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Greatest Players of All Time: Part 1 - Page 7

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Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
April 11 2015 20:00 GMT
#121
On April 12 2015 04:56 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 04:55 Apoteosis wrote:
No FruitDealer ?

Come on !!!

fruitdealer won 1 tournament, and did nothing else. yes, it was the first big tournament win ever, but still he did nothing impressive afterwards.


The very first GSL was impressive in his own right.
And if you don't (or can't) remember, Zergs were underperforming back in the day. FD play at the very first GSL marked the concept of how Zerg should macro, even to this day. Expand, drone, expand, attack. Every Zerg play by that norm when they play macro.
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
April 11 2015 20:00 GMT
#122
On April 12 2015 04:50 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 04:48 Zealously wrote:
On April 12 2015 04:47 Darkhorse wrote:
On April 12 2015 04:21 nkr wrote:
1. Life
2. MVP
3. Nestea
4. IdrA
5. MC
6. MMA
7. HuK
8. sOs
9. Parting
10. Polt
11. Stephano
12. Innovation
13. Maru
14. Naniwa
15. Soulkey

what the hell?

You guys have some weird predictions D:


I don't think that's a prediction

That was just the weirdest one. All the others are still weird D:


You guys are weird.
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Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
April 11 2015 20:00 GMT
#123
i love how many people put sos in their top 10 when the article already established that sos is behind leenock on rank 16 by the smallest margin. soulkey is prolly rank 17. that or i overestimated one of my guys in the top 10.
Kluey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1197 Posts
April 11 2015 20:01 GMT
#124
Stephano deserves to be in there. His style was mimicked everywhere and abused to the max.
Ardias
Profile Joined January 2014
Russian Federation610 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 20:18:25
April 11 2015 20:04 GMT
#125
Why people keep mentioning sOs, if it's clear from Leenok's article, that he is not in the list?

Well, that's what I came up with:
10. Polt
9. Rain
8. Innovation
7. Nestea
6. Zest
5. MMA
4. MC
3. TaeJa
2. Mvp
1. Life

Decided Life/Mvp question with a coinflip =D

TL staff should make top15 best foreigners as well, I believe it'll cause even more drama.

After another coinflip decided to switch MMA and Nestea, cause their positions were the only ones(besides Life/Mvp) that I couldn't easily come up with.
Mess with the best or die like the rest.
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
April 11 2015 20:04 GMT
#126
On April 12 2015 05:00 Apoteosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 04:56 Tanzklaue wrote:
On April 12 2015 04:55 Apoteosis wrote:
No FruitDealer ?

Come on !!!

fruitdealer won 1 tournament, and did nothing else. yes, it was the first big tournament win ever, but still he did nothing impressive afterwards.


The very first GSL was impressive in his own right.
And if you don't (or can't) remember, Zergs were underperforming back in the day. FD play at the very first GSL marked the concept of how Zerg should macro, even to this day. Expand, drone, expand, attack. Every Zerg play by that norm when they play macro.

and again, he won 1 tournament, then did jackshit after that. he never had another deep run. by that logic we shpould put seed in there, who won GSL after no protoss had won it for years. also the seocnd winner was nestea, another zerg. i dunno, but purely based on tournament wins we might have overestimated imbalances. the next 2 winners of the tournament were terran and protoss. terran dominance only started after the infancy phase of sc2.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44368 Posts
April 11 2015 20:04 GMT
#127
On April 12 2015 05:01 Kluey wrote:
Stephano deserves to be in there. His style was mimicked everywhere and abused to the max.


