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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
April 12 2015 02:25 GMT
#321
#1 Mvp
#2 Life
#3 MC
#4 MMA
#5 Taeja
#6 Polt
#7 Nestea
#8 Parting
#9 Bomber
#10 HerO

Explanations:

Mvp over Life because stuchiu also because it's correct until Life wins another GSL.
MC 3rd as he's #1 in earnings and was the only Protoss with any success for over a year. (by playing dirty but still)
MMA/Polt/Taeja over Nestea because of longer careers. (also because of Nestea's bracket luck which won't be addressed in the article)
Polt vs Taeja is tricky because you have 7 premier wins for Polt and 11 for Taeja, $350k in earnings for Polt and $275k for Taeja, and you have Polt's Super Tournament win while Taeja doesn't have a Korean tournament win. Tough call so it's safe to go with Liquid bias. MMA is above both because of two Korean wins (GSL and Hot6) and he's still a top terran while Taeja has fallen off and Polt is in foreign-land.
Parting and Bomber make it because the article is being written by Startale fans.

Zealously mentioned that only 9 of the 12 players KalWarkov posted are in the top 10, so there's a "wild-card" which is likely to be Stephano, HerO, or Jaedong. Out of the three Stephano has the most winnings but HerO had the best overall career and also Liquid bias but not really since HerO really was better overall than Stephano even if Stephano wrecked him often with BL/Infestor.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 12 2015 02:41 GMT
#322
On April 12 2015 11:25 Cheren wrote:
#1 Mvp
#2 Life
#3 MC
#4 MMA
#5 Taeja
#6 Polt
#7 Nestea
#8 Parting
#9 Bomber
#10 HerO

Explanations:

Mvp over Life because stuchiu also because it's correct until Life wins another GSL.
MC 3rd as he's #1 in earnings and was the only Protoss with any success for over a year. (by playing dirty but still)
MMA/Polt/Taeja over Nestea because of longer careers. (also because of Nestea's bracket luck which won't be addressed in the article)
Polt vs Taeja is tricky because you have 7 premier wins for Polt and 11 for Taeja, $350k in earnings for Polt and $275k for Taeja, and you have Polt's Super Tournament win while Taeja doesn't have a Korean tournament win. Tough call so it's safe to go with Liquid bias. MMA is above both because of two Korean wins (GSL and Hot6) and he's still a top terran while Taeja has fallen off and Polt is in foreign-land.
Parting and Bomber make it because the article is being written by Startale fans.

Zealously mentioned that only 9 of the 12 players KalWarkov posted are in the top 10, so there's a "wild-card" which is likely to be Stephano, HerO, or Jaedong. Out of the three Stephano has the most winnings but HerO had the best overall career and also Liquid bias but not really since HerO really was better overall than Stephano even if Stephano wrecked him often with BL/Infestor.


I think your analysis is great but you're literally the only one in this entire thread to mention jaedong, lol.
Grotfange
Profile Joined February 2012
France7 Posts
April 12 2015 02:43 GMT
#323
i would say
1- Taeja
2 - Mvp
3 - Life
4 - MC
5 - MMA

6 - Polt
7 - Zest
8 - innovation
9 - Nestea
10 - stephano?

it's so hard to tell :/
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
April 12 2015 02:44 GMT
#324
top 10 foreigner list

1. Stephano
2. HuK
3. Naniwa
4. Scarlett
5. Snute
6. Thorzain
7. Suppjwa
8. MaNa
9. Lucifron
10. TLO
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
April 12 2015 02:45 GMT
#325
On April 12 2015 11:41 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 11:25 Cheren wrote:
#1 Mvp
#2 Life
#3 MC
#4 MMA
#5 Taeja
#6 Polt
#7 Nestea
#8 Parting
#9 Bomber
#10 HerO

Explanations:

Mvp over Life because stuchiu also because it's correct until Life wins another GSL.
MC 3rd as he's #1 in earnings and was the only Protoss with any success for over a year. (by playing dirty but still)
MMA/Polt/Taeja over Nestea because of longer careers. (also because of Nestea's bracket luck which won't be addressed in the article)
Polt vs Taeja is tricky because you have 7 premier wins for Polt and 11 for Taeja, $350k in earnings for Polt and $275k for Taeja, and you have Polt's Super Tournament win while Taeja doesn't have a Korean tournament win. Tough call so it's safe to go with Liquid bias. MMA is above both because of two Korean wins (GSL and Hot6) and he's still a top terran while Taeja has fallen off and Polt is in foreign-land.
Parting and Bomber make it because the article is being written by Startale fans.

