• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:06
CEST 18:06
KST 01:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers19Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data needed ASL21 General Discussion FlaSh: This Will Be My Final ASL【ASL S21 Ro.16】 BW General Discussion
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1904 users

Player List for HSC XII - Page 11

Forum Index > SC2 General
234 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 Next All
Velmont
Profile Joined December 2015
Germany2 Posts
December 14 2015 10:31 GMT
#201
MMA confirmed! :D It will be a pleasure to meet him, can't wait!
Form is Temporary, Class is Permanent
Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
December 14 2015 10:43 GMT
#202
So much zergs :O
In memory of Geoff "iNcontroL" Robinson 11.09.1985 - 21.07.2019 A tribute to incredible man, embodiment of joy, esports titan, starcraft community pillar all in one. You will always be remembered!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-14 13:41:38
December 14 2015 13:32 GMT
#203
(T)TOP hype!!!

Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 14 2015 15:14 GMT
#204
eh I like that Top is there. The rest seems pretty standard but I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it. Should be fun although I would've liked to see some more new faces to HSC!
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 14 2015 15:15 GMT
#205


Damn, I hope he is allright!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
TaKeTV
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1200 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-14 15:30:25
December 14 2015 15:30 GMT
#206
I talked to TOP - he will go to hospital tomorrow morning but he said it will be fine and he can come to HSC. Edit: also TaeJa was invited but does play GSL/SSL preseason so he cannot come as well.

- NarutO
Commentator
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-14 16:36:06
December 14 2015 16:33 GMT
#207
On December 12 2015 03:06 NarutO wrote:
If players are so shit skillwise you should try to qualify next time NonY - its not Heart of the Swarm and certainly not Broodwar. So obviously you also have to give new talent a chance. In addition - HSC wasn't about inviting 32 top players but having a great tournament and atmosphere around it. If you fail to realize that after 11 editions I am sorry.

Also obviously the lineup lacks when most Koreans cannot participate due to GSL/SSL commitments. Bummer. Any more honest questions I can answer? I simply believe if your questions are honest you have no grasp on social media. Also - bumping a threat the whole time with basically meaningless stuff. Anyways. Have a good time - we will sure have a great HSC

Why should I try to qualify wtf? You tell every random fan who judges a tournament's lineup that they should try to qualify?

On December 10 2015 00:20 Phaenoman wrote:
Rotti as player? Who is next then? Kaelaris?
As good as Rotti may be. There is a huge gap between him and a majority of players there. Well, at least have fun Rotti.

If Rotti is so bad maybe you should try to qualify.

On December 10 2015 00:23 showstealer1829 wrote:
Rotti was one of the replacements since Solar, Stork, Reality and Zest have the GSL qualifiers.

But yeah, I know HSC isn't about the games and all but this list is underwhelming to say the least

If it's so underwhelming then maybe you should try to qualify.

On December 10 2015 00:36 Ej_ wrote:
wasn't HSC going to become part of the WCS circuit with the removal of the actual WCS league? pretty silly to have Rotterdam...
I guess it's a bit different though since they are going to feature Koreans

If it's so silly to have Rotti maybe you should try to qualify.

On December 10 2015 00:37 evolsiefil wrote:
disappointing.

If you're so disappointed maybe you should try to qualify.

On December 10 2015 00:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
At least this list isn't completely HyuNderwhelming! <3

If it's mostly underwhelming then maybe you should try to qualify.

.....

And that's just the first page. There are plenty more on other pages. I don't know why you all decided to be dicks to me while letting all the people shitting on your players slide, saying nothing more than "this isn't the full list" to them but ganging up on me for asking perfectly innocent questions. I'm sure that if MC had a few drinks and is sitting on the couch and said "why tree?" then it would be something you all think (or pretend to think) is hilarious and go along with it. If a player says another player sucks that would probably also be fine, like in the spirit of "fun trash talking", but if I merely point out that a ton of the comments before me are saying the lineup sucks then that's some horrible thing?

You could have been cool with it but you decided to single me out, even when there were better targets, to make it completely clear you don't like me. And then a couple days later continue it on Twitter. And I wouldn't be surprised if a joke is made about me at the event, although probably not on camera because you wouldn't want to be seen even mentioning me. But yeah, play it off like you're the cool guys who are just being cool and doing good things for the community and you got harassed by some crazy guy. The truth is you're just a bunch of dicks for no reason when you feel like it. I've got the gist of it after 11 editions. You do dumb shit and then laugh about it. But apparently if you think what I'm doing is dumb then it's an excuse to shit on me.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
marconi
Profile Joined March 2010
Croatia220 Posts
December 14 2015 16:54 GMT
#208
I'm guessing it's some new experimental drug
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-14 17:48:27
December 14 2015 17:07 GMT
#209
I'm sorry... what?