I suppose the word "greatest" is rather subjective.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 20:08:27
April 11 2015 20:07 GMT
#128
Nestea deserves top 5 for sure. 3 GSL wins (1 of which he won without dropping a game), 1 top 4. 3 top 8s. 3rd place at IPL4. 2nd place blizzcon. Nestea award etc. Even though he always lost to MVP he was one of the only players that could actually take games off him during his prime. If it wasn't for Nestea MVP would have for sure won a GSL without losing a game. Most of his achievements were while zerg was underpowered.
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3390 Posts
April 11 2015 20:08 GMT
#129
How many have been brainwashed by Artosis O.o Nestea.. rly? even in some of ur top 5's...
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 11 2015 20:09 GMT
#130
People with Polt below 7th are silly
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 20:38:29
April 11 2015 20:10 GMT
#131
nice, can't wait to see the rest

my guess....

10 Parting Rain MarineKing (I actually feel like he should be lower but he wasn't in 15-11 so...)
9 NesTea
8 Zest
7 Polt
6 MC
5 Innovation
4 MMA
3 TaeJa
2 Mvp (gasp!)
1 Life

I also feel like Rain deserves a spot, too many good players
idk it's just a rough guess list
edit: just saw MarineKing is #11 lol
edit 2: Parting over Rain lol
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 20:10:53
April 11 2015 20:10 GMT
#132
On April 12 2015 05:09 Darkhorse wrote:
People with Polt below 7th are silly


On April 12 2015 05:10 Die4Ever wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

nice, can't wait to see the rest

my guess....

10 MarineKing (I actually feel like he should be lower but he wasn't in 15-11 so...)
9 NesTea
8 Zest
7 Polt
6 MC
5 Innovation
4 MMA
3 TaeJa
2 Mvp (gasp!)
1 Life

I also feel like Rain deserves a spot, too many good players
idk it's just a rough guess list


lol
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Ardias
Profile Joined January 2014
Russian Federation610 Posts
April 11 2015 20:11 GMT
#133
On April 12 2015 05:10 Die4Ever wrote:
10 MarineKing (I actually feel like he should be lower but he wasn't in 15-11 so...)

He is 11th in the article.
Mess with the best or die like the rest.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 20:13:49
April 11 2015 20:11 GMT
#134
like always nice writing stuchiu

1-mvp
2-life
100% sure

i don't know for the rest

edit : except the one that are already here ofc
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17676 Posts
April 11 2015 20:11 GMT
#135
On April 12 2015 05:11 Ardias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 05:10 Die4Ever wrote:
10 MarineKing (I actually feel like he should be lower but he wasn't in 15-11 so...)

He is 11th in the article.

oh crap I missed that one!
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
April 11 2015 20:12 GMT
#136
On April 12 2015 05:10 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 05:09 Darkhorse wrote:
People with Polt below 7th are silly


Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 05:10 Die4Ever wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

nice, can't wait to see the rest

my guess....

10 MarineKing (I actually feel like he should be lower but he wasn't in 15-11 so...)
9 NesTea
8 Zest
7 Polt
6 MC
5 Innovation
4 MMA
3 TaeJa
2 Mvp (gasp!)
1 Life

I also feel like Rain deserves a spot, too many good players
idk it's just a rough guess list


lol

Right in the sweet spot

But you're still silly for Inno above Polt. Or maybe even MMA
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Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
April 11 2015 20:13 GMT
#137
my favourite part was that marineking's article basically was "he sucks, he is dumb, wasted potential", then "he totes better than soo tho".

i kinda feel a discrepancy there. not that i disagree with the sentiment, but maybe he would've deserved to be palced lower.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
April 11 2015 20:14 GMT
#138
RIP the top 20 I was writing
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 11 2015 20:14 GMT
#139
I am dying of curiosity to know what are the 10 players that are greater of all times then Maru!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
April 11 2015 20:14 GMT
#140
On April 12 2015 05:13 Tanzklaue wrote:
my favourite part was that marineking's article basically was "he sucks, he is dumb, wasted potential", then "he totes better than soo tho".

i kinda feel a discrepancy there. not that i disagree with the sentiment, but maybe he would've deserved to be palced lower.


Just because he could have achieved far more doesn't deduct from the results he had
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
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