Do you have anything needs improvement?

My APM is quite slow; I cannot control my resources. It`s been 3 years, and I cannot fix it. Because that makes Mech nonviable, I need to practice more.


Q. Why Mechanic is not viable?

Game is faster and resource depletes quicker. If I cannot fix my APM problem, I cannot use Mechanics. You cannot hold till combinations are changed, because it depletes so fast. Z and P`s mobility overwhelms that of Terran. Maybe Mechanic cannot be viable forever in LotV.


Say a word.

There`s one thing that Protoss needs: conscience. Stop lying in interviews.



DeParture



Q. This is your first Code S. how do you feel?

I`m very glad, because this is my first time that I won qualifications.


Q. What were you thinking after you confirmed your opponent?

I thought my opponent was strong. However I thought it was OK because I`m good at playing against Protoss,


Q. You only used Ravagers. Is there any reason?

I tried various builds, but that one had the highest winrate. I tried to be aggressive.


Q. Seems MVP is doing well. Any particular reason?

Since Choya practices a lot, everyone is a bit concerned. Of course, LotV fits in, too.


Q. Does Lotv fits you, too? I mean, more than WoL or HotS?

I thought I was good at Hots, but I could not prove myself; I believe I can do better this time.


Q. Any favourable opponent?

No one except Terran. Terran is very hard to play against, because of reapers, Liberators and Ghosts. Zerg cannot take dominance.


Q. Anything to say?

Blaze is having a hard time. I hope he overcomes it. Thanks to Hot6 and Chickenmaru.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
TheoMikkelsen
Profile Joined June 2013
Denmark196 Posts
January 15 2016 16:23 GMT
#2
I think the Adept does show too much strength versus Terran, but one must not forget the prospects of the matchup if a nerf is to go through.
Any sufficiently cheesy build is indistinguishable in skill
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
January 15 2016 16:24 GMT
#3
This interview is exactly why Seed is my favourite player.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 16:29:38
January 15 2016 16:26 GMT
#4
welcome back seed, it's been a while
- gsl
Also didn't he play bomber not sorry lol
can i get my estro logo back pls
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
January 15 2016 16:26 GMT
#5
He didn't play vs Sorry in Code A <.<

Also does he mean in practice? Because he has no official games vs TY on Aligulac in LotV, but losses against some other Terrans.

Also, RIP Blaze's dad.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 15 2016 16:28 GMT
#6
On January 16 2016 01:23 TheoMikkelsen wrote:
I think the Adept does show too much strength versus Terran, but one must not forget the prospects of the matchup if a nerf is to go through.


just nerf liberator and maybe widow mine
Zest fanboy.
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
January 15 2016 16:28 GMT
#7
On January 16 2016 01:26 Elentos wrote:
He didn't play vs Sorry in Code A <.<

Also does he mean in practice? Because he has no official games vs TY on Aligulac in LotV, but losses against some other Terrans.

Also, RIP Blaze's dad.


I was confused, because their first names are same.

"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
PinoKotsBeer
Profile Joined February 2014
Netherlands1385 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 16:31:56
January 15 2016 16:31 GMT
#8
haha his answer vs the balance team :D Its always the same with Blizzard.... Blizzard doesnt "listen", they only listen when it fits their vision. Same with the weekly "community feedbacks" who are a farce on its own.
http://www.twitch.tv/pinokotsbeer
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
January 15 2016 16:43 GMT
#9
Oh Seed, how I have missed you. :D
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 15 2016 16:52 GMT
#10
Seed is the GSL champion Blizzard deserves and we need.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24193 Posts
January 15 2016 17:00 GMT
#11

Somewhat.One thing is, they never listen our feedback. They`ve adjusted unrelated things since WoL. Every race needs nerf now. Liberators, Adepts, Zerg`s new units... Anyway, of course, they`ll do whatever they want. First, they hardly do ask things to progamers.

Thanks so much for that Seed. Enough with that "no nerfs please, just buffs" bullshit. I agree with everything he said.
Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2627 Posts
January 15 2016 17:02 GMT
#12
You can feel the sadness in Bbyong's interview.

I miss mech too buddy :c
ThatOneHalf
Profile Joined December 2015
11 Posts
January 15 2016 17:08 GMT
#13
I consider my opponent an armature


not "an armature", but "an amateur"

well, I guess...
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
January 15 2016 17:11 GMT
#14
Never heard a foreign player say that his APM is too slow
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
January 15 2016 17:16 GMT
#15
On January 16 2016 02:08 ThatOneHalf wrote:
Show nested quote +
I consider my opponent an armature


not "an armature", but "an amateur"

well, I guess...


Malapropism, Sire!
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12154 Posts
January 15 2016 17:25 GMT
#16
On January 16 2016 01:28 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 01:23 TheoMikkelsen wrote:
I think the Adept does show too much strength versus Terran, but one must not forget the prospects of the matchup if a nerf is to go through.


just nerf liberator and maybe widow mine


First we'll have to figure out if there's a way we can win against non-nerfed terran, so probably in one or one in a half gsl
No will to live, no wish to die
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 15 2016 17:27 GMT
#17
On January 16 2016 02:25 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 01:28 sAsImre wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:23 TheoMikkelsen wrote:
I think the Adept does show too much strength versus Terran, but one must not forget the prospects of the matchup if a nerf is to go through.


just nerf liberator and maybe widow mine


First we'll have to figure out if there's a way we can win against non-nerfed terran, so probably in one or one in a half gsl


with the current trend it'd be in 2017.
Zest fanboy.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12154 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 17:29:13
January 15 2016 17:28 GMT
#18
On January 16 2016 02:27 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2016 02:25 Nebuchad wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:28 sAsImre wrote:
On January 16 2016 01:23 TheoMikkelsen wrote:
I think the Adept does show too much strength versus Terran, but one must not forget the prospects of the matchup if a nerf is to go through.


just nerf liberator and maybe widow mine


First we'll have to figure out if there's a way we can win against non-nerfed terran, so probably in one or one in a half gsl


with the current trend it'd be in 2017.


Yeah something like that. But it's okay.

Edit: we also want to consider if we want to nerf terran even then.
No will to live, no wish to die
EatingBomber
Profile Joined August 2015
1017 Posts
January 15 2016 17:30 GMT
#19
Bbyong's rage against Protoss is hilarious
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-15 19:14:44
January 15 2016 19:14 GMT
#20
Bbyong's comment about Protoss lying is pretty funny. I haven't read every interview so I'm sure some Protoss are in denial, but to my knowledge this problem with Adept balance is actually the first time in SC2 history that the players of an OP race are being mostly honest about the problem.

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