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MMA Retires
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
http://teamacer.com/en/mma_farewell_announcement.htm
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SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
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BjoernK
194 Posts
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Wrath
3174 Posts
Like StarCraft II needs more... Was the transition from WoL to HotS like this? Mass retirements and dark future about WCS? | ||
CynicalDeath
Italy3384 Posts
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Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10673 Posts
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
I will miss you MMA. GLHF | ||
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
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dr3am_b3ing
Canada188 Posts
I can't be the only one who senses war or something else being foreshadowed | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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BjoernK
194 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:06 SNSeigifried wrote: http://teamacer.com/en/mma_farewell_announcement.htm There are some qualtiy pics found at this link. Great pics. Feels strange seeing Innovation with them though. He really fits better in the kespa environment. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Edpayasugo
United Kingdom2215 Posts
Good luck in the future! | ||
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REyeM
2674 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:07 WrathSCII wrote: LOL Like StarCraft II needs more... Was the transition from WoL to HotS like this? Mass retirements and dark future about WCS? I don't think people are retiring because of lotv. I think it's mostly because of the way scene is developing | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
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tokinho
United States792 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
http://teamacer.com/en/mma_farewell_announcement.htm | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:17 REyeM wrote: I don't think people are retiring because of lotv. I think it's mostly because of the way scene is developing I thought it was known already that MMA was retiring at the end of this year for a while. Am I thinking of someone else? | ||
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Tanzklaue
Germany1413 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:17 REyeM wrote: I don't think people are retiring because of lotv. I think it's mostly because of the way scene is developing well, lotv is a good point to retire though. new game, you would have to repractice a lot etc.# really sad about the news, MMA was one of the biggest names in sc2  he will be missed, good luck on his future endeavours! | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:19 Musicus wrote: Can you please put the real source into the OP and not just a picture? http://teamacer.com/en/mma_farewell_announcement.htm Done. | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:07 WrathSCII wrote: LOL Like StarCraft II needs more... Was the transition from WoL to HotS like this? Mass retirements and dark future about WCS? Blizzard made the money and has no reason to keep SC II alive on their own. But seriously, MMA is one of the oldest progamers in the scene. I am happy that he can celebrate at HSC with his foreign fans and foreign friends a last time and then start the next episdoe of his life. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:20 Shellshock wrote: I thought it was known already that MMA was retiring at the end of this year for a while. Am I thinking of someone else? Me too, but we might have been thinking of Bomber. | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
Thanks! | ||
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Diabolique
Czech Republic5118 Posts
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Calt
Finland1140 Posts
I wish him the best in everything else he does in his life, he was and will remain as probably my favorite player ever <3 | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
Good luck to your future MMA, thank you for bringing many great games to watch on my free time <3 | ||
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IAmWithStupid
Russian Federation1016 Posts
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REyeM
2674 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:20 Shellshock wrote: I thought it was known already that MMA was retiring at the end of this year for a while. Am I thinking of someone else? No actually. Also Polt, TaeJa and Bomber are kind of in the similar position Bomber might have already retired idk | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:20 Shellshock wrote: I thought it was known already that MMA was retiring at the end of this year for a while. Am I thinking of someone else? No you are right. He was already thinking about it last year, but the he reached the BlizzCon final and decided to play for another year. It just wasn't confirmed until now and hope dies last I guess. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19239 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:07 WrathSCII wrote: LOL Like StarCraft II needs more... Was the transition from WoL to HotS like this? Mass retirements and dark future about WCS? Honestly, I thought it was way worse several years back. This has been a relative small amount of off season retirements, but really big names because of MMA and Flash. OT: MMA was one of my favorite Terrans and he will truly be missed. MMA vs DRG forever!!! | ||
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:16 Musicus wrote: Damn you military service. All the best MMA, I hope he wins hsc. At least he'll be exempted from training camp, cause he once served it for 5 weeks in the sergeant camp | ||
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SNSeigifried
United States1640 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:12 showstealer1829 wrote: Interesting how it's mostly only the Koreans that would probably be at those weekend tournaments that are retiring...I'm sure the rumors of WCS have nothing to do with this whatsoever. I will miss you MMA. GLHF MMA/ForGG/Polt/Bomber/Curious all announced their retirements earlier this year... | ||