Zealously mentioned that only 9 of the 12 players KalWarkov posted are in the top 10, so there's a "wild-card" which is likely to be Stephano, HerO, or Jaedong. Out of the three Stephano has the most winnings but HerO had the best overall career and also Liquid bias but not really since HerO really was better overall than Stephano even if Stephano wrecked him often with BL/Infestor.


I think your analysis is great but you're literally the only one in this entire thread to mention jaedong, lol.

stuch will lose all my respect for him if Jaedong is on the list
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 12 2015 02:46 GMT
#326
On April 12 2015 11:13 lichter wrote:
a foreigner on the list? lololol


I know It's controversial and knowing stuch stephano probably isn't on it. I see him as one of the all time greats, but then again if leenock and DRG are below 10th stephano probably isn't there.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 12 2015 02:47 GMT
#327
On April 12 2015 11:45 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 11:41 Dodgin wrote:
On April 12 2015 11:25 Cheren wrote:
#1 Mvp
#2 Life
#3 MC
#4 MMA
#5 Taeja
#6 Polt
#7 Nestea
#8 Parting
#9 Bomber
#10 HerO

Explanations:

Mvp over Life because stuchiu also because it's correct until Life wins another GSL.
MC 3rd as he's #1 in earnings and was the only Protoss with any success for over a year. (by playing dirty but still)
MMA/Polt/Taeja over Nestea because of longer careers. (also because of Nestea's bracket luck which won't be addressed in the article)
Polt vs Taeja is tricky because you have 7 premier wins for Polt and 11 for Taeja, $350k in earnings for Polt and $275k for Taeja, and you have Polt's Super Tournament win while Taeja doesn't have a Korean tournament win. Tough call so it's safe to go with Liquid bias. MMA is above both because of two Korean wins (GSL and Hot6) and he's still a top terran while Taeja has fallen off and Polt is in foreign-land.
Parting and Bomber make it because the article is being written by Startale fans.

Zealously mentioned that only 9 of the 12 players KalWarkov posted are in the top 10, so there's a "wild-card" which is likely to be Stephano, HerO, or Jaedong. Out of the three Stephano has the most winnings but HerO had the best overall career and also Liquid bias but not really since HerO really was better overall than Stephano even if Stephano wrecked him often with BL/Infestor.


I think your analysis is great but you're literally the only one in this entire thread to mention jaedong, lol.

stuch will lose all my respect for him if Jaedong is on the list


He's #1 on my Has' Top 5 games played of all time.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 12 2015 02:48 GMT
#328
On April 12 2015 11:44 Cricketer12 wrote:
top 10 foreigner list

1. Stephano
2. HuK
3. Naniwa
4. Scarlett
5. Snute
6. Thorzain
7. Suppjwa
8. MaNa
9. Lucifron
10. TLO

I'm a huge Scarlett fan and Canadian fanboy, but even I think there's no way you can put Scarlett ahead of Snute or Naniwa behind Huk.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 12 2015 02:48 GMT
#329
On April 12 2015 11:44 Cricketer12 wrote:
top 10 foreigner list

1. Stephano
2. HuK
3. Naniwa
4. Scarlett
5. Snute
6. Thorzain
7. Suppjwa
8. MaNa
9. Lucifron
10. TLO

You scored 2/10, thanks for playing
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Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
April 12 2015 02:49 GMT
#330
Mvp and Life are the clear top 2, no one seems to be contesting that. I think Mvp is first, but it sure is getting close. I think Taeja, MMA, and MC are the clear next tier. It baffles me that a lot of people are putting MMA in the 7-10 range, especially with the reasoning that his relevancy is due to beating on foreigners, which is preposterous when you look at the recent Blizzcon and GSL. I personally think MC is a step below Taeja and MMA, but those two are pretty hard to rate. My heart says MMA, and my brain can't really decide.

The rest are pretty hard for me to decide. Polt, Parting, and Zest are in there for sure I think. Otherwise, Nestea? It's personally hard for me to compare him to others, because the three GSL wins are just so insane, but he has no results otherwise. Bomber? Hero? Innovation (less sold on him)?

