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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On January 27 2015 00:20 Circumstance wrote: Let's be clear. For the sake of *logistics*, some would rather blatantly rig the groups to guarantee one region six spots in the Top 16 instead of spreading everyone out to give every region a fair shot for their players to advance? Indeed, language is a powerful weapon. There is no objectively "fair" way to do this, so you can always find a way to formulate your opinion so that it sounds terribly biased for someone. That however doesn't make it true. Let's way how many players will drop out because of this "logistics" and then we can discuss how fair it is. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 27 2015 00:20 Circumstance wrote: Let's be clear. For the sake of *logistics*, some would rather blatantly rig the groups to guarantee one region six spots in the Top 16 instead of spreading everyone out to give every region a fair shot for their players to advance? Yeah I don't get it at all, especially since this was known for a long time. Having artificial groups so players don't have to fly, wtf. Most people aren't even considering that many players love being a progamer because they get to travel. Not every european will hate it that he gets to visit America. If teams had to pay themselves I could understand it, but that's obviously not the case. There is only one way this can be done, and that's the way it is being done. Being a progamer means you have to be able to fly around the world and still perform, it's part of the job. Rigging the groups so players don't have to fly as far... still feel like people are trolling. On January 27 2015 00:25 opisska wrote: Let's way how many players will drop out because of this "logistics" and then we can discuss how fair it is. Not a single person will drop out because of this, if someone does it's a joke and extremely unprofessional. The only acceptable reason is a vissa issue, but I'm sure Blizzard is working hard to ensure everybody can come, especially the Chinese players. | ||
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fLyiNgDroNe
Belgium4015 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On January 27 2015 00:48 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: wow Happy is doomed. Polt and ForGG can only lose in tvt to each other. While I'm not particularly confident in Happy vs ForGG he definitely could take out Polt | ||
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
On January 27 2015 00:31 Musicus wrote: Not a single person will drop out because of this, if someone does it's a joke and extremely unprofessional. The only acceptable reason is a vissa issue, but I'm sure Blizzard is working hard to ensure everybody can come, especially the Chinese players. I dont know, i've heard plenty about visa issues before. | ||
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D-light
Finland7364 Posts
On January 27 2015 00:04 Teapea wrote: All I can say is that I feel for Serral, 16 yo guy gets to premier first time, get the group of death. Actually he was in the previous season, but got 2-0'd by MC and Happy. But has improved from that time and also doubt he will be as nervous as his first time. Still a very difficult group even though he only needs to really work on his zvt, which I find rather great as long as he remembers not to a-move with his whole army when it comes to drops. | ||
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Aridhol
Germany59 Posts
Group 2: Forgg Polt Group 3: Xigua Bunny Group 4: Showtime Has/Huk Group 5: Naniwa Jim Group 6: Hydra Sen Group 7: Macsed TLO Group 8: Snute iAsonu | ||
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Aeromi
France14460 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On January 27 2015 01:41 Aeromi wrote: Some players like PiG or TargA already know where they are playing while some players still not know if they are going to play in Germany or USA. I just don't get why this has not been decided yet. cause this season has been kind of a wreck so far. they're doing everything at the last minute. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
ForGG will advance for sure, after that, i'm acutally not sure. Polt sounds lotical, but Happy has sick TvT... And Serral has to practise 1 matchup. Overall, I don't really like the groups. seem quite imbalanced skill and race wise. | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
 MajOr,  TargAGroup 2: ForGG, HappyGroup 3: Bunny, uThermalGroup 4:  HuK, ShoWTimEGroup 5: NaNiwa, JimGroup 6: Hydra, WelmuGroup 7: viOLet, TLOGroup 8: Snute, Kane | ||
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rotta
5589 Posts
B: Polt/Serral C: Bunny/Xigua D: Huk/Has E: Naniwa/Jim (if soundproofing is ok) F: Hydra/Welmu G: Violet/Morrow H: Snute/Kane | ||
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
On January 27 2015 01:41 Aeromi wrote: Some players like PiG or TargA already know where they are playing while some players still not know if they are going to play in Germany or USA. I just don't get why this has not been decided yet. So it's sure now that the groups will stand and there will be no redraw? If that is the case it is a shameful act of arbitrariness. I wonder why there is no drama around the totally botched group selection, when there is always drama around meaningless things... | ||
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
the group of the death in this situation is group 5, imo. even tho there's a up-and-coming player in there, u have to look at the competitiveness in that group among all the other groups. the likes of naniwa, jim, and suppy are all forces to be reckon with. | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On January 27 2015 00:31 Musicus wrote: Yeah I don't get it at all, especially since this was known for a long time. Having artificial groups so players don't have to fly, wtf. Most people aren't even considering that many players love being a progamer because they get to travel. Not every european will hate it that he gets to visit America. If teams had to pay themselves I could understand it, but that's obviously not the case. There is only one way this can be done, and that's the way it is being done. Being a progamer means you have to be able to fly around the world and still perform, it's part of the job. Rigging the groups so players don't have to fly as far... still feel like people are trolling. Not a single person will drop out because of this, if someone does it's a joke and extremely unprofessional. The only acceptable reason is a vissa issue, but I'm sure Blizzard is working hard to ensure everybody can come, especially the Chinese players. The only acceptable reason is visa issue? Assuming the groups are being played on weekdays, what about a part-time player having to study, who will potentialy miss several days if he doesn't want to be affected by jetlag? (I don't know if this is a real issue or not, but it seems to me it might be) | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 27 2015 02:22 OtherWorld wrote: The only acceptable reason is visa issue? Assuming the groups are being played on weekdays, what about a part-time player having to study, who will potentialy miss several days if he doesn't want to be affected by jetlag? (I don't know if this is a real issue or not, but it seems to me it might be) I think you should not commit to WCS if work or school could get in the way, you have to be able to schedule around WCS. This is Premiere, this is for Pros. Well if you are in the hospital you can't play, so of course there are other reasons. My statement was too extreme. I hate extreme statements actually  . | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
On January 27 2015 01:41 Aeromi wrote: Some players like PiG or TargA already know where they are playing while some players still not know if they are going to play in Germany or USA. I just don't get why this has not been decided yet. Call me crazy, but I think there are other mediums than Twitter being used to communicate with players. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On January 27 2015 02:34 Musicus wrote: I think you should not commit to WCS if work or school could get in the way, you have to be able to schedule around WCS. This is Premiere, this is for Pros. Well if you are in the hospital you can't play, so of course there are other reasons. My statement was too extreme. I hate extreme statements actually .You weren't extreme enough. All players that aren't willing to commit every fibre of their being should be banned and hunted down like the filthy casuals they are. On January 27 2015 02:47 Circumstance wrote: Call me crazy, but I think there are other mediums than Twitter being used to communicate with players. Aeromi usually has inside sources though maybe he has heard something? | ||
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