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Topin
Peru10078 Posts
SlayerS_MMA to Acer.MMA what a great player | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:22 REyeM wrote: No actually. Also Polt, TaeJa and Bomber are kind of in the similar position Bomber might have already retired idk TaeJa is listed in the SSL Qualifier for today/tomorrow, maybe he reconsidered | ||
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Wrath
3174 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:24 SNSeigifried wrote: MMA/ForGG/Polt/Bomber/Curious all announced their retirements earlier this year... Wait Wait... DAFAQ? Polt? Bomber? Curious? | ||
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REyeM
2674 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:26 showstealer1829 wrote: TaeJa is listed in the SSL Qualifier for today/tomorrow, maybe he reconsidered It's TaeJa, so who knows | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
Thanks for everything MMA. Good luck in the army! | ||
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Mattitude905
35 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Kaizor
Singapore909 Posts
It was good while it lasted MMA, glhf ! | ||
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Yora
United States35 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:24 SNSeigifried wrote: MMA/ForGG/Polt/Bomber/Curious all announced their retirements earlier this year... Inorite? There can be many reasons for players to retire that are irrelevant to the game or scene itself. It's so silly for some people to associate retirements with whatever they're currently feeling passhun about. I know MMA wanted to reach higher before retiring, but he really has accomplished a great deal and I'm sure he can walk away satisfied. GL to your future endeavors, MMA. <3 | ||
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TsogiMaster
191 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:32 Mattitude905 wrote: Just title these threads "Another Terran player says Fuck it" There wont be any left by the time blizzard even thinks to look at balance. Dude what has his retirement to do with the balace? Almost everyone knew he will retire this year. Even Olimoley said it on the stream 3 weeks ago. Dont know why almost everyone here is saying, his retirement has to do with the transition from Hots to Lotv. Well because of his win vs Mvp in GSL final in Blizzcon 2011, I started to watch e-sports. Since then he was my favourite player. Well sad that he wont play for another year. But at least we can watch him in HSC. | ||
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Mattitude905
35 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:36 TsogiMaster wrote: Dude what has his retirement to do with the balace? Almost everyone knew he will retire this year. Even Olimoley said it on the stream 3 weeks ago. Dont know why almost everyone here is saying, his retirement has to do with the transition from Hots to Lotv. Well because of his win vs Mvp in GSL final in Blizzcon 2011, I started to watch e-sports. Since then he was my favourite player. Well sad that he wont play for another year. But at least we can watch him in HSC. If Starcraft was my job I really dont think I could put up with what blizzard has done. | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:07 WrathSCII wrote: LOL Like StarCraft II needs more... Was the transition from WoL to HotS like this? Mass retirements and dark future about WCS? Oh for fucks sake. Retirements happen every end of the season. This particular retirement also isn't unexpected. MMA practically announced it a year ago. He has had a long career and his military service is coming up. And what dark future of WCS? Everyone who actually knows something seems to consider it a positive. How about we wait till we also actually know something? All the rest is idiocy and bleating of the sheep. | ||
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redloser
Korea (South)1725 Posts
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AbouSV
Germany1278 Posts
I just hope we'll get to see some other amazing players giving us yet some more amazing shows! | ||
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Amazonic
Sweden239 Posts
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
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Foki
Germany23 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Sigh, if Bomber retires too early I don't know what will I do DAMN IT!!!!All the best, MMA! | ||
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Arvendilin
Germany1878 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:32 Mattitude905 wrote: Just title these threads "Another Terran player says Fuck it" There wont be any left by the time blizzard even thinks to look at balance. User was warned for this post Wait... since when is Terran the currently super underpowered race did I miss something? And very sad to see MMA go, I really loved when he got back into ro4 GSL after going back to Korea, showing that he still had it in him! | ||
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RaFox17
Finland4581 Posts
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HEADD
Czech Republic611 Posts
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Mattitude905
35 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:48 Arvendilin wrote: Wait... since when is Terran the currently super underpowered race did I miss something? And very sad to see MMA go, I really loved when he got back into ro4 GSL after going back to Korea, showing that he still had it in him! Nope you didn't miss a thing. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . .. . | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
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Adept
United States472 Posts
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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ivancype
Brazil485 Posts
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