Excited to read the rest, I hope there's also a section mentioning the other top candidates that didn't make the top 15!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 12 2015 02:50 GMT
#331
I'll change my list to this:

#1 Mvp
#2 Life
#3 MC
#4 MMA
#5 Taeja
#6 Polt
#7 Bomber
#8 Nestea
#9 Parting
#10 Innovation

honestly I'm not sure which player should be 9th and which should be 10th, if I'm somehow wrong about one of the picks I'm going to guess that Zest or TLHero is in there instead.
rines
Profile Joined April 2015
2 Posts
April 12 2015 02:54 GMT
#332
this thread will be bullshit if MVP isnt number 1.
ZaMa
Profile Joined August 2013
United States38 Posts
April 12 2015 02:56 GMT
#333
1 MVP
2 Life
3 MC
4 MMA
5 Jaedong
6 Taeja
7 Bomber
8 Innovation
9 Parting
10 Flashu
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
April 12 2015 03:01 GMT
#334
On April 12 2015 11:47 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 11:45 Cricketer12 wrote:
On April 12 2015 11:41 Dodgin wrote:
On April 12 2015 11:25 Cheren wrote:
#1 Mvp
#2 Life
#3 MC
#4 MMA
#5 Taeja
#6 Polt
#7 Nestea
#8 Parting
#9 Bomber
#10 HerO

Explanations:

Mvp over Life because stuchiu also because it's correct until Life wins another GSL.
MC 3rd as he's #1 in earnings and was the only Protoss with any success for over a year. (by playing dirty but still)
MMA/Polt/Taeja over Nestea because of longer careers. (also because of Nestea's bracket luck which won't be addressed in the article)
Polt vs Taeja is tricky because you have 7 premier wins for Polt and 11 for Taeja, $350k in earnings for Polt and $275k for Taeja, and you have Polt's Super Tournament win while Taeja doesn't have a Korean tournament win. Tough call so it's safe to go with Liquid bias. MMA is above both because of two Korean wins (GSL and Hot6) and he's still a top terran while Taeja has fallen off and Polt is in foreign-land.
Parting and Bomber make it because the article is being written by Startale fans.

Zealously mentioned that only 9 of the 12 players KalWarkov posted are in the top 10, so there's a "wild-card" which is likely to be Stephano, HerO, or Jaedong. Out of the three Stephano has the most winnings but HerO had the best overall career and also Liquid bias but not really since HerO really was better overall than Stephano even if Stephano wrecked him often with BL/Infestor.


I think your analysis is great but you're literally the only one in this entire thread to mention jaedong, lol.

stuch will lose all my respect for him if Jaedong is on the list


He's #1 on my Has' Top 5 games played of all time.

thats completely different, in that he was getting wrekt by has, which was incredibly amusing....when I made that comment I was specifically referring to this (GOAT) list
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
April 12 2015 03:02 GMT
#335
On April 12 2015 11:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 11:44 Cricketer12 wrote:
top 10 foreigner list

1. Stephano
2. HuK
3. Naniwa
4. Scarlett
5. Snute
6. Thorzain
7. Suppjwa
8. MaNa
9. Lucifron
10. TLO

I'm a huge Scarlett fan and Canadian fanboy, but even I think there's no way you can put Scarlett ahead of Snute or Naniwa behind Huk.

I will say this, 4 gate vs moon

and mutalisks

that is all
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Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
April 12 2015 03:22 GMT
#336
I find hard to believe that sOs is not one of the best 15 SC2 players.
Roadog
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1670 Posts
April 12 2015 03:34 GMT
#337
On April 12 2015 12:22 Tiaraju9 wrote:
I find hard to believe that sOs is not one of the best 15 SC2 players.

He has a very high prize money won/premier tournaments won and sustained success ratio, I will say that. It's that lack of sustained success/dominance compared to most of the rest the list that keeps him off, I think.
sOs fan. Zerg just seem to have the most...potential. Dubbo Robo Colo! Why I play Protoss: Stalkers, bacon, toilets and mama -- Chelsea FC
ANGELIAS1234
Profile Joined September 2011
United States46 Posts
April 12 2015 03:47 GMT
#338
i miss the good ol days of Sc BW and Sc2 i miss the old players. BoxeR sAviOr Yellow i could go on but it will just make me sadder T.T
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
April 12 2015 03:47 GMT
#339
Well this will be a walk through memory lane.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
April 12 2015 03:52 GMT
#340
On April 12 2015 12:22 Tiaraju9 wrote:
I find hard to believe that sOs is not one of the best 15 SC2 players.


How about best 16?
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