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Tower Overwhelming - Life Wins WCS 2014 - Page 3

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Tibbroar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States161 Posts
November 12 2014 10:08 GMT
#41
I blame MMA for this, he ruined everything by knocking out Bomber.
I will always believe in the fallen king.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 10:14:30
November 12 2014 10:09 GMT
#42
On November 12 2014 19:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 18:59 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 12 2014 17:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I blame KeSPA, as does a big part of the Korean community from what I hear ;o

Why?


I heard that all Kespa players were flown in exactly one day before their Ro16 matches, which would leave any normal human being severely jetlagged or at least extremely uncomfortable. There were protests against it from players and coaches but to no avail. Then Zest and soO lost in the Ro16, and the KR community is putting a lot of the blame on KeSPA.

At least that's what I keep hearing.

But I remember seeing pics on the closed Day1 thread of Zest going to BlizzCon and that was like 2-3 days before? I'll try to find them again and verify
nvm, looks like I'm wrong. It's pretty surprising from KeSPA tbh, I can't see the reason behind this

On November 12 2014 19:07 Quixotic_tv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 19:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 12 2014 18:59 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 12 2014 17:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I blame KeSPA, as does a big part of the Korean community from what I hear ;o

Why?


I heard that all Kespa players were flown in exactly one day before their Ro16 matches, which would leave any normal human being severely jetlagged or at least extremely uncomfortable. There were protests against it from players and coaches but to no avail. Then Zest and soO lost in the Ro16, and the KR community is putting a lot of the blame on KeSPA.

At least that's what I keep hearing.


Isn't Life a KeSPA player as well?

StarTale isn't part of KeSPA. It doesn't have any allegiance afaik
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Quixotic_tv
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany130 Posts
November 12 2014 10:12 GMT
#43
On November 12 2014 19:09 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 19:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 12 2014 18:59 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 12 2014 17:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I blame KeSPA, as does a big part of the Korean community from what I hear ;o

Why?


I heard that all Kespa players were flown in exactly one day before their Ