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Johan-ae
Profile Joined November 2013
Sweden58 Posts
December 15 2015 12:22 GMT
#61
Overcome SKT and join Samsung please :O
JonnySC2
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany119 Posts
December 15 2015 12:29 GMT
#62
Would be really sad to see him retitre since he is my favorite player but i am kinda expecting it unless the WCS rumours turn out to be completly wrong.
I doubt that any Korean team would pick up a player that cant play in PL. Only way we could see him in Korea is SKT picks him up or KeSPA decides to break their on rules and puts him on some sort of a 8th team.
SKT best KT
insitelol
Profile Joined August 2012
845 Posts
December 15 2015 12:42 GMT
#63
Btw there is still one team slot left in PL. any rumors?
Less is more.
JonnySC2
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany119 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-15 12:48:20
December 15 2015 12:48 GMT
#64
On December 15 2015 21:42 insitelol wrote:
Btw there is still one team slot left in PL. any rumors?


There is no team that could potentially fill the void at the moment, so I guess almost everyone is expecting KeSPA to create a new 8th team. But nothing official yet. Guess we have to wait for PL Media Day.
SKT best KT
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
December 15 2015 12:54 GMT
#65
On December 15 2015 21:42 insitelol wrote:
Btw there is still one team slot left in PL. any rumors?

All I've heard is TB saying Axiom was going to play in Proleague until his situation got worse and Axiom disbanded.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 15 2015 14:14 GMT
#66
they will let foreigners play online mode and the score will start at 1:0 in a bo3 format. To show of korean dominance so everyone watching gets a superiority complex boost.
showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
December 15 2015 15:19 GMT
#67
I'm sad for mYi and Rain but this isn't one to stick on the supposed region lock. Rain was playing in the GSL anyway.
There is no understanding. There is only Choya. Choya is the way. Choya is Love. Choya is Life. Has is the Light in the Protoss Dark and Nightmare is his chosen Acolyte
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44319 Posts
December 15 2015 15:21 GMT
#68
Please back to SKT!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
JonnySC2
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany119 Posts
December 15 2015 15:21 GMT
#69
On December 16 2015 00:19 showstealer1829 wrote:
I'm sad for mYi and Rain but this isn't one to stick on the supposed region lock. Rain was playing in the GSL anyway.


If IEMs, Dreamhacks etc. are region locked it doesn't make any sense for mYi to have Rain on their roster, so it maybe is because of the region lock rumours.
SKT best KT
ktFlash_fans
Profile Joined November 2015
1 Post
December 15 2015 15:39 GMT
#70
Maybe because WCS next season will change, just hope he doesn't like FlaSh... ...
RewardedFool
Profile Joined July 2015
17 Posts
December 15 2015 15:49 GMT
#71
To add more fuel to the proleague nonsense, when TCM said that they were trying to put together a "Foreign teams in Korea" team for Proleaguem they said that they had managed to get KeSPA teams to release player rights to them. I can only think of SKT who've really had controversies over this, so it looks hopeful that if a team is set up that they will all be able to play.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
December 15 2015 20:06 GMT
#72
I'm not the biggest Rain-fan, but he does belong in Korea. I hope he returns.
Flash | Mvp
NyxNax
Profile Joined March 2014
United States227 Posts
December 15 2015 21:02 GMT
#73
On December 15 2015 17:29 OtherWorld wrote:
CJ.Rain


god id LOVE to see Rain on CJ, but unless Kespa, er SKT will let him play I dont see it happening. Such a long ban in esports... So Lame.
Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
December 16 2015 09:13 GMT
#74
If Rain goes back to SKT I will probably switch my flair to SKT, 2014 Rain is my favorite SC2 player, but whatever he does, please don't retire
My heroes: Jangbi, Bisu, Stork and BeSt for BW, Rain, Zest and Stats for SC2! Need a better Signature tbh...
iamkaokao
Profile Joined March 2011
108 Posts
December 17 2015 00:44 GMT
#75
i wont let him retire dw
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
December 18 2015 13:22 GMT
#76
Ok, here goes some mad theorycrafting/borderline-slander based off a few clips and 1 encounter.

Theory:
These guys just can't stand it anymore. They have enough star-power to make it without SKT (or so we thought ... ?). Something is bothering them so bad, that they would rather leave SKT (before contract and screw their Proleague opportunities), leave their guaranteed-spot and guaranteed retirement + Show Spoiler [tangent] +
(e.g. like Reach had with KTF)
to avoid whatever it is.
Oov is a backbreaking overly-demanding boss who's too harsh, strict, and extreme with his players (even by Asian-parent standards).


Evidence:
Sure, it might be because how they feel about SC2 right now, rather than the manager's fault - but I never remember this sort of 'string of top players willing to breach their contract to leave a team' under any other head-coach.

Oov's demeanour looked that way when I saw him. IRL he was very stern, intimidating, and cold. If I had a boss whose body-language and way-of-relating was like his, I'd be very scared of disappointing him. Which'd screw me, because his standards are likely impossibly high.

Mother Love >> Strict Boss

Ofc this is my favorite finals, so I'll link it every chance I get, but I feel it's really telling. Jaedong's just gone 0:2 → 2:2, and his mom is going crazy with support. The two SKT coaches take FanTaSy aside to have a word. What stands out to me is how long and stern the talk was, and the giant contrast in body-language. Look at 14:05. FanTaSy's totally meek, and oov is socially domineering.
Now imagine that situation, without the more personal/heartfelt touch of coach Park there. I'm suggesting it's down to person-problems and team dynamics, with no one there to balance-out oov. Used to be Boxer ffs

[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler [Linking Fomos Disclaimer] +
Yes I know we're not meant to link Fomos, but this was hosted by Plexa and posted on TL in 2009 before that ban, so
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/final-edits/92605-a-deadly-dynasty


And this right here is why I keep coming back to StarCraft - what was going-on behind the scenes? Who are the personalities behind the names, what are they like as people? I'm overjoyed to have briefly met FanTaSy (while still on SKT with Rain and Parting, August 2014), and my fandom/life can be complete if I ever get to unravel the dynamics going on in those shots.
BW4LYF . . . . . . PM me, I LOVE PMs. . . . . . Long live "NaDa's Body" . . . . . . Fantasy | Bisu/Best | Jaedong . . . . .
JonnySC2
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany119 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-18 18:05:13
December 18 2015 18:03 GMT
#77
On December 18 2015 22:22 bITt.mAN wrote:
Ok, here goes some mad theorycrafting/borderline-slander based off a few clips and 1 encounter.

Theory:
These guys just can't stand it anymore. They have enough star-power to make it without SKT (or so we thought ... ?). Something is bothering them so bad, that they would rather leave SKT (before contract and screw their Proleague opportunities), leave their guaranteed-spot and guaranteed retirement + Show Spoiler [tangent] +
(e.g. like Reach had with KTF)
to avoid whatever it is.
Oov is a backbreaking overly-demanding boss who's too harsh, strict, and extreme with his players (even by Asian-parent standards).


Evidence:
Sure, it might be because how they feel about SC2 right now, rather than the manager's fault - but I never remember this sort of 'string of top players willing to breach their contract to leave a team' under any other head-coach.

Oov's demeanour looked that way when I saw him. IRL he was very stern, intimidating, and cold. If I had a boss whose body-language and way-of-relating was like his, I'd be very scared of disappointing him. Which'd screw me, because his standards are likely impossibly high.

Mother Love >> Strict Boss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0APaJEDkBs&t=722
Ofc this is my favorite finals, so I'll link it every chance I get, but I feel it's really telling. Jaedong's just gone 0:2 → 2:2, and his mom is going crazy with support. The two SKT coaches take FanTaSy aside to have a word. What stands out to me is how long and stern the talk was, and the giant contrast in body-language. Look at 14:05. FanTaSy's totally meek, and oov is socially domineering.
Now imagine that situation, without the more personal/heartfelt touch of coach Park there. I'm suggesting it's down to person-problems and team dynamics, with no one there to balance-out oov. Used to be Boxer ffs

[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler [Linking Fomos Disclaimer] +
Yes I know we're not meant to link Fomos, but this was hosted by Plexa and posted on TL in 2009 before that ban, so
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/final-edits/92605-a-deadly-dynasty


And this right here is why I keep coming back to StarCraft - what was going-on behind the scenes? Who are the personalities behind the names, what are they like as people? I'm overjoyed to have briefly met FanTaSy (while still on SKT with Rain and Parting, August 2014), and my fandom/life can be complete if I ever get to unravel the dynamics going on in those shots.


Really interesting theory and in a general a really fascinating topic. Its kinda sad that there is so little information about how the relationships between the players/coaches really are behind the scenes.

But in this case it never looked like SKT had any team chemistry issues, atleast judging from the videos and photos they post on YouTube and Twitter/Facebook.
SKT best KT
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
December 18 2015 18:08 GMT
#78
No, oov never seems like a guy who's overly harsh in any videos SKT does. Seemed like a jolly father figure in the last ones I saw. He might be very strict when it comes to the game itself, but beyond that?

I mean, he started tearing up on stage after the Proleague finals telling all his players what they mean to him, especially the ones who don't get regular playtime.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
OrangeGarage
Profile Joined October 2015
Korea (South)319 Posts
December 19 2015 06:12 GMT
#79
Rain confirmed resting due to liver transplant for his father. Said it himself on Flash's retirement ceremony. There is an article about it on Daily ESports.
I am drone! My dream is Hatchery!
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