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Dracover
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia177 Posts
January 09 2015 05:24 GMT
#21
Without the mechanics practice why would you think he would be any good?

It may be different if you asked "if he spent all his energy on SC2 rather than chess what would have happened?" but then you could pose that question about the elite in a variety of sporting fields as they are all incredibly dedicated and intelligent individuals.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10864 Posts
January 09 2015 05:25 GMT
#22
What if Hitler would of played Starcraft, he would of been really good right?
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knOxStarcraft
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada422 Posts
January 09 2015 06:26 GMT
#23
The variety of BM retards in GM should make it clear that intelligence is very weakly correlated to starcraft ability.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10864 Posts
January 09 2015 06:36 GMT
#24
On January 09 2015 15:26 knOxStarcraft wrote:
The variety of BM retards in GM should make it clear that intelligence is very weakly correlated to starcraft ability.


True, and the fact that there is so many maphackers and ladder is messed up atm. :-P
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 06:47:26
January 09 2015 06:47 GMT
#25
On January 09 2015 14:25 GGzerG wrote:
What if Hitler would of played Starcraft, he would of been really good right?


Yes, I mean who'd risk their life just to beat Hitler?
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
January 09 2015 06:50 GMT
#26
Sun Tzu would be much better than him.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 09 2015 06:51 GMT
#27
Sun Tzu would have disconnected his internet so he'd have won before the battle ever began. What a G.
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peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
January 09 2015 07:28 GMT
#28
Puppey mentioned in an AMA that Magnus is semi-familiar with Dota. Apparently a few Russian players are fans and he picked some up from them. Magnus playing Magnus, pls.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
January 09 2015 07:29 GMT
#29
On January 09 2015 11:48 [F_]aths wrote:
If he would play Starcraft, we would be fooked.

While he is no Bobby Fischer, he would leave us crushed.


What...? Carlsen is significantly better than Fischer.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
January 09 2015 07:33 GMT
#30
On January 09 2015 15:26 knOxStarcraft wrote:
The variety of BM retards in GM should make it clear that intelligence is very weakly correlated to starcraft ability.


intelligence =! good manners
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stapla05
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia67 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 08:21:07
January 09 2015 08:20 GMT
#31
I'm think of this question a bit differently if he played he would promote the game a lot. Yeah and of course he would be good.
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rararock
Profile Joined July 2014
United States41 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 08:31:04
January 09 2015 08:29 GMT
#32
On January 09 2015 14:24 Dracover wrote:
Without the mechanics practice why would you think he would be any good?

It may be different if you asked "if he spent all his energy on SC2 rather than chess what would have happened?" but then you could pose that question about the elite in a variety of sporting fields as they are all incredibly dedicated and intelligent individuals.


Is there any evidence that the elite in sporting fields are more intelligent that the average individual much less incredibly intelligent?

Anacreor
Profile Joined February 2013
Netherlands291 Posts
January 09 2015 08:46 GMT
#33
Hm, interesting question.. I think that all he needs to work on is some mechanics, because obviously he is a mastermind. The number of chess players on earth is much larger than the number of SC2 players, and Marcus is really dominant in chess, while there is no particular player that is on top of the earth right now in SC2.

If he had proper mechanics, I easily believe he might become the best player on earth.

Also, this reminded me of a world top 100m sprinter who joined a rugby/american football team. That was hilarious to watch, once the guy got the ball, he ran. And my god, he ran SO incredibly fast compared to the other players, not even close. It felt like they had hacked the game!
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K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
January 09 2015 09:00 GMT
#34
I am a firm believer that if a person can excel in one thing, he/she can excel in other things as well. It's not things like planning 500,000 chess moves in his head that make him good, it's his intelligence and the discipline to put in time and effort. Unless he's like bound by some limitation (physical) or obligation, he would do well if he put in the same amount of effort.
rararock
Profile Joined July 2014
United States41 Posts
January 09 2015 09:01 GMT
#35
I think it would be much more likely that someone with incredibly fast hands, idk a champion ping pong player or something would be better than an elite chess player. Sc2 is more about mechanics than intelligence. Things like marine splitting don't require you to be super intelligent. Sc2 is more akin to a sport then to an intellectual puzzle like chess.
Leke
Profile Joined March 2012
Brazil22 Posts
January 09 2015 12:59 GMT
#36
On January 09 2015 17:46 Anacreor wrote:
Hm, interesting question.. I think that all he needs to work on is some mechanics, because obviously he is a mastermind. The number of chess players on earth is much larger than the number of SC2 players, and Marcus is really dominant in chess, while there is no particular player that is on top of the earth right now in SC2.

If he had proper mechanics, I easily believe he might become the best player on earth.

Also, this reminded me of a world top 100m sprinter who joined a rugby/american football team. That was hilarious to watch, once the guy got the ball, he ran. And my god, he ran SO incredibly fast compared to the other players, not even close. It felt like they had hacked the game!



Yes, man..indeed I agree with you. Interesting about that "runner"..I think it was a good comparation. In one hand the mechanic was a hard detail to fight against..but on the other hand, Magnus being a mastermind, it would be a challenge to him
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
January 10 2015 15:58 GMT
#37
On January 09 2015 16:29 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 11:48 [F_]aths wrote:
If he would play Starcraft, we would be fooked.

While he is no Bobby Fischer, he would leave us crushed.


What...? Carlsen is significantly better than Fischer.

History will judge.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Almand
Profile Joined September 2012
19 Posts
January 10 2015 16:02 GMT
#38
On January 09 2015 11:34 Leke wrote:
Have you ever heard about Magnus Carlsen?


Why would we go so far from gaming? Even no bw-bonjwas are truly successful in sc2.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
January 10 2015 16:10 GMT
#39
flash apparently is quite good at a lot of other "brainy" games.
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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 16:13:19
January 10 2015 16:11 GMT
#40
Magnus Carlsen can never be as good at starcraft as he is at chess because he didn't start playing starcraft obsessively at the age of 8 like he did with chess.

This reminds me of this blog post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/298931-top-ranked-chess-player-getting-into-sc2
(check his account & highest career finish linked in his post)

On another note, a lot of BW/WC3 players did well in poker so maybe the type of skills needed translate.
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