MMA vs DRG in the GSTL May finals MMA vs Losira at MLG Columbus finals MMA vs Mvp in GSL October finals MMA vs DRG in Blizzard Cup finals WCS EU championships in 2013 and 2014 IEM Kiev, DH Moscow, Iron Squid 1. Blizzcon finals 2014. Off the top of my head, these are some of my best memories as a fan of MMA. And of course IdrA gg-ing to MMA had me laughing for a week. Some more notorious moments would be losing to Goody, to Polt in the Super Tournament, losing to Protoss, the SlayerS drama, the slump. | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
I really hope he's going to do well in military service and during his "normal" life. Take care of yourself. | ||
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Drmooose
United States390 Posts
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Ctesias
4595 Posts
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Darkencik
Slovakia74 Posts
he always seemed to me like such a fun and polite person and of course i was always impressed by his multitasking | ||
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
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Popkiller
3415 Posts
Mvp, MMA... now all I've got left is Polt. | ||
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RogerShah
Netherlands131 Posts
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bObA
France300 Posts
He succeeded a beautiful comeback and I am sad for him not to have won the last Blizzcon against a very good Life, it was his last dream and would have liked for him to finish his carrier on that | ||
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Ingvar
Russian Federation421 Posts
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dr3am_b3ing
Canada188 Posts
Holy shit | ||
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
On December 17 2015 03:09 dr3am_b3ing wrote: Why isn't coming war the first thing that comes to mind when you guys see all these koreans "retiring" for military conscription? Is nobody getting that sense from all these "retirements"? Holy shit Cause it's conpulsory. You must serve 2 years at army before the age of 30. | ||
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/fO9xkoV.gif) "time to unretire" | ||
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Popkiller
3415 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
I might be wrong on the military service. Last I recall he was doing it but he suffered a knee injury and had to be discharged, but I wonder if he has to return because his knee is recovered now. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
was a pleasure to talk to you in Cologne. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5PaWMzP.jpg) kudos to Gumba for the shirt <3 | ||
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bObA
France300 Posts
On December 17 2015 03:17 Popkiller wrote: Here is a moment to relive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFMrlHYhB3I Crazy !!!! | ||
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cop354g
61 Posts
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Piey
Scotland5 Posts
 , this has made me creep out of my bunker and post my most gracious thanks and good luck to probably the most influential sc2 terran there has been , such a solid player for such a long time and so sad to see him retire , truly the reason i play terran and will be sorely missed , all the best in the future MMA a true #heroofsc2 | ||
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
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cop354g
61 Posts
If Usain Bolt would run 10 hours day, he wouldnt be able to make records at 30+ age, so likely issue is that progaming is not regulated enough and people break their arms and mental health by simply playing too much. | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
MMA was such a cool person and a good player, this name will forever resonate in the heart of any sc2 fan. Will miss him very much and make sure to check his last roar at HSC. | ||
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On December 17 2015 03:24 cop354g wrote: Why do thise high quality players retire so young? Especially flash. MMA is 27, which is ancient by SC2 standards | ||
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
On December 17 2015 03:29 cop354g wrote: I think issue with young retiring age is due to poor player health management. People dont retire at 25 in any real sports either, or formulas etc. In real sports, the competitors are really taken care of healthcare wise and they probably dont "play" as much as progamers do, so people burn themselves out so soon. If Usain Bolt would run 10 hours day, he wouldnt be able to make records at 30+ age, so likely issue is that progaming is not regulated enough and people break their arms and mental health by simply playing too much. Most(4, actually) Kespa teams have their own health-care system, including personal gym traning. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On December 17 2015 03:33 Thouhastmail wrote: Most(4, actually) Kespa teams have their own health-care system, including personal gym traning. Did MMA ever play for a Kespa team tho? | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6209 Posts
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
On December 17 2015 03:33 Thouhastmail wrote: Most(4, actually) Kespa teams have their own health-care system, including personal gym traning. It doesn't matter whether you get free painkillers for you cervicals or not. They still get fucked up in the end. | ||
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cop354g
61 Posts
On December 17 2015 03:32 Solar424 wrote: MMA is 27, which is ancient by SC2 standards Well, 27 is not old at all. Trend of retirement age has to be due to something else. There was few years ago some study where authors tried to prove that at 24 decline starts across all leagues, but it had big flaw where the subjects played less as they aged so it didnt prove anything. Also the data didnt really support it when observed more closely, the falloff of reaction times etc where not exactly something where good conclusions could have been made. | ||
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Elentos
55550 Posts
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Thouhastmail
Korea (North)876 Posts
On December 17 2015 03:33 SC2Toastie wrote: Did MMA ever play for a Kespa team tho? T1, 1 year, as a BW player. Most progamers debut around the age of 16; which means their heyday comes around 21. Progamers' 10-year- career is not that short, tho it feels quite short in comparison to other sports. | ||
