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[S2SL] Ro8 Day 1: The Usual Suspects - S2 2015 - Page 3

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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 21 2015 13:11 GMT
#41
On May 21 2015 21:53 helius788 wrote:
nice games today!
Just one thing: Can we please stop calling Life "best player of the world", when he can't beat dream (quite good, but at best a top3 terran atm) in a macro game and even losing on a zerg favoured map in a straight up game.
So TL can we please stop calling him the best? thx :D

No
AdministratorBreak the chains
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-21 13:48:55
May 21 2015 13:47 GMT
#42
On May 21 2015 21:53 helius788 wrote:
nice games today!
Just one thing: Can we please stop calling Life "best player of the world", when he can't beat dream (quite good, but at best a top3 terran atm) in a macro game and even losing on a zerg favoured map in a straight up game.
So TL can we please stop calling him the best? thx :D

He won last GSL and made Kespa cup semis (trashing Dream in ro8). He also won last foreign tournament he played in over the recent SSL winner and curently the best Terran in the world (Maru). Oh and he beat both PartinG and herO on his way to the GSL trophy.
If you have a winning record vs every other player in top 4 and are 1-2 in series, and 8-8 in maps vs arguably the best TvZ player in the world (and top 3 Terran) (Dream), are you not the best player in the world? The only person who atm matches Life in consistency vs top players and could be argued to be the best is herO.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
TsogiMaster
Profile Joined October 2014
191 Posts
May 21 2015 13:50 GMT
#43
On May 21 2015 07:11 Alucen-Will- wrote:
(T)Dream 3-2 (Z)Life
(P)HerO 3-2 (T)Maru

I'm betting permanently against the TL writers these days, anything less would be wrong.


Also I've given up on trying to get the real herO TLPD. I'm convinced Olli is behind these shenanigans.


Sick Prediction dude. U should work for TL as a prediction king.
Gaming is love. Gaming is life.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
May 21 2015 13:55 GMT
#44
On May 21 2015 07:11 Alucen-Will- wrote:
(T)Dream 3-2 (Z)Life
(P)HerO 3-2 (T)Maru

I'm betting permanently against the TL writers these days, anything less would be wrong.


Also I've given up on trying to get the real herO TLPD. I'm convinced Olli is behind these shenanigans.

it's (P)herO[jOin]
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 21 2015 14:43 GMT
#45
On May 21 2015 21:53 helius788 wrote:
nice games today!
Just one thing: Can we please stop calling Life "best player of the world", when he can't beat dream (quite good, but at best a top3 terran atm) in a macro game and even losing on a zerg favoured map in a straight up game.
So TL can we please stop calling him the best? thx :D

Dream is top1 TvZ atm lol
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
May 21 2015 14:49 GMT
#46
On May 21 2015 23:43 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 21:53 helius788 wrote:
nice games today!
Just one thing: Can we please stop calling Life "best player of the world", when he can't beat dream (quite good, but at best a top3 terran atm) in a macro game and even losing on a zerg favoured map in a straight up game.
So TL can we please stop calling him the best? thx :D

Dream is top1 TvZ atm lol

In bio-based macro games, you have to add. In all-ins I wouldn't trust him as much and his mech is never used *shrug*.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 21 2015 14:54 GMT
#47
On May 21 2015 23:49 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 23:43 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 21 2015 21:53 helius788 wrote:
nice games today!
Just one thing: Can we please stop calling Life "best player of the world", when he can't beat dream (quite good, but at best a top3 terran atm) in a macro game and even losing on a zerg favoured map in a straight up game.
So TL can we please stop calling him the best? thx :D

Dream is top1 TvZ atm lol

In bio-based macro games, you have to add. In all-ins I wouldn't trust him as much and his mech is never used *shrug*.

Fair enough, but why all-in or mech when you can Dream your opponent to death?^^
Used Sigs - New Sigs - Cheap Sigs - Buy the Best Cheap Sig near You at www.cheapsigforsale.com
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
May 21 2015 14:57 GMT
#48
On May 21 2015 23:54 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 23:49 Elentos wrote:
On May 21 2015 23:43 OtherWorld wrote:
On May 21 2015 21:53 helius788 wrote:
nice games today!
Just one thing: Can we please stop calling Life "best player of the world", when he can't beat dream (quite good, but at best a top3 terran atm) in a macro game and even losing on a zerg favoured map in a straight up game.
So TL can we please stop calling him the best? thx :D

Dream is top1 TvZ atm lol

In bio-based macro games, you have to add. In all-ins I wouldn't trust him as much and his mech is never used *shrug*.