You aren't allowed to be disappointed in a lineup if you're not a pro player now? Come on... wanting to see the best players isn't some horrible insult. It's just unfortunate how it worked out with GSL/SSL.

I'm sure the event will be great anyway though.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 14 2015 17:21 GMT
#210
Seriously NonY, why do you exist in this thread?
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-14 17:45:46
December 14 2015 17:34 GMT
#211
On December 15 2015 02:21 Clonester wrote:
Seriously NonY, why do you exist in this thread?

Your reply came right after someone agreeing with me... The people behind this event and the people defending those people are acting in a fucked up way and I'm just defending myself. If you look at what I've done in this thread, it started with me showing an honest interest in the event, which I thought was especially nice to the people behind the event because so many other people were saying the lineup was weak (which I agree they have a right to say and it's not inappropriate to say it), so I was changing the topic. But then everyone treated me like shit and I was extremely patient for a while until it got to be too much when several people were saying I was the one being negative and being a "troll" when the truth is that I was the one changing the topic AWAY from OTHER people's negativity. And then when I point this out, NarutO gets on ME for bringing up the "weak lineup" and gives me shit for it, saying I should try to qualify if I'm going to say anything about. And that's just fucking ridiculous, which I clearly demonstrated by showing how stupid it is to tell every person being critical of the lineup that they should try to qualify. And it's EXTRA ridiculous because I was the one trying to steer it all away from the "weak lineup" talk! And he's just being an idiot pinning it on me.

If I had to guess, I would think that the people behind the event are a bit sad that the community has had as many negative reactions to their lineup as it did, especially because they aren't totally responsible for it (circumstances are more difficult now than they have been in the past to get a lot of top Koreans). And because of this, they couldn't keep their composure and remain professional and irrationally took it out on me.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-14 17:42:44
December 14 2015 17:42 GMT
#212
Hey, i wasn't a fan at first but this final lineup ain't bad !

Top's actually a very cool fella, hope to see him casting some games :D

also : LILBOW,MDLORD,STEPH,CAKEONFIRE,DAYCHAUD FRANCE INVASION FUCK YEEEEAH.
I want an all frenchies cast, you owe us that take
RIP MKP
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5613 Posts
December 14 2015 17:46 GMT
#213
On December 15 2015 02:21 Clonester wrote:
Seriously NonY, why do you exist in this thread?

The Christmas tree was too sappy for his taste.
don't wall off against random
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 14 2015 17:48 GMT
#214
On December 15 2015 02:34 NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 02:21 Clonester wrote:
Seriously NonY, why do you exist in this thread?

Your reply came right after someone agreeing with me... The people behind this event and the people defending those people are acting in a fucked up way and I'm just defending myself.


No, you started with your "why the hell are these guys on a christmas tree?" posts, continued with some super strange pictures of actual christmas tree and now started to hang over the players.

You should know why the Lineup is how the lineup is: After the HSC has been announced and players like Zest and Solar have accepted invites, GSL and SSL announced their Qualifiers/PreSeason-Event and thus fucked up alot of planning.

The Lineup consists pretty much the whole Top EU players + TaKes friends like Rotterdam, in a phase where no SC II is going on in Europe (and so in the timeslots from 14.00CET to 24.00CET).

And NarutO is right, when you, as ex progamer critizes a lineup without alot of Koreans, while your TSL status comes from a tournament without any Koreans.

That you still write wall of textes seems that you got really butthurt by something of this HSC. Nobody knows what, is it the use of christmas? The lack of koreans? That Rotterdam got a invite and you not? You come back and come back to make up things nobody understands. It is not like I am the only one who askes what has happend to you, that you act here like you act.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
marconi
Profile Joined March 2010
Croatia220 Posts
December 14 2015 18:08 GMT
#215
It's hard to live on old fame.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
December 14 2015 18:35 GMT
#216
Maybe because as a former pro player I expect some respect towards the pros participating in the tournament. For some people you might still be someone to look up to. I always had a pretty good picture of you but I guess that is gone. How can anyone be such an idiot on purpose as well.

I can understand people that are disappointed to not have more Koreans and refer to this lineup inferior to a lineup with KeSPa Koreans but flat out calling those players subpar or bad is disrespectful.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
December 14 2015 19:48 GMT
#217
Just wanna say that I find the line-up pretty amazing already, even without considering the fact that a lot of koreans could not come even if they wanted to!

The game is new (and I'd say it has more potential for fun as a player and spectator), having that many good foreigners, some returning a bit (Shura/Stephano for example!) and the fun HSC casting will make for a very nice viewer experience that I'm looking forward to!


There are a lot of French players as well .

I did not read the whole thread but will ToD be there to cast? Would be nice.
WriterMaru
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 14 2015 19:58 GMT
#218
Go MMA
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 14 2015 20:04 GMT
#219
On December 15 2015 04:48 Poopi wrote:
Just wanna say that I find the line-up pretty amazing already, even without considering the fact that a lot of koreans could not come even if they wanted to!

The game is new (and I'd say it has more potential for fun as a player and spectator), having that many good foreigners, some returning a bit (Shura/Stephano for example!) and the fun HSC casting will make for a very nice viewer experience that I'm looking forward to!


There are a lot of French players as well .

I did not read the whole thread but will ToD be there to cast? Would be nice.


Can well all agree that we will not call Scarlett Shura? She will always be Scarlett and has no say in this!

+ Show Spoiler +
She also said that she doesn't mind.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
December 14 2015 21:08 GMT
#220
On December 15 2015 02:48 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2015 02:34 NonY wrote:
On December 15 2015 02:21 Clonester wrote:
Seriously NonY, why do you exist in this thread?

Your reply came right after someone agreeing with me... The people behind this event and the people defending those people are acting in a fucked up way and I'm just defending myself.


No, you started with your "why the hell are these guys on a christmas tree?" posts, continued with some super strange pictures of actual christmas tree and now started to hang over the players.

You should know why the Lineup is how the lineup is: After the HSC has been announced and players like Zest and Solar have accepted invites, GSL and SSL announced their Qualifiers/PreSeason-Event and thus fucked up alot of planning.

The Lineup consists pretty much the whole Top EU players + TaKes friends like Rotterdam, in a phase where no SC II is going on in Europe (and so in the timeslots from 14.00CET to 24.00CET).

And NarutO is right, when you, as ex progamer critizes a lineup without alot of Koreans, while your TSL status comes from a tournament without any Koreans.

That you still write wall of textes seems that you got really butthurt by something of this HSC. Nobody knows what, is it the use of christmas? The lack of koreans? That Rotterdam got a invite and you not? You come back and come back to make up things nobody understands. It is not like I am the only one who askes what has happend to you, that you act here like you act.

You literally can't comprehend a person participating in a discussion without any ego. That's how fucked up you are and all the people like you. You read a discussion not at face value but rather "who is the author, what is his history, and is he trying to wrong me in some way?" It is pathetic and I can't continue to reply in earnest when I just get this degenerate behavior in response. You expect negative behavior so much that you invent it when it isn't even there. You can't just read words objectively and reply to them objectively. It's always this insecure "Am I being trolled?" and "What negative thing could he mean by this?" Simply ridiculous. There's so much wrong in this reply you've just written to me and it's all a matter of your warped perception, misconstruing what I was actually saying and doing, because you attribute some malicious intent to me that was never there until I finally had enough of people treating me like shit. You could read the actual words in the thread and see clear evidence of how long I maintained a neutral and sincere tone even while other people were being rude to me.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Prev 1 9 10 11 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
15:00
Season 2 - Bonus Cup 8
uThermal341
mouzHeroMarine255
IndyStarCraft 185
RotterdaM0
LiquipediaDiscussion
Ladder Legends
15:00
Valedictorian Cup #1
Bunny vs GgMaChine
ByuN vs Percival
MaxPax vs Krystianer
Solar vs Cham
SteadfastSC70
Liquipedia
PSISTORM Gaming Misc
14:55
FSL s10 Code S FINALS
Freeedom17
Liquipedia
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
11:00
Playoffs Day 3
MaxPax vs Percival
herO vs Clem
WardiTV1424
IntoTheiNu 340
Ryung 160
Rex122
EnkiAlexander 56
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
uThermal 341
mouzHeroMarine 255
IndyStarCraft 185
Ryung 160
Rex 122
SteadfastSC 70
ProTech49
BRAT_OK 47
Vindicta 17
EmSc Tv 4
RotterdaM 0
StarCraft: Brood War
EffOrt 1725
Stork 562
actioN 331
ggaemo 328
firebathero 289
Hyun 163
Dewaltoss 100
Sharp 97
Pusan 67
Barracks 62
[ Show more ]
soO 54
ToSsGirL 54
Free 39
Noble 26
Sexy 26
Rock 23
IntoTheRainbow 19
yabsab 13
GoRush 13
Terrorterran 11
Dota 2
Gorgc5835
qojqva1490
Counter-Strike
fl0m1738
byalli924
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor816
Liquid`Hasu405
MindelVK12
Other Games
singsing2183
B2W.Neo1053
FrodaN834
DeMusliM317
XBOCT315
QueenE296
Sick279
Lowko234
mouzStarbuck164
KnowMe85
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream14176
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 4
EmSc2Tv 4
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 14
• Dystopia_ 5
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix8
• Airneanach8
• Michael_bg 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos4506
• TFBlade1321
Other Games
• WagamamaTV306
• Shiphtur232
Upcoming Events
BSL
2h 54m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
17h 54m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
18h 54m
Ladder Legends
22h 54m
BSL
1d 2h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
Wardi Open
1d 17h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 17h
Soma vs hero
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 23h
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Leta vs YSC
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Escore
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.