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dyDrawer
Canada438 Posts
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Tngabor
Serbia60 Posts
On December 17 2015 03:32 Solar424 wrote: MMA is 27, which is ancient by SC2 standards Hey, you watch your mouth son : ) 27 is not old !!! : ) | ||
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cop354g
61 Posts
On December 17 2015 03:39 Thouhastmail wrote: T1, 1 year, as a BW player. Nost progamers debut around the age of 16; which means their heyday comes around 21. Progamers' 10-year- career is not that short, tho its quite in comparision of other sports. Likely it has more to do with that most players are not succesful enough, so they have to do something else with their life since mediocre pro gamer is not really good career choice yet compared to mediocre football player. When very succesful players retire, it might be because its hard to be best and since they have achieved so much already and its really stressfull to practise 10 hours day etc, retiring at high note or right after might sound good idea even if player might get second wind if continued. Esports is not developed enough, to really warrant staying on being pro gamer forever unless you are really winning everything everywhere. I believe flash very well had potential to be the best sc2 player. | ||
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TR
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SinO[Ob]
France897 Posts
GL for your future! | ||
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looknohands119
United States815 Posts
Planned or not though, a legend like MMA retiring is definitely sad. | ||
Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
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DSK
England1110 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
Always sad when such a legend leaves us | ||
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atrox_
United Kingdom1710 Posts
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xTJx
Brazil419 Posts
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SlammerIV
United States526 Posts
We shall miss you MMA GG | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
one of my favorites.... Was just looking at the HSC groups and looking forward to his play! | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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gneGne
Netherlands697 Posts
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PinoKotsBeer
Netherlands1385 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
Farewell MMA... | ||
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J. Corsair
United States470 Posts
I refuse to believe this. | ||
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GreenMash
Norway1746 Posts
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Feisty
Vatican City State35 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OAM6SDH.gif) | ||
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KtJ
United States3514 Posts
MMA! MMA! MMA! See ya later, champ. | ||
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On December 17 2015 03:34 cop354g wrote: Well, 27 is not old at all. Trend of retirement age has to be due to something else. There was few years ago some study where authors tried to prove that at 24 decline starts across all leagues, but it had big flaw where the subjects played less as they aged so it didnt prove anything. Also the data didnt really support it when observed more closely, the falloff of reaction times etc where not exactly something where good conclusions could have been made. The reason for Koreans is simple: Military service. For everyone else (but also Koreans): there's no long term stability or money in it. | ||
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Lappen.464
Germany42 Posts
edit: and code s ro4 not to forget Farewell son of Boxer | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
Then he, Taeja, Bomber, and MC came back to Korea and they all bombed out of their tournaments and fell entirely off the grid... except MMA who immediately proceeded to go to Code S Ro4 where he got taken out by motherfucking PartinG in a motherfucking PvT. I'll never forget that moment of being proven dead wrong about a player. This guy was the real deal, and I only got to experience that for a couple of months. Apart from that, I've always personally found him the most charming SC2 player. Good luck in all your future endeavors MMA, I hope you stick around in the scene even if you're not competing. | ||
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MiniFotToss
China2430 Posts
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Zenith_Zaephyr
13 Posts
Good luck to a good man and a brilliant player. | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
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KtJ
United States3514 Posts
On December 17 2015 04:50 MiniFotToss wrote: wait I thought he was gonna be in HSC He will be. It's his last tournament. | ||
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CometNine
New Zealand87 Posts
It shouldn't come to a surprise to anyone though...MMA announced that he'd only play for another year at the end of Blizzcon last year before heading to the military in 2016. He also said this again when he joined SBENU for proleague. So...it was always going to happen. In any case, good luck to MMA! Thanks for all the games over the years. | ||
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Dreamer.T
United States3584 Posts
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Glenn313
United States475 Posts
I really hope he does well in what he chooses to do in the future! | ||
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darthfoley
United States8003 Posts
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nanaoei
3358 Posts
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swissman777
1106 Posts
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
-MMA thanks for the fun, dude | ||
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deus.machinarum
Austria658 Posts
gl hf, wp sir! | ||
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Ja.Y.