Fair enough, but why all-in or mech when you can Dream your opponent to death?^^

I dunno. Dream's style is pretty greedy, I feel like he doesn't get all-inned enough. I remember the last Code S where he went down 0-2 to Solar because of nydus play. So it's not only performing all-ins, it's also defending them. That, and the pathetic proxy reaper attempt Dream made during KeSPA Cup T_T.

He's pretty great though.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 21 2015 15:17 GMT
#49
On May 21 2015 22:11 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 21:53 helius788 wrote:
nice games today!
Just one thing: Can we please stop calling Life "best player of the world", when he can't beat dream (quite good, but at best a top3 terran atm) in a macro game and even losing on a zerg favoured map in a straight up game.
So TL can we please stop calling him the best? thx :D

No

Life is only 9th on TLPD elo brah. he sux
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
May 21 2015 15:51 GMT
#50
On May 22 2015 00:17 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 22:11 Zealously wrote:
On May 21 2015 21:53 helius788 wrote:
nice games today!
Just one thing: Can we please stop calling Life "best player of the world", when he can't beat dream (quite good, but at best a top3 terran atm) in a macro game and even losing on a zerg favoured map in a straight up game.
So TL can we please stop calling him the best? thx :D

No

Life is only 9th on TLPD elo brah. he sux

What tournament did Rain win to get 4th is what I wanna know.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
May 21 2015 16:36 GMT
#51
DREAM YOU FUCKING BEAUTY
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 21 2015 18:48 GMT
#52
On May 22 2015 00:51 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 00:17 Shellshock wrote:
On May 21 2015 22:11 Zealously wrote:
On May 21 2015 21:53 helius788 wrote:
nice games today!
Just one thing: Can we please stop calling Life "best player of the world", when he can't beat dream (quite good, but at best a top3 terran atm) in a macro game and even losing on a zerg favoured map in a straight up game.
So TL can we please stop calling him the best? thx :D

No

Life is only 9th on TLPD elo brah. he sux

What tournament did Rain win to get 4th is what I wanna know.

looks like ASL S4 Prime League and winning his Code S group
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TL+ Member
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 21 2015 18:49 GMT
#53
On May 21 2015 22:50 TsogiMaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 07:11 Alucen-Will- wrote:
(T)Dream 3-2 (Z)Life
(P)HerO 3-2 (T)Maru

I'm betting permanently against the TL writers these days, anything less would be wrong.


Also I've given up on trying to get the real herO TLPD. I'm convinced Olli is behind these shenanigans.


Sick Prediction dude. U should work for TL as a prediction king.


Thanks, I just bet against the TL predictions! It works almost every time!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
May 21 2015 18:51 GMT
#54
On May 22 2015 03:49 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 22:50 TsogiMaster wrote:
On May 21 2015 07:11 Alucen-Will- wrote:
(T)Dream 3-2 (Z)Life
(P)HerO 3-2 (T)Maru

I'm betting permanently against the TL writers these days, anything less would be wrong.


Also I've given up on trying to get the real herO TLPD. I'm convinced Olli is behind these shenanigans.


Sick Prediction dude. U should work for TL as a prediction king.


Thanks, I just bet against the TL predictions! It works almost every time!

What happens if you join TL writers though...
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 21 2015 18:52 GMT
#55
On May 22 2015 03:51 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 03:49 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 21 2015 22:50 TsogiMaster wrote:
On May 21 2015 07:11 Alucen-Will- wrote:
(T)Dream 3-2 (Z)Life
(P)HerO 3-2 (T)Maru

I'm betting permanently against the TL writers these days, anything less would be wrong.


Also I've given up on trying to get the real herO TLPD. I'm convinced Olli is behind these shenanigans.


Sick Prediction dude. U should work for TL as a prediction king.


Thanks, I just bet against the TL predictions! It works almost every time!

What happens if you join TL writers though...


Than the TL predictions would be much better, of course.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 21 2015 18:55 GMT
#56
On May 22 2015 03:52 Alucen-Will- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 03:51 The_Templar wrote:
On May 22 2015 03:49 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 21 2015 22:50 TsogiMaster wrote:
On May 21 2015 07:11 Alucen-Will- wrote:
(T)Dream 3-2 (Z)Life
(P)HerO 3-2 (T)Maru

I'm betting permanently against the TL writers these days, anything less would be wrong.


