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Greatest Players of All Time: Part 1 - Page 11

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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
April 11 2015 21:53 GMT
#201
On April 12 2015 06:29 Psychonian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 03:36 Zealously wrote:
CAN YOU GUESS THE PLAYERS THAT WILL BE IN PART 2?

I'll buy you 3 months of TL+ if you guess right, 6 if you get the order right



TaeJa, MMA, NesTea, Stephano, Zest. in that order

edit: fuckit, I'm gonna go ahead and give my top 5.

InNoVation, PartinG, MC, Life, Mvp

i would be surprised if stephano make it

i think we are going to have a full list of korean tbh
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 11 2015 22:06 GMT
#202
Just realized Bomber isn't gonna make the top 15. Starting to heavily disagree with a few people who made it in. For example ST vs Prime bias aside I passionately believe that Bomber's sc2 career has been much more impressive than Marineking's
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 22:27:41
April 11 2015 22:15 GMT
#203
On April 12 2015 06:13 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
Making 4 GSL finals in a row is an amazing thing


Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
he's not shown the consistency


u wot m8


Read my post dude. He was an amazing player for a year and did nothing before then and very little after (except that most players who are amazing for a year win at least ONE tournament during that time). When we're talking best players of all time like Mvp, Life, Polt, TaeJa, PartinG, INnoVation, Maru, etc, they've been top players for year after year.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
April 11 2015 22:16 GMT
#204
I feel like this is going to be really biased
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 22:22:34
April 11 2015 22:19 GMT
#205
On April 12 2015 07:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I feel like this is going to be really biased

Of course there will be some. This isn't THE definitive top 15 list, it's Stuchiu's top 15. Obviously it is well researched and his criteria for ranking is quite good but at the end of the day there will always be bias and that's not such a bad thing. I think upon reading his reasoning many people will either change their minds about certain players or at least be forced to make an equally as informed and supported counter argument.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
April 11 2015 22:21 GMT
#206
why am I not on this list?
Zerg for Life
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
April 11 2015 22:22 GMT
#207
On April 12 2015 07:15 Yakikorosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 06:13 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On April 12 2015 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
Making 4 GSL finals in a row is an amazing thing


On April 12 2015 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
he's not shown the consistency


u wot m8


Read my post dude. He was an amazing player for a year and did nothing before then and very little after. When we're talking best players of all time like Mvp, Life, Polt, TaeJa, PartinG, INnoVation, Maru, etc, they've been top players for year after year.

And still soO achieved in one year what others will not in a lifetime, against ridiculous competition aswell. If he'd won all of these finals you wouldn't even begin to question him. Not to mention soO still has room to achieve more, unlike basically retired players like TaeJa and Mvp. There's definitely merit to putting him into the list.
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13021 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-12 10:54:19
April 11 2015 22:27 GMT
#208
Haha the memories watching #11.

10 : MMA
9 : Rain
8 : NesTea
7 : Polt
6 : Stephano
WriterMaru
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 11 2015 22:27 GMT
#209
^^ you are not serious...right?
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 22:31:42
April 11 2015 22:29 GMT
#210
On April 12 2015 07:19 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I feel like this is going to be really biased

Of course there will be some. This isn't THE definitive top 15 list, it's Stuchiu's top 15. Obviously it is well researched and his criteria for ranking is quite good but at the end of the day there will always be bias and that's not such a bad thing. I think upon reading his reasoning many people will either change their minds about certain players or at least be forced to make an equally as informed and supported counter argument.


Here's an interesting tidbit. I wrote an initial list with an eye test. But it changed drastically based on the research. I chased the data and the data formed my opinions, I didn't have an opinion and then forced the data to mold to my preconceived answers.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
April 11 2015 22:29 GMT
#211
On April 12 2015 07:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I feel like this is going to be really biased


You can easily follow stu's reasoning and question him right in this thread If you disagree - he will see it. What makes you feel it'll be unusually biased?
AdministratorBreak the chains
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18756 Posts
April 11 2015 22:30 GMT
#212
On April 12 2015 07:29 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:19 Yorkie wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I feel like this is going to be really biased

Of course there will be some. This isn't THE definitive top 15 list, it's Stuchiu's top 15. Obviously it is well researched and his criteria for ranking is quite good but at the end of the day there will always be bias and that's not such a bad thing. I think upon reading his reasoning many people will either change their minds about certain players or at least be forced to make an equally as informed and supported counter argument.


Here's an interesting tidbit. I wrote an initial list with an eye test. But it changed drastically based on the research.


Will you show us your initial list after the final part?
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 11 2015 22:30 GMT
#213
On April 12 2015 07:29 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:19 Yorkie wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I feel like this is going to be really biased

Of course there will be some. This isn't THE definitive top 15 list, it's Stuchiu's top 15. Obviously it is well researched and his criteria for ranking is quite good but at the end of the day there will always be bias and that's not such a bad thing. I think upon reading his reasoning many people will either change their minds about certain players or at least be forced to make an equally as informed and supported counter argument.


Here's an interesting tidbit. I wrote an initial list with an eye test. But it changed drastically based on the research.

Exact same thing happened to me. My top 20 changed dramatically after putting the time in and researching.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
KonanTenshi
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden210 Posts
April 11 2015 22:30 GMT
#214
Maybe a liquid'hero is supposed to fit in here?

10. MMA
9. Innovation
8. Polt
7. Rain
6. Parting
5. MC
4. Squirtle
3. Life
2. Nestea
1. Mvp
Curious
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 11 2015 22:31 GMT
#215
People are overrating the hell out of Stephano
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
April 11 2015 22:31 GMT
#216
On April 12 2015 07:22 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:15 Yakikorosu wrote:
On April 12 2015 06:13 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
On April 12 2015 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
Making 4 GSL finals in a row is an amazing thing


On April 12 2015 06:08 Yakikorosu wrote:
he's not shown the consistency


u wot m8


Read my post dude. He was an amazing player for a year and did nothing before then and very little after. When we're talking best players of all time like Mvp, Life, Polt, TaeJa, PartinG, INnoVation, Maru, etc, they've been top players for year after year.

And still soO achieved in one year what others will not in a lifetime, against ridiculous competition aswell. If he'd won all of these finals you wouldn't even begin to question him. Not to mention soO still has room to achieve more, unlike basically retired players like TaeJa and Mvp. There's definitely merit to putting him into the list.


But... he DIDN'T win. ANY of them. That's my whole point.

I'll stop posting about soO now but I just don't see how he's top 15 at all. I would put not only Leenock and DRG but a player like Soulkey, who apparently won't make the list at all, ahead of soO.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 11 2015 22:31 GMT
#217
On April 12 2015 07:30 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:29 stuchiu wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:19 Yorkie wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I feel like this is going to be really biased

Of course there will be some. This isn't THE definitive top 15 list, it's Stuchiu's top 15. Obviously it is well researched and his criteria for ranking is quite good but at the end of the day there will always be bias and that's not such a bad thing. I think upon reading his reasoning many people will either change their minds about certain players or at least be forced to make an equally as informed and supported counter argument.


Here's an interesting tidbit. I wrote an initial list with an eye test. But it changed drastically based on the research.


Will you show us your initial list after the final part?


yea
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 22:37:03
April 11 2015 22:32 GMT
#218
On April 12 2015 03:36 Zealously wrote:
CAN YOU GUESS THE PLAYERS THAT WILL BE IN PART 2?

I'll buy you 3 months of TL+ if you guess right, 6 if you get the order right

1. Mvp
2. Life
3. TaeJa
4. INnoVation
5. Zest
6. MC
7. Polt
8. MMA
9. Stephano
10. Nestea
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
April 11 2015 22:32 GMT
#219
On April 12 2015 07:31 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 07:30 sharkie wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:29 stuchiu wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:19 Yorkie wrote:
On April 12 2015 07:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I feel like this is going to be really biased

Of course there will be some. This isn't THE definitive top 15 list, it's Stuchiu's top 15. Obviously it is well researched and his criteria for ranking is quite good but at the end of the day there will always be bias and that's not such a bad thing. I think upon reading his reasoning many people will either change their minds about certain players or at least be forced to make an equally as informed and supported counter argument.


Here's an interesting tidbit. I wrote an initial list with an eye test. But it changed drastically based on the research.


Will you show us your initial list after the final part?


yea

so much hype, also sick DRG pun
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55594 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 22:57:12
April 11 2015 22:33 GMT
#220
On April 12 2015 07:32 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 03:36 Zealously wrote:
CAN YOU GUESS THE PLAYERS THAT WILL BE IN PART 2?

I'll buy you 3 months of TL+ if you guess right, 6 if you get the order right

1. Mvp
2. Life
3. TaeJa
4. INnoVation
5. MC
6. Polt
7. MMA
8. Stephano
9. Nestea

Didn't read the article, RIP your dreams of getting Zealously's TL+ money.
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