United States253 Posts
I want to see an MMA vs. Mvp show match or MMA vs. DRG. Or IdrA to rage quit again when MMA accidentally destroys one of his CC's | ||
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xtorn
4060 Posts
On December 17 2015 03:40 Tngabor wrote: Hey, you watch your mouth son : ) 27 is not old !!! : ) Yea, wtf . By his standards maybe | ||
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
Send off party for MMA | ||
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Sgany
United Kingdom790 Posts
My favourite SC2 player, sad to see him go | ||
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ClaudeSc2
United States73 Posts
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Dungeontay
126 Posts
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SCguineapig
Netherlands289 Posts
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On December 17 2015 06:10 ClaudeSc2 wrote: I'm more than OK with the Sc2 scene being lean and mean. GL in life MMA, you made it to the top but the game is racing ahead of you and the old guard. It's probably past time you dropped out. Once all of these old ESF guys hang up their boots we'll have a nice fresh Korean lineup with the "veterans" being seasoned KESPA players. These ESF guys hanging around is kind of reminiscent of the 1914 French Cavalry in the Great War, brilliant looking with a storied and valorous past, but not up to the current military standards. Thank you for your service MMA, you will not be forgotten. What a load of crap. MMA got second place in Blizzcon 2014 en ro4 in a GSL last year. He was also competitive in Pro-league. That's more than all but a handful of the current Kespa crop can boast with. | ||
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emc
United States3088 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:07 WrathSCII wrote: LOL Like StarCraft II needs more... Was the transition from WoL to HotS like this? Mass retirements and dark future about WCS? IIRC it was the opposite, HotS was the transition of proleague BW players to SC2 | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44326 Posts
Good luck in the future, MMA! | ||
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Vlad_Slymor
France26 Posts
Thanks for the good ol' times cheering for you, MMA! Very nice pics on the Acer site: I'm sure those memories will not be forgotten! Best of luck for the future to the true ironsquid. | ||
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Kerence
Sweden1817 Posts
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jonich0n
United States1982 Posts
Even though he eventually lost the Bo3, he was part of one of the best TvT series I've seen in SC2 against Innovation in a Dreamhack semifinal. Very clever player with a great mentality and personality, but it seemed he had been declining a bit for a while (kind of how FlaSh seemed to do in 2015)... the scene will miss him. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44326 Posts
On December 17 2015 07:04 jonich0n wrote: Aw, sad. Another fantastic Terran bites the dust. MMA never quite inspired me as much as FlaSh (I mean come on, it's a pretty preposterous notion, considering) Considering what? MMA was far more successful in SC2 than Flash was, and unless you watched BW, MMA would have been a lot more memorable. | ||
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TurboMaN
Germany925 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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PepperMintTea
187 Posts
It is sad to see him go and I wish him the best | ||
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HonorZ
France858 Posts
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
best of luck. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
His fan club has nearly 200 pages. This guy is a legend. | ||
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effecto
France142 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On December 17 2015 07:32 effecto wrote: Next one is Polt, in few months. More Terrans to come! That's grim. | ||
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Penev
28477 Posts
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
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Copymizer
Denmark2087 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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Sogetsu
514 Posts
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KanoCoke
Japan863 Posts
Starting out as a team player, yet having already gone against impossible odds to bring his team to victory numerous times, then slowly transitioning that play into his first title win with MLG and coming back to face Polt at the super tournament finals. He's showed us a plethora of great games, narrowly defeating players in their prime despite being in severe disadvantages, yet it wasn't just his games, but his career as a whole too as he had come back from the SlayerS disaster with reinvigorated play in team leagues and eventually solo tournaments again, culminating with his last hurrah at last years' global finals and semi-final run at the hardest tournament in the world. He's always come back from the brink of defeat, and I'm sure he'll do so again, should he ever decide to come back to us as a player. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
"If I don't sweat again today, I will be crying in tears tomorrow." "Form is temporary. Class is permanent." | ||
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jcairne
United States127 Posts
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Jj_82
Swaziland419 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Crocolisk Dundee
870 Posts
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Emperor_Earth
United States824 Posts
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
