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On April 12 2015 09:57 SkrollK wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 09:40 cheekymonkey wrote:
I don't think Rain will be on that list. Totally agree with no Rain in this. In what world you go with Rain and not Soulkey ? Soulkey just stomped nearly half a year of ZvT, just when he rollbacked INnoVation in his GSL final. BTW we can't seriously exclude Polt of this top 15, in no world. Stephano shouldn't be there IMO, even tho he marked the history of SCII, he just didn't made it in term of PURE results. $O$, just read the post  So, for me : #1. MVP (just obvious IMO) #2. Life (hesitating with MC tho) #3. MC #4. Nestea #5. INnoVation (just him or MMA, dunno the order, I just prefer Bogus there  ) #6. MMA #7. PartinG #8. Polt #9. Bomber #10. Taeja My guess. EDIT : BTW, IDC why people are putting Zest in top ten ? Maru is not even top ten, in which fuck*ng world Zest would be ranked higher ?
well; soO is in top 15 and for most of 2014 he was viewed as the 2nd best player in the world behind zest.
it would be strange if soO would be top15 but zest doesn't.
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On April 12 2015 04:31 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 04:30 KalWarkov wrote:
i have a problem. i have 12 players left for 10 spots :O
Zest
Nestea
Innovation
sOs
Bomber
Taeja
Polt
Parting
MMA
MC
Life
MVP Hint: three of those aren't in the Top 10
i would understand sOs somewhat, but everyone else? idk
since u said 3, i have to dismiss 3 and put 1 other in - so i guess stephano?
dismissing bomber and Zest as well, since they seem to be the most likely
i'll go with
10 Stephano
9 Polt
8 Nestea
7 Innovation
6 MMA
5 PartinG
4 Taeja
3 MC
2 Life
1 MVP
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FruitDealer needs to make the list.
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What exactly does "great series" mean? Great series overall or just great play from the player in question?
Because i heavily disagree with Maru vs Stats in the NSSL semi final being listed as a great series.
It wasnt bad, good games, but really great were only the game on KSS and maybe the one on foxtrot.
first games was not that great and stats just rolled over and died in the rest.
i am pretty sure that Maru played better series. e.g. the one vs hero in the last gsl.
also, was the innovation - curious game on frost in the iem online qualifier before or after the drg - innovation series?
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On April 12 2015 10:49 Ordained wrote:
FruitDealer needs to make the list.
for winning 1 GSL and disappearing right after?
jjakji and Sniper need to make the list as well!
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Top 2 will be:
1. Life
2. Mvp
Life trumps Mvp in terms of on form skill and achievements. It's not even close.
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I hope to god there's a Bomber somewhere in this.
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 12 2015 10:51 Paljas wrote:
What exactly does "great series" mean? Great series overall or just great play from the player in question.
Because i heavily disagree with Maru vs Stats in the NSSL semi final being listed as a great series.
It wasnt bad, good games, but really great were only the game on KSS and maybe the one on foxtrot.
first games was not that great and stats just rolled over and died in the rest.
i am pretty sure that Maru played better series. e.g. the one vs hero in the last gsl.
also, was the innovation - curious game on frost in the iem online qualifier before or after the drg - innovation series?
I think Inno-Curious was after. It might have been before though.
As for Great series, it basically meant I thought there was something special about at least 1 game in the series that reflects on how the player looks at and plays the game. That gives you a really strong expression of who the player is and how they approach the game. (In that case it was the KSS game).
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On April 12 2015 09:59 Roadog wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 09:58 kaykoose wrote:
Seems weird that Bomber is missing from so many of these lists. He's objectively better than Marineking who is 11th here. I don't know... results and longevitity aren't getting ranked as highly as they should. I can't think of any reason why I'd rank someone like Inno over Polt all-time, but I'm seeing that on a ton of lists. Good discussion though. Uh-oh, I don't think you want to open that can of worms :X
Lol. I mean just going off results/longevity, it's a clear advantage for Bomber. I guess I don't get the allure of Marineking.
Anyway, my list....
10. Innovation - Could maybe put Parting here. I'm fine either way. Both are super good. Just haven't won enough to warrant them being any higher.
9. Zest - His 2014 was that good. I believe he is tied for 3rd in premier wins for a protoss.. and it took him just a year and some change to do it.
8. Bomber - Probably the best terran in 2014. 4-0'd Cure at Red Bull. Ridiculous longevity/6 premiers
7. Nestea - Best zerg of Wings. 2nd best Wings player? Lack of longevity hurts him since he didn't win as much as Mvp.
6. Polt - Only terran to go blow for blow vs protoss imbalance in early 2014. Ridiculous longevity/7 premiers, 3-time WCS Champion
5. MC - Bosstoss. Relevant since the beginning/6 premiers
4. MMA - Arguably the 2nd best terran of all time. Ridiculous longevity/8 premiers. Beat prime Mvp 4-1. Hell, I might put him 3rd
3. Taeja - King of HotS? Or, he was until Life turned up last year
2. Life - Last GSL win sealed it. Could be the GOAT soon
1. Mvp - King of Wings
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10 Rain
9 MMA
8 Innovation
7 Polt
6 Parting
5 Taeja
4 Nestea
3 Life
2 MC
1 MVP
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Whoops. I missed HerO. So Zest is tied for 3rd. Jeez. HerO won so much and isn't getting any love on these lists. This is hard as fuck lol
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On April 12 2015 09:47 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 09:42 Yorkie wrote:
@Ziggaraut sOs Bomber Innovation not in top ten maybe? I agree it's tough to pick a tenth player then. HerO/Soulkey are potential stand ins but I wouldn't agree with them if that was the case Possibly. I'd be inclined to get rid of Nestea or PartinG over him though. But yeah I can't think of anyone at all more deserving than whoever gets kicked either way.
That's very weird. Can't think of anyone who doesn't deserve to be top16.
if I had to pick one of the list I would say INno although i can't think of anyone who could replace him.
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#1 Mvp
#2 Life
#3 MC
#4 MMA
#5 Taeja
#6 Polt
#7 Nestea
#8 Stephano
#9 Parting
#10 Bomber
random guess D:
If Inno makes the list it will probably be in place of stephano, that's a controversial pick for sure
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United States97277 Posts
Is Flash going to be in the top 10 maybe?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
a foreigner on the list? lololol
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United States97277 Posts
On April 12 2015 11:13 lichter wrote:
a foreigner on the list? lololol
Stephano is top 10 all time in earnings and likely could have competed for multiple code S titles in his prime
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your Country52798 Posts
On April 12 2015 11:13 lichter wrote:
a foreigner on the list? lololol
Shhh, we're supposed to give them hope 
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On April 12 2015 11:13 lichter wrote:
a foreigner on the list? lololol
We should give them their own list, since we give foreigners their own everything these days. WCS Charity league, free invites to S2SL that they always squander, free fans just for being white, etc.. as TB says it's easy being a foreigner and they need special treatment.
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On April 12 2015 11:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:We should give them their own list, since we give foreigners their own everything these days. WCS Charity league, free invites to S2SL that they always squander, free fans just for being white, etc.. as TB says it's easy being a foreigner and they need special treatment.
Get to it stuchiu
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On April 12 2015 11:17 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:We should give them their own list, since we give foreigners their own everything these days. WCS Charity league, free invites to S2SL that they always squander, free fans just for being white, etc.. as TB says it's easy being a foreigner and they need special treatment.
lol
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