EPTGreatest Players of All Time: Part 1 - Page 9
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Ctesias
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Elentos
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On April 12 2015 05:33 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Just got around to reading the whole thing. I love the fact that you give justification for each ranking and why they're better than the last guy, it makes it feel a lot more definitive and thought out. Whoa there. Is giving justification for a ranking something that needs to be commended these days? That's kind of... sad, don't you think? I mean, if this was stuchiu throwing 15 names at us with no justification I'd not even consider taking this seriously <.<. | ||
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SWARMYYY
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1. MVP 2. Life 3. Taeja 4. MC 5. MMA 6. Polt 7. Nestea 8. Parting 9. Stephano 10. Zest | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17750 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:37 Elentos wrote: Whoa there. Is giving justification for a ranking something that needs to be commended these days? That's kind of... sad, don't you think? I mean, if this was stuchiu throwing 15 names at us with no justification I'd not even consider taking this seriously <.<. he's talking about the part where it directly compares each player to the player below them, most every ranking has the general explanation but not the direct comparison | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:37 Elentos wrote: Whoa there. Is giving justification for a ranking something that needs to be commended these days? That's kind of... sad, don't you think? I mean, if this was stuchiu throwing 15 names at us with no justification I'd not even consider taking this seriously <.<. I mean the specific stuff about runs at the end of each write-up specifically. Obviously there's gonna be justification on any ranking but I like how he specifically went into why number X is better than X+1. | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:39 Die4Ever wrote: he's talking about the part where it directly compares each player to the player below them, most every ranking has the general explanation but not the direct comparison So then something is wrong with this world. Damn it humanity, you have failed us. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17750 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:41 Elentos wrote: So then something is wrong with this world. Damn it humanity, you have failed us. can you link me to a ranking that has such a direct comparison like that for every spot? | ||
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Elentos
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On April 12 2015 05:42 Die4Ever wrote: can you link me to a ranking that has such a direct comparison like that for every spot? I'm saying it's bad they don't always have that, because they should. <.< | ||
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Moxi
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ZackAttack
United States884 Posts
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showBanquo
Sweden182 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Surely you could easily guess at least 5 of them?  ¨ If it should be "of all times", it needs to be people who have made a footprint that lasted for years and that really meant something and (and that will probably be where the actual authors will be at disagreement) it was in Korea, not just beating foreginers/other export Koreans. That would mainly mean to me winning multiple GSL or Starleague titles over several years. Everything other than that needs to be considered on a case by case basis. The players I have zero doubt that belong to this category are Mvp and Life as proven by their actual results. Then it's getting a little bit tricky. - MC? Great start, fell off, kept himself relevant through beating foreigners - MMA? the same - Polt? the same - Taeja? never has even reach a final in Korea, somewhat consistent in GSL, fame aquired by beating foreigners - Parting? slightly more accomplished version of Taeja - Innovation, Zest, Nestea, sOs, Soulkey, soO? strong period quite short, not really "all time" players - MKP? what the fuck I don't even - are there any players that are too underated? maybe, but are they top 10 of all times? probably not. Symbol, Losira, Bomber? probably not. Compared to those, Maru was there from the very beginning. surely, his first great win is as late of 2013, but he has 2 actual starleague titles and he was very impressive outside of these two wins the whole time inbetween. It's quite a difficult task to rank these other players. Using different kinds of metric, almost any order is possible. However, I don't really feel like saying that Maru is the 3rd greatest player of all times - if you think about it in the right way, you can find similar counterarguments to place him that high as well (relatively irrelevant for a couple of years, occassional inconstistence). Because I can't really decide an a good measure, I just went by feeling. Some of this will be against my own arguments presented above. It's just people I feel are really great in some sense. 1. Mvp 2. Life 3. Innovation 4. Rain 5. Parting 6. Maru and then I don't really know at all | ||
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ATiBright
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He has also earned the 2nd most money of any Protoss player aside from MC, yet his results are far more impressive than MC's since 2012. 1. Life 2. Mvp 3. Parting 4. MC 5. Polt 6. Taeja 7. MMA 8. Innovation 9. Zest 10. Nestea | ||
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Elentos
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On April 12 2015 05:51 ATiBright wrote: The number of people who are forgetting Parting in their list disgusts me. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/PartinG He has also earned the 2nd most money of any Protoss player aside from MC, yet his results are far more impressive than MC's since 2012. 1. Life 2. Mvp 3. Parting 4. MC 5. Polt 6. Taeja 7. MMA 8. Innovation 9. Zest 10. sOs Seeing as how sOs is #16 in stuchiu's list, who would you replace him with? | ||
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sharkie
Austria18759 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:51 ATiBright wrote: The number of people who are forgetting Parting in their list disgusts me. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/PartinG He has also earned the 2nd most money of any Protoss player aside from MC, yet his results are far more impressive than MC's since 2012. 1. Life 2. Mvp 3. Parting 4. MC 5. Polt 6. Taeja 7. MMA 8. Innovation 9. Zest 10. sOs MC actually won GSLs | ||
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ATiBright
59 Posts
On April 12 2015 05:55 Elentos wrote: Seeing as how sOs is #16 in stuchiu's list, who would you replace him with? My bad didn't read the last part. Nestea I guess even though it's more nostalgia talking, but I guess he was pretty inventive and did a lot of work for Zerg early on and he is including creativity and meta game shifts as reasons for rankings. @Sharkie, sure MC won 2 GSL's but he was in how many GSL's total, never strung together more then a handful in a row. Parting got a Nestea award and has been in like 18 GSL's, plus he has been competing with the best of the best in Korea since 2012. MC made a fortune off beating up on foreigners and Code A level Koreans for the last few years. | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
On April 12 2015 03:36 Zealously wrote: CAN YOU GUESS THE PLAYERS THAT WILL BE IN PART 2? I'll buy you 3 months of TL+ if you guess right, 6 if you get the order right I'm gunna say Parting, MMA, MC, Polt, and Rain | ||
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Darkdwarf
Sweden960 Posts
 Anyway, this is my list: #15: HerO #14: herO #13: Polt #12: PartinG #11: DRG #10: MC #9: sOs #8: Maru #7: NesTea #6: Zest #5: soO #4: INnoVation #3: TaeJa #2: Life #1: Mvp | ||
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Yakikorosu
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I don't even think soO is in the top 20 of all time. | ||
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MattRz
Chile1681 Posts
Great article! Thanks. | ||
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