But it had to happen eventually. Thought he was gonna retire earlier this year after losing to Life in Blizzcon last year. | ||
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Riner1212
United States337 Posts
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EleMenTfiNi
Canada107 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:26 showstealer1829 wrote: TaeJa is listed in the SSL Qualifier for today/tomorrow, maybe he reconsidered Yep Taeja will be there, not GSL though. | ||
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ETisME
12390 Posts
So many sc2 legends retiring | ||
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Riner1212
United States337 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:39 Mattitude905 wrote: If Starcraft was my job I really dont think I could put up with what blizzard has done. amen | ||
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Djentleman
8 Posts
I'm so glad, that i met MMA last year when he has won his WCS-title Such an amazing player and nice guy! Farewell MMA! | ||
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Espartaquen
88 Posts
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Nuclease
United States1049 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:07 WrathSCII wrote: LOL Like StarCraft II needs more... Was the transition from WoL to HotS like this? Mass retirements and dark future about WCS? Yes. It's a natural time for transition, and I think people who were thinking of retiring tend to feel like between expacs is the best time. As far as WCS goes...the community tends to see any unknown major changes as negatively as possible. MMA has been one of my favorite players since the SlayerS days...we love you MMA, and you will be missed! | ||
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sa1Ko
Argentina99 Posts
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
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Jepsyn
Canada364 Posts
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Hier
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A3th3r
United States319 Posts
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CrimeCat
Germany43 Posts
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Daye911
United States12 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On December 17 2015 11:06 CrimeCat wrote: I'll never forget MMA smiling after losing some final. Inspiring player. You will be missed! It's funny to me that herO got the nickname "smiling assassin," when MMA is the progamer I most associate with a good-natured grin. | ||
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epsilox
2 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:07 WrathSCII wrote: LOL Like StarCraft II needs more... Was the transition from WoL to HotS like this? Mass retirements and dark future about WCS? Mass retirements? I know of Flash and MMA as the big names. Plus, the biggest reason for Korean players is the mandatory military service, what better time to get that out of the way than when a new game has just come out and your skill level may not be consistent with what you showed in the previous game? Pretty sure there were comparable retirements during WoL to HotS period as well. | ||
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BreakfastBurrito
United States893 Posts
On December 17 2015 12:40 epsilox wrote: Mass retirements? I know of Flash and MMA as the big names. Plus, the biggest reason for Korean players is the mandatory military service, what better time to get that out of the way than when a new game has just come out and your skill level may not be consistent with what you showed in the previous game? Pretty sure there were comparable retirements during WoL to HotS period as well. People also don't realize there's no big thread for every up and comer, the guy who might be a royal roader next year, or the next big proleague sniper (etc) so if all you read about is retirements it might seem like that way Edit: Almost forgot, best of luck MMA, one of my favorite Terrans | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
GLHF MMA! Cheers to all the great games you had. | ||
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BreAKerTV
Taiwan1658 Posts
MC... Flash... MMA... who will it be next? | ||
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lestye
United States4163 Posts
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r132/hitman133/_MG_5868.jpg) MLG Anaheim 2011. They will be missed. | ||
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RevTiberius
Canada353 Posts
He'll be missed, was one of my first Terran heroes | ||
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stefan16
103 Posts
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Whatson
United States5356 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aBP5o.jpg) | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On December 17 2015 15:26 stefan16 wrote: age wise, next are bomber and JD? I think Bomber was supposed to have retired for a year now. Same with Taeja. But, they're Koreans, so they'll keep grinding until they have to join the military. | ||
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psiANIDe
Korea (South)47 Posts
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
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Veluvian
Bulgaria256 Posts
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kagamin
United States191 Posts
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Rollora
2450 Posts
I only remember those 2 terrans | ||
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Jjing
China13 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On December 17 2015 12:17 pure.Wasted wrote: It's funny to me that herO got the nickname "smiling assassin," when MMA is the progamer I most associate with a good-natured grin. StarDust? | ||
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agsub
