On November 25 2014 01:07 nimdil wrote:
Plus perhaps better exposure for mYi?
Plus perhaps better exposure for mYi?
I think this is a huge part, weekend tournaments usually get around 50k viewers on twitch, Hot6 cup was getting like 10k.
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Cheren
United States2911 Posts
On November 25 2014 01:07 nimdil wrote: Plus perhaps better exposure for mYi? I think this is a huge part, weekend tournaments usually get around 50k viewers on twitch, Hot6 cup was getting like 10k. | ||
Silvana
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On November 25 2014 03:33 Darkhorse wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2014 03:31 Die4Ever wrote: On November 25 2014 03:18 Darkhorse wrote: Ok so it was pretty fucking irresponsible of Rain to play the group stage and then forfeit right? He's known he was qualified for San Jose since October and he knew the dates. herO did this as well but he didn't get past groups so he doesn't have to do this. Kind of a shitty thing to do. yea absolutely, players should get fined for backing out of tournaments like this I'm just thinking he shouldn't get money or WCS points from this tournament and tbh herO would've done the same thing had he advanced. Shame Well, I don't think he should be fined since he didn't break any rules... But yeah I dislike this move too. I expect the players to have some sort of commitment when entering a tournament, like you either don't enter IEM if it may confict on dates or don't enter Hot6 in the first place. Plus if he already knew he was going to San Jose, why waste your time playing the groups in Hot6 Cup? (and the other player's time and the tournament organizer's time too) I understand he now wants to travel as much as possible but I hope this behavior doesn't become a regular thing now that there's gonna be so much action in Korea... | ||
Yakikorosu
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On November 25 2014 04:17 Yakikorosu wrote: Presumably at the very least Rain will forfeit WCS points from Hot6ix Cup. Has it been announced whether IEM San Jose is giving WCS points for 2015? I would think it is but none is listed on the liquipedia page so far. I also must imagine being placed in a Ro16 group with (at least) two foreigners in it played a factor in Rain's decision. If, say, herO and Bomber were in Rain's IEM group I'm figuring this may not have been his decision. I think Rain was scared of losing to MKP ![]() | ||
SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On November 25 2014 04:18 The_Templar wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2014 04:17 Yakikorosu wrote: Presumably at the very least Rain will forfeit WCS points from Hot6ix Cup. Has it been announced whether IEM San Jose is giving WCS points for 2015? I would think it is but none is listed on the liquipedia page so far. I also must imagine being placed in a Ro16 group with (at least) two foreigners in it played a factor in Rain's decision. If, say, herO and Bomber were in Rain's IEM group I'm figuring this may not have been his decision. I think Rain was scared of losing to MKP ![]() MKP was such a scary player. But he was playing MVPMK... big difference | ||
Silvana
3713 Posts
On November 25 2014 04:18 The_Templar wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2014 04:17 Yakikorosu wrote: Presumably at the very least Rain will forfeit WCS points from Hot6ix Cup. Has it been announced whether IEM San Jose is giving WCS points for 2015? I would think it is but none is listed on the liquipedia page so far. I also must imagine being placed in a Ro16 group with (at least) two foreigners in it played a factor in Rain's decision. If, say, herO and Bomber were in Rain's IEM group I'm figuring this may not have been his decision. I think Rain was scared of losing to MKP ![]() haha definitely. He was scared of BL/Infestor! | ||
Blargh
United States2103 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On November 25 2014 04:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2014 04:18 The_Templar wrote: On November 25 2014 04:17 Yakikorosu wrote: Presumably at the very least Rain will forfeit WCS points from Hot6ix Cup. Has it been announced whether IEM San Jose is giving WCS points for 2015? I would think it is but none is listed on the liquipedia page so far. I also must imagine being placed in a Ro16 group with (at least) two foreigners in it played a factor in Rain's decision. If, say, herO and Bomber were in Rain's IEM group I'm figuring this may not have been his decision. I think Rain was scared of losing to MKP ![]() MKP was such a scary player. But he was playing MVPMK... big difference MVPMK is also really scary lately. | ||
Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
