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The Best of the West - A WCS Challenger Primer - Page 3

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Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
January 17 2015 12:22 GMT
#41
On January 17 2015 21:15 RaiKageRyu wrote:
I didn't even know Naniwa came back

Until he showed up in a qualifier and promptly made it in, I don't even think he knew he came back.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 17 2015 12:25 GMT
#42
On January 17 2015 19:58 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 19:56 BaneRiders wrote:
On January 17 2015 18:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I dont like challenger format at all. One match to decide who goes to premier...


I agree with you. I much preferred the group stage.


Same here. All that hard work in qualifier just to risk falling out because of one boX :-/

Yeah I agree too, especially seeing some of the matchups we're going to get
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
January 17 2015 12:29 GMT
#43
On January 17 2015 20:13 A_Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 17:53 ROOTiaguz wrote:
On January 17 2015 17:48 A_Scarecrow wrote:
what about sea players???? we getting an article??


We've already done our Challenger series. We in premier now, and I imagine me and PiG will get our write ups when our groups come up. You'll note they skipped China's finished Challenger as well.

oh i get it just be nice for a change for other countries to get write ups first

There was an SEA challenger preview article here
WriterForm is temporary, MMA is permanent || http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/508630-article-archive
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 12:33:58
January 17 2015 12:33 GMT
#44
--- Nuked ---
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 17 2015 12:37 GMT
#45
On January 17 2015 21:33 SatedSC2 wrote:
If HuK reaches Premier one more time in-a-row then he gets a NesTea award?


oh fuck yeah. He even has one more in a row than TLO, because of GSL S1 2013 (WoL).
uThermal
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands165 Posts
January 17 2015 12:40 GMT
#46
After 5 seasons of WCS TL still thinks TvT is my best matchup, even though it has been by far my worst since start of 2014 cool thread though
Team Liquid
royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
January 17 2015 12:42 GMT
#47
Kas won EU8 There's more. Does that qualify as "Last Good Result"?
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
January 17 2015 12:47 GMT
#48
(P)NaNiwa
Last Good Result: Previously retired

LOL
I Protoss winner, could it be?
freeamount
Profile Joined April 2010
China202 Posts
January 17 2015 13:11 GMT
#49
Really a hilarious thread. Can't stop laughing. XDDDD
Good job!
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 13:22:54
January 17 2015 13:20 GMT
#50
Nice article but quite unfair to the players, imo.
PtitDrogo and Majestic did actually qualify by beating infinitely superior opponents just by pure magic, apparently >_>
+ Show Spoiler +
except that TLO and Snute are supposed to be 100% premier material and Slivko/Dayshi/Nerchio aren't exactly free wins, more like the opposite <_<
Your Opinion has been counted. Only 3 more Opinions needed for a reddit thread.
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 13:25:49
January 17 2015 13:24 GMT
#51
On January 17 2015 22:20 MavivaM wrote:
Nice article but quite unfair to the players, imo.
PtitDrogo and Majestic did actually qualify by beating infinitely superior opponents just by pure magic, apparently >_>
+ Show Spoiler +
except that TLO and Snute are supposed to be 100% premier material and Slivko/Dayshi/Nerchio aren't exactly free wins, more like the opposite <_<

yeah i agree. Usually i find TL preview/writing to be very funny (and lichter's especially) but it's the second time that i find it more mean than funny :-(
Edit: i should add that of course it's was still fine, thanks for the writing anyway
ForGG. 29/11/2014
SinO[Ob]
Profile Joined October 2010
France898 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-17 13:48:12
January 17 2015 13:48 GMT
#52
Ooooh man ! This was so funny to read! xD My greetings for the author! Cant wait for WCS to finally start! Finally We will see the best representative of each regions! :D
Stephano and Clem enjoyer
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
January 17 2015 13:52 GMT
#53
On January 17 2015 19:56 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 18:16 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I dont like challenger format at all. One match to decide who goes to premier...


I agree with you. I much preferred the group stage.

I miss the GSL's old Up and Down 7 man groups! THAT is how you should be seeding players into premier leauge
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
January 17 2015 14:01 GMT
#54
"Our Expectations for 2015: Maybe a Premier League spot if he gets lucky with a zerg, but will probably just be a qualifier hero"
"Our Expectations for 2015: Anything from here is a bonus"

Nice respect for players
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 17 2015 14:02 GMT
#55
On January 17 2015 23:01 TheDwf wrote:
"Our Expectations for 2015: Maybe a Premier League spot if he gets lucky with a zerg, but will probably just be a qualifier hero"
"Our Expectations for 2015: Anything from here is a bonus"

Nice respect for players

As funny as it is... a normal user would probably get at least a warning if they posted that in a thread somewhere.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2257 Posts
January 17 2015 14:14 GMT
#56
i think heromarine will do a lot better than most people think, kid's insanely good
Cogito, ergo Toss
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 17 2015 14:21 GMT
#57
Polt won't win a season
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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
January 17 2015 14:26 GMT
#58
This is probably the easiest season for a foreigner to win WCS. Next season there will be at least Stardust and JD (?) and Heart will be qualifying through the Chinese qualifier since he's going to uni there now.
very illegal and very uncool
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
January 17 2015 14:27 GMT
#59
On January 17 2015 23:01 TheDwf wrote:
"Our Expectations for 2015: Maybe a Premier League spot if he gets lucky with a zerg, but will probably just be a qualifier hero"
"Our Expectations for 2015: Anything from here is a bonus"

Nice respect for players

It's a tongue-in-cheek article
very illegal and very uncool
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
January 17 2015 14:48 GMT
#60
On January 17 2015 23:21 Shellshock wrote:
Polt won't win a season


You don't get to be a 52 time WCS America champion without picking up WCS this year
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