Singapore368 Posts
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Veluvian
Bulgaria256 Posts
On December 17 2015 17:09 Rollora wrote: So Flash, MMA, who else of the korean pros retired recently? I only remember those 2 terrans Actually this year is The year of the retired legends, there are plenty of them - MC, SuperNova included... | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
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Strela
Netherlands1896 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:07 WrathSCII wrote: LOL Like StarCraft II needs more... Was the transition from WoL to HotS like this? Mass retirements and dark future about WCS? Yea starcraft is the only game/sport whatever you want to call it where players retire  | ||
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I_love_sharkpeople
United States253 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On December 17 2015 17:40 Veluvian wrote: Actually this year is The year of the retired legends, there are plenty of them - MC, SuperNova included... No disrespect to SuperNova, but I wouldn't exactly classify him as a legend. | ||
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Raimzz
Estonia5 Posts
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messioso
Denmark635 Posts
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wjat
385 Posts
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TheLittleOtter
Norway11 Posts
Goodbye MMA, love you! Best of luck to you in the future! | ||
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jonich0n
United States1982 Posts
On December 17 2015 07:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Considering what? MMA was far more successful in SC2 than Flash was, and unless you watched BW, MMA would have been a lot more memorable. Of course MMA was far more successful in SC2 than MMA was. More decorated for sure. But again, would have been interesting to see how he fared in later-2013 through 2015 if he stuck in Korea the entire and tried to grind it out in the Korean being a regular for a top Proleague team but he didn't go that route... anyway just saying, I'll leave it there.. Don't get your panties in a bunch. [Another "hater" I presume huh]. I really enjoyed watching MMA play and have massive respect for his accomplishments. Just saying it's hard to measure up with someone like FlaSh entire Starcraft legacy and his impact on the game in general, on the who, who similarly just recently retired and was a player I personally loved hence why I made that comment. That is all... Interesting you'd pick up just that part of post to reply to like that... but I guess that speaks to the some sections of the fans and their fandom with SC2. | ||
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jonich0n
United States1982 Posts
On December 17 2015 08:07 OtherWorld wrote: "Form is temporary. Class is permanent." I've always loved this saying, and it's inspiring when the "older" heads come back against the odds to acheive some sort of success when big changes in games/sports/etc occur and they come back after many have counted them out and show some of their past true brilliance, despite any possible personal problems or other compromising issues (health, decline in mechanical skill, that kind of stuff). MMA was always a warrior and real champion, and that attitude is always inspiring to see. Again, sad to see him go now, even it was kind of seen coming. | ||
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Superbanana
2369 Posts
I guess many decided to leave with LotV since learning a new game just to quit a few months afterwards doesn't make sense. Now, the problem really is that we don't have enough new faces, but they do exist and its probably enough. Its not keeping up with retirements but SC2 has more than enough players atm. | ||
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Celepharn
Mexico60 Posts
His play was so memorable, the legacy of BoxeR. Still remember that first WCS finals I watched, MMA did a hidden rax to MC and beat him in the most impressive way I had seen like ever. Farewell MMA, we love you for you will forever be in our memories. | ||
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SantosPhillipCarlo
United States351 Posts
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cop354g
61 Posts
On December 18 2015 04:13 Superbanana wrote: Keep in mind MMA, like many recent retirements, are guys with relatively long progaming careers. You cannot do this forever. I guess many decided to leave with LotV since learning a new game just to quit a few months afterwards doesn't make sense. Now, the problem really is that we don't have enough new faces, but they do exist and its probably enough. Its not keeping up with retirements but SC2 has more than enough players atm. You could easily be succesful progamer well into your 30s. Actually one of the best csgo players are almoust 30, people tend to play cs longer than sc. People retiring around 25 or even earlier, very likely doesnt have to do anything with actual age itself. | ||
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munch
Mute City2363 Posts
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shin ken
Germany612 Posts
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Hitokiri1
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MMA was the main reason i started loving starcraft, his inspiring play at the finals with Losira at MLG made me realise how awesome starcraft could be, since that day MMA was like my idol and i've never followed someone as much as i did with him, i must have watched more that 90% of his streamed played games for sure. Guess i started playing with him and will stop playing with him as well. Thank u friend for all this years with me i'll miss you. | ||
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RevTiberius