On November 25 2014 04:10 Silvana wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2014 03:33 Darkhorse wrote: On November 25 2014 03:31 Die4Ever wrote: On November 25 2014 03:18 Darkhorse wrote: Ok so it was pretty fucking irresponsible of Rain to play the group stage and then forfeit right? He's known he was qualified for San Jose since October and he knew the dates. herO did this as well but he didn't get past groups so he doesn't have to do this. Kind of a shitty thing to do. yea absolutely, players should get fined for backing out of tournaments like this I'm just thinking he shouldn't get money or WCS points from this tournament and tbh herO would've done the same thing had he advanced. Shame Well, I don't think he should be fined since he didn't break any rules... But yeah I dislike this move too. I expect the players to have some sort of commitment when entering a tournament, like you either don't enter IEM if it may confict on dates or don't enter Hot6 in the first place. Plus if he already knew he was going to San Jose, why waste your time playing the groups in Hot6 Cup? (and the other player's time and the tournament organizer's time too) I understand he now wants to travel as much as possible but I hope this behavior doesn't become a regular thing now that there's gonna be so much action in Korea... well yea I don't think they should just randomly fine him for it, I mean I think they should've had a rule for it already to fine him for this, and I think every big tournament should have such a rule | ||
vult
United States9400 Posts
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On November 25 2014 04:35 vult wrote: Wow. That is dumb. Also MKP should get a bye. It is dumb, but MKP getting a bye would be just as dumb. What if then, in the quarterfinals, Zestkey calls in sick? MKP goes straight to the finals off of winning a ro16 group? No one would take the finals seriously. PartinG/Flash/TY getting a second chance is only awkward if they beat MKP. If MKP wins, the tourney is still 100% on track. | ||
sharkie
Austria18407 Posts
Rain has qualified for IEM quite a long while ago and they know their tournament is at the same time. So why not just ask him and herO beforehand about their plans? | ||
Yonnua
United Kingdom2331 Posts
On November 25 2014 04:41 pure.Wasted wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2014 04:35 vult wrote: Wow. That is dumb. Also MKP should get a bye. It is dumb, but MKP getting a bye would be just as dumb. What if then, in the quarterfinals, Zestkey calls in sick? MKP goes straight to the finals off of winning a ro16 group? No one would take the finals seriously. You've clearly never heard of GGanDoL, the way, the truth and the life! | ||
KingofdaHipHop
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Silvana
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On November 25 2014 04:45 sharkie wrote: I agree that this sucks but I think part of the blame can be put on Hot6 as well. Rain has qualified for IEM quite a long while ago and they know their tournament is at the same time. So why not just ask him and herO beforehand about their plans? Why... what can Hot6 do? they cannot forbid them to participate... | ||
sharkie
Austria18407 Posts
On November 25 2014 04:48 Silvana wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2014 04:45 sharkie wrote: I agree that this sucks but I think part of the blame can be put on Hot6 as well. Rain has qualified for IEM quite a long while ago and they know their tournament is at the same time. So why not just ask him and herO beforehand about their plans? Why... what can Hot6 do? they cannot forbid them to participate... No, they could have asked Rain and herO about their plans. And planned beforehand | ||
SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On November 25 2014 04:53 sharkie wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2014 04:48 Silvana wrote: On November 25 2014 04:45 sharkie wrote: I agree that this sucks but I think part of the blame can be put on Hot6 as well. Rain has qualified for IEM quite a long while ago and they know their tournament is at the same time. So why not just ask him and herO beforehand about their plans? Why... what can Hot6 do? they cannot forbid them to participate... No, they could have asked Rain and herO about their plans. And planned beforehand 16 players, 16 schedules. That is excluding everybody who participated in the qualifiers. | ||
hansonslee
United States2027 Posts
BUT it does suck that last year's champion would duck out like that... | ||
sharkie
Austria18407 Posts
On November 25 2014 04:55 SC2Toastie wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2014 04:53 sharkie wrote: On November 25 2014 04:48 Silvana wrote: On November 25 2014 04:45 sharkie wrote: I agree that this sucks but I think part of the blame can be put on Hot6 as well. Rain has qualified for IEM quite a long while ago and they know their tournament is at the same time. So why not just ask him and herO beforehand about their plans? Why... what can Hot6 do? they cannot forbid them to participate... No, they could have asked Rain and herO about their plans. And planned beforehand 16 players, 16 schedules. That is excluding everybody who participated in the qualifiers. one look at liquipedia tells me all I need to know about DH:Winter and IEM Sao Paolo: who is attending where Is it really too much to ask someone to take a look? These informations are not difficult to find | ||
Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
On November 25 2014 04:56 hansonslee wrote: Who cares, guys? Korean e-Sports is saved with PartinG vs. Flash, the rivalry of the century! BUT it does suck that last year's champion would duck out like that... Parting vs MKP was a better rivalry | ||
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