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[WCS] Premier Ro32 Group C Preview - S1 2015 - Page 2

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z0rz
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States350 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-19 14:55:44
February 19 2015 14:54 GMT
#21
On February 19 2015 22:39 Megafather wrote:
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On February 19 2015 22:16 z0rz wrote:
On February 19 2015 22:07 Megafather wrote:
On February 19 2015 22:00 Ketch wrote:
What's Violets form nowadays? Normally he should be pegged as a favorite right?
Though the three foreigners in this group are all capable of beating him as well...

Exciting!

He isn't in the best of forms. You're right if you say he is arguably the best player in the group, but not by much, and these 2 terrans know what they're doing vs zerg, so bad luck draw for violet i guess.

I know groups of death are exciting and that's why people including me like them, but i feel bad for the players. The 2 that don't advance would easily advance if they were in a normal "not group of death" group.

Meh, the only shame is that they could lose out on WCS points and money by playing in such a stacked group. But if your goal is to win the entire tournament (as it should be), then it's not such a bad thing. You'll have to beat these players eventually.


The only results that matters is being number one then?
I think the players want results, and the other results (Top 8, Top 4 etc) matter too.

A good example was the code A season 1 group of death last year where Innovation didn't make it to code S, losing to Zest and herO. Sorry Innovation, because you lost to the champion, even at this early stage, you wouldn't win this season anyhow, might as well stay in code A then.

Of course it's not the only result that matters. But it's the only result you should have your eyes on (if you care about what you do, at least). Most players won't get there, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try.

Sure, it sucks to see someone like INnoVation lose so early, but do you think he got to where he is by taking the easy road? Win or lose, he gained valuable experience by playing against the best of the best in televised matches.

He didn't get the most prize money possible but to say that's all he got out of it is bogus. (Kappa)

On February 19 2015 22:46 The_Templar wrote:
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On February 19 2015 22:16 z0rz wrote:
On February 19 2015 22:07 Megafather wrote:
On February 19 2015 22:00 Ketch wrote:
What's Violets form nowadays? Normally he should be pegged as a favorite right?
Though the three foreigners in this group are all capable of beating him as well...

Exciting!

He isn't in the best of forms. You're right if you say he is arguably the best player in the group, but not by much, and these 2 terrans know what they're doing vs zerg, so bad luck draw for violet i guess.

I know groups of death are exciting and that's why people including me like them, but i feel bad for the players. The 2 that don't advance would easily advance if they were in a normal "not group of death" group.

Meh, the only shame is that they could lose out on WCS points and money by playing in such a stacked group. But if your goal is to win the entire tournament (as it should be), then it's not such a bad thing. You'll have to beat these players eventually.

WCS points and money are pretty important too. Finishing in the RO8 also looks a lot better than finishing in the RO32 (and you must admit at least 3 of these players were favorites to make the RO8).


This isn't the last WCS tournament. This isn't the only tournament with prize money. There will be more.

Should the goal be "make as much money as possible *right now* in this one tournament," or should it be "I want to be as good as I can possibly be"?

There's no right or wrong answer, but I think there's a lot more money (not to mention respect) to be gained by choosing the latter.
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mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-19 15:29:04
February 19 2015 15:28 GMT
#22
Easy 4-0 for Bunny.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 19 2015 15:35 GMT
#23
On February 19 2015 23:30 The_Templar wrote:
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On February 19 2015 22:58 Cricketer12 wrote:
surprised temp didnt write this, he and i have the EXACT same results for this group

Why are you surprised I didn't write this? O.o

It was poorly written, so it seemed like something you'd write :p
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Valefort
Profile Joined December 2010
France228 Posts
February 19 2015 15:46 GMT
#24
Go Mana ! Make everyone regret not believing in you :D
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
February 19 2015 16:20 GMT
#25
Should be a great group to watch!
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
SlammerIV
Profile Joined December 2013
United States526 Posts
February 19 2015 16:30 GMT
#26
Man I am so excited for this group!! Every single match is going to be crazy good.
I do expect Bunny and MajOr to go through, but really it is so hard to predict, viOLet has beaten MajOr in the past though I do not expect him to take down Bunny. The way the matches Start is very interesting and may actually give viOLet a great shot at advancing if he beats MajOr in the winners match.

(T)MajOr > (T)Bunny
(Z)viOLet > (P)MaNa
MaiOr > (Z)viOLet
(T)Bunny > (P)MaNa
(T)Bunny > (Z)viOLet
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 19 2015 16:33 GMT
#27
This should be a good group
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Ben1500
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom180 Posts
February 19 2015 16:49 GMT
#28
Why are people rating violet so highly? I can't remember the last time he looked like a title contender.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
February 19 2015 16:54 GMT
#29
On February 20 2015 01:49 Ben1500 wrote:
Why are people rating violet so highly? I can't remember the last time he looked like a title contender.


There's "title contender" and "able to beat 3 foreigners"
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Ben1500
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom180 Posts
February 19 2015 16:59 GMT
#30
On February 20 2015 01:54 Larkin wrote:
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On February 20 2015 01:49 Ben1500 wrote:
Why are people rating violet so highly? I can't remember the last time he looked like a title contender.


There's "title contender" and "able to beat 3 foreigners"

I actually think he's the second weakest player in the group.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
February 19 2015 17:24 GMT
#31
ew Apollo's mic having issues
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
February 19 2015 17:32 GMT
#32
so glad this doesn't have censorship on

TvT is way more fun when you see marines flying around and blood everywhere
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
February 19 2015 18:17 GMT
#33
I'm the only one in this thread this is so sad ;;

Major played much better yet Bunny wins, huh
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Megafather
Profile Joined February 2015
138 Posts
February 19 2015 18:21 GMT
#34
I'm here too ^^

Major had better mechanics and execution but Bunny had better decision making and choosing right gambles.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 19 2015 18:24 GMT
#35
Bzzt, bees are flying by again
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Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
February 19 2015 18:30 GMT
#36
On February 19 2015 22:25 DinosaurPoop wrote:
MajOr 4-0's this group.
Not even close.


Ohh ok.
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Valefort
Profile Joined December 2010
France228 Posts
February 19 2015 19:00 GMT
#37
That agression by Mana o_o Gogo one more !
Valefort
Profile Joined December 2010
France228 Posts
February 19 2015 19:06 GMT
#38
Violet was pretty undecisive on game one, I expect full agression from him on game two.. not going to be easy.
Valefort
Profile Joined December 2010
France228 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-19 19:16:25
February 19 2015 19:15 GMT
#39
Ahaha Mana having real trouble not smiling too much :D

That was fast and not very dramatic that said, is Violet going to be 0-4 ? His play seems off so far.

(also crickets are chirping .. am I alone ?)
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 19 2015 19:24 GMT
#40
Why is this devolving into a LR thread? O_o
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