Also I've given up on trying to get the real herO TLPD. I'm convinced Olli is behind these shenanigans.


Sick Prediction dude. U should work for TL as a prediction king.


Thanks, I just bet against the TL predictions! It works almost every time!

What happens if you join TL writers though...


Than the TL predictions would be much better, of course.


You realize we spend less than 1% of the time thinking about the predictions? Like they are literally completely unimportant in the grand scheme, the effort is put into writing the actual article. Predictions could go and I doubt many writers would care
AdministratorBreak the chains
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-21 18:58:38
May 21 2015 18:57 GMT
#57
On May 21 2015 21:53 helius788 wrote:
nice games today!
Just one thing: Can we please stop calling Life "best player of the world", when he can't beat dream (quite good, but at best a top3 terran atm) in a macro game and even losing on a zerg favoured map in a straight up game.
So TL can we please stop calling him the best? thx :D


Whoelse?
Maru? Dropped out today as well. herO? Maybe the closest, but Life has still been more successful lately.Everyone else is not even close to their achievements. Life is still on the top, simply because he gets the really good results more consistently than everyone else.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 21 2015 19:11 GMT
#58
On May 22 2015 03:55 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 03:52 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 22 2015 03:51 The_Templar wrote:
On May 22 2015 03:49 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 21 2015 22:50 TsogiMaster wrote:
On May 21 2015 07:11 Alucen-Will- wrote:
(T)Dream 3-2 (Z)Life
(P)HerO 3-2 (T)Maru

I'm betting permanently against the TL writers these days, anything less would be wrong.


Also I've given up on trying to get the real herO TLPD. I'm convinced Olli is behind these shenanigans.


Sick Prediction dude. U should work for TL as a prediction king.


Thanks, I just bet against the TL predictions! It works almost every time!

What happens if you join TL writers though...


Than the TL predictions would be much better, of course.


You realize we spend less than 1% of the time thinking about the predictions? Like they are literally completely unimportant in the grand scheme, the effort is put into writing the actual article. Predictions could go and I doubt many writers would care

If that is true, then maybe they should go indeed
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
May 21 2015 19:13 GMT
#59
On May 22 2015 04:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 03:55 Zealously wrote:
On May 22 2015 03:52 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 22 2015 03:51 The_Templar wrote:
On May 22 2015 03:49 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 21 2015 22:50 TsogiMaster wrote:
On May 21 2015 07:11 Alucen-Will- wrote:
(T)Dream 3-2 (Z)Life
(P)HerO 3-2 (T)Maru

I'm betting permanently against the TL writers these days, anything less would be wrong.


Also I've given up on trying to get the real herO TLPD. I'm convinced Olli is behind these shenanigans.


Sick Prediction dude. U should work for TL as a prediction king.


Thanks, I just bet against the TL predictions! It works almost every time!

What happens if you join TL writers though...


Than the TL predictions would be much better, of course.


You realize we spend less than 1% of the time thinking about the predictions? Like they are literally completely unimportant in the grand scheme, the effort is put into writing the actual article. Predictions could go and I doubt many writers would care

If that is true, then maybe they should go indeed


It has always been the case, it's simply tradition to keep them, and it gives readers something to discuss other than the narrative itself (which has always been the primary focus).
AdministratorBreak the chains
Alucen-Will-
Profile Joined October 2014
United States4054 Posts
May 21 2015 19:38 GMT
#60
On May 22 2015 03:55 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 03:52 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 22 2015 03:51 The_Templar wrote:
On May 22 2015 03:49 Alucen-Will- wrote:
On May 21 2015 22:50 TsogiMaster wrote:
On May 21 2015 07:11 Alucen-Will- wrote:
(T)Dream 3-2 (Z)Life
(P)HerO 3-2 (T)Maru

I'm betting permanently against the TL writers these days, anything less would be wrong.


Also I've given up on trying to get the real herO TLPD. I'm convinced Olli is behind these shenanigans.


Sick Prediction dude. U should work for TL as a prediction king.


Thanks, I just bet against the TL predictions! It works almost every time!

What happens if you join TL writers though...


Than the TL predictions would be much better, of course.


You realize we spend less than 1% of the time thinking about the predictions? Like they are literally completely unimportant in the grand scheme, the effort is put into writing the actual article. Predictions could go and I doubt many writers would care



I know, and do know I'm just having a bit of fun nagging the writers. I don't actually have disdain for their predictions.

Obviously the important part of any preview/review of any piece of content is the writing, not the more speculative subjective values we create to provide context in meaning
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