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IM head coach Hirai: Mvp is NOT Retired

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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8247 Posts
April 09 2015 02:53 GMT
#1
http://pgr21.com/pb/pb.php?id=gamenews&no=9566#88037

Reddit Link

Would be great if someone knows where Coach Kang posted and can translate what it says. Reddit user dokdo812 gave a rough translation:

Rough translation: Hello. This is Kang Dong Hoon from IM. While it is true that Mvp is considering his future paths, it is not true that he retired. I'm still talking a lot with Mvp. We're pleased to see this much support from a lot of people still. We ask you to continue your interest and support. (Mvp is laughing that he got "force-retired"~ haha)
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ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
April 09 2015 02:54 GMT
#2
G5L
“The only man who never makes mistakes is the man who never does anything.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
Lucrania
Profile Joined December 2012
United States44 Posts
April 09 2015 02:55 GMT
#3
Can't wait for Mvp to win his fifth GSL.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 09 2015 02:55 GMT
#4
On April 09 2015 11:54 ElMeanYo wrote:
G5L


The dream still lives.

==

Also it'd be great if the coach could elaborate on wtf ever happened to IM -. -
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
April 09 2015 03:02 GMT
#5
As much as I love the fact that Mvp is not retired, if he is not playing professional SCII, then how the hell is he making money, does he have another job? (It's obvious that the amount of money he made in 2014 is not enough to keep him fed all the way till now
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
April 09 2015 03:30 GMT
#6
On April 09 2015 12:02 MiniFotToss wrote:
As much as I love the fact that Mvp is not retired, if he is not playing professional SCII, then how the hell is he making money, does he have another job? (It's obvious that the amount of money he made in 2014 is not enough to keep him fed all the way till now

He made enough to be middle class for like ten years, what are you talking about.
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South
Profile Joined November 2010
80 Posts
April 09 2015 03:36 GMT
#7
On April 09 2015 12:30 Fyodor wrote:
He made enough to be middle class for like ten years, what are you talking about.


According to liquipedia, he made about $350K gross. That's a pretty crappy middle class for 10 years, especially given that 3+ of those years are already gone.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46065 Posts
April 09 2015 03:38 GMT
#8
On April 09 2015 12:36 South wrote:
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On April 09 2015 12:30 Fyodor wrote:
He made enough to be middle class for like ten years, what are you talking about.


According to liquipedia, he made about $350K gross. That's a pretty crappy middle class for 10 years, especially given that 3+ of those years are already gone.


How is $35K per year "pretty crappy" when he doesn't need to support a family?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
April 09 2015 03:39 GMT
#9
The G5L is a go, boys
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
April 09 2015 03:47 GMT
#10
Watch Mvp enter the scene with a nice big tan. He's probably relaxing in beaches while his wrist heals
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 09 2015 03:54 GMT
#11
I bet he doesn't come back. He shouldn't if it really causes him a lot of pain. If he's feeling better or had surgery done to help him and really wants to play then I welcome him back.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8247 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-09 04:07:00
April 09 2015 04:05 GMT
#12
On April 09 2015 12:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
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On April 09 2015 12:36 South wrote:
On April 09 2015 12:30 Fyodor wrote:
He made enough to be middle class for like ten years, what are you talking about.


According to liquipedia, he made about $350K gross. That's a pretty crappy middle class for 10 years, especially given that 3+ of those years are already gone.


How is $35K per year "pretty crappy" when he doesn't need to support a family?

It isn't. With $350k, if he invests it properly and use it appropriately it should last him a lot of time once he steps out of the SC2 world and into the real world. However didn't he say he was using his prize money to help his family out because his family was very poor? I recall reading something about this a long time ago.

On April 09 2015 12:54 Shellshock wrote:
I bet he doesn't come back. He shouldn't if it really causes him a lot of pain. If he's feeling better or had surgery done to help him and really wants to play then I welcome him back.

I just want him to stream occasionally like he did on Azubu. Get a webcam, interact with fans online, stream an hour or two each day and you got yourself some extra income as well as fun with fans.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37095 Posts
April 09 2015 04:06 GMT
#13
Lol. I knew it. It's not an official retirement until multiple news sites produce an article announcing his retirement.
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2657 Posts
April 09 2015 04:11 GMT
#14
On April 09 2015 12:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2015 12:36 South wrote:
On April 09 2015 12:30 Fyodor wrote:
He made enough to be middle class for like ten years, what are you talking about.


According to liquipedia, he made about $350K gross. That's a pretty crappy middle class for 10 years, especially given that 3+ of those years are already gone.


How is $35K per year "pretty crappy" when he doesn't need to support a family?


Except he supports his family, also he is married. And I'm not sure if liquipedia counts his salary too.
omisa
Profile Joined January 2011
United States494 Posts
April 09 2015 04:14 GMT
#15
G5L. The dream is real.
\m/
yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
April 09 2015 04:42 GMT
#16
G5L - the King of Wings is coming back..

Least that's the hype I'd like to see if he returns for LotV.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12738 Posts
April 09 2015 05:14 GMT
#17
omg my heart is revived!
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-09 05:29:52
April 09 2015 05:28 GMT
#18
Hooray!!!! The King! I don't even care if he will be as good as he was or not. I just want to see him occasionally bring some innovative strategies like he did in the past.
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
April 09 2015 05:29 GMT
#19
On April 09 2015 12:36 South wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2015 12:30 Fyodor wrote:
He made enough to be middle class for like ten years, what are you talking about.


According to liquipedia, he made about $350K gross. That's a pretty crappy middle class for 10 years, especially given that 3+ of those years are already gone.


According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development the median salary in South Korea in 2012 was $36 thousand US a year.

So yes, he would be a middle Korean with $350k winnings, except he would have the advantage of having it front loaded.
AKAvg
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil298 Posts
April 09 2015 06:17 GMT
#20
Funny that he doesn't come out and say something about it
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