Canada353 Posts
"Pro-gaming sucks, I shouldn't have wasted so many years of my life on this bullshit" ? | ||
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Rustug
1488 Posts
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HonorZ
France858 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On December 19 2015 16:35 RevTiberius wrote: Just curious... has any pro-gamer after retiring ever said anything along these lines: "Pro-gaming sucks, I shouldn't have wasted so many years of my life on this bullshit" ? Usually the ones who are not very successful - in that case, their retirement usually comes with little fanfare and notice. The ones whose retirements we notice are the successful ones usually, and they have the tournament titles, $$$ and fans. | ||
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NewModel
Germany124 Posts
On December 20 2015 06:54 Bagration wrote: Usually the ones who are not very successful - in that case, their retirement usually comes with little fanfare and notice. The ones whose retirements we notice are the successful ones usually, and they have the tournament titles, $$$ and fans. even the one who wheren´t to successful are more like "yeah maybe i should quit faster but it was fun" i remember darkforce for example said something like that after his retirement (i´m not 100% sure that he was the one). but i think that nobody who has no fun in playing would be a progamer for a longer time, so even if it is a "mistake" in the economic way most players don´t judge there career by that aspect. | ||
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Deathstar
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
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DuckloadBlackra
225 Posts
Can't get attached to any korean players because the military will make almost all of them retire after a few years or less. | ||
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DuckloadBlackra
225 Posts
On December 18 2015 18:09 Hitokiri1 wrote: This is very sad to me but expected, and i think a smart choice to retire now. MMA was the main reason i started loving starcraft, his inspiring play at the finals with Losira at MLG made me realise how awesome starcraft could be, since that day MMA was like my idol and i've never followed someone as much as i did with him, i must have watched more that 90% of his streamed played games for sure. Guess i started playing with him and will stop playing with him as well. Thank u friend for all this years with me i'll miss you. Oh that bolded part is so true! That MLG was the most fun I've ever had watching any tournament and that incredible final vs Losira showed how amazing the game could be. One of the biggest highlights for me since I started watching Starcraft in March 2011 | ||
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NikaLogy
Denmark58 Posts
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fireforce7
United States334 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On December 17 2015 02:13 dr3am_b3ing wrote: Doesn't anybody else find it strangely coincidental that a lot of Korean progamers are "retiring" due to this reason or something along those lines? I can't be the only one who senses war or something else being foreshadowed yeah war isnt gonna happen probably ever | ||
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On December 19 2015 16:35 RevTiberius wrote: Just curious... has any pro-gamer after retiring ever said anything along these lines: "Pro-gaming sucks, I shouldn't have wasted so many years of my life on this bullshit" ? It's not a waste of time if you're like Flash I guess. You earn a lot of money before you're 18, then you retire when you're 23-24 years old (slightly earlier could have been ideal if I were Flash) and go for a university degree. For anyone else, it's probably a waste if time unless they want to get some degree which won't help earn much money. | ||
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Lappen.464
Germany42 Posts
1st and till now only Player to win a premier tournament in all 3 parts of Starcraft2. | ||
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Fryryx
France7 Posts
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NewModel
Germany124 Posts
@Fryryx how could he? i thougt he is doing his millitary service now, and i don´t think they are supportive for him as they where when boxer had to do his service :D | ||
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cop354g
61 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On December 21 2015 08:55 cop354g wrote: MMA actually got decent retirement ceremony at HSC with MC singing beautifully. Can't wait till the vod of that is up. Unexpectedly incredible. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
So happy to see him go out on top! | ||
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Descent
1244 Posts
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
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Shinokuki
United States859 Posts
On December 17 2015 03:24 cop354g wrote: Why do thise high quality players retire so young? Especially flash. They notice that SC2 scene isn't big as it once was. They used to play brood war and was "forced" to play sc2 because blizzard and kespa said so. Well you make the two points. Also, all progamers who leave sc2 and come to afreeca seem to say "sc2 was pure no fun" and start playing bw without even buying LOTV | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
On December 21 2015 08:58 TheDougler wrote: Can't wait till the vod of that is up. Unexpectedly incredible. Stolen from LR thread. | ||
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Bjarne
Germany192 Posts
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China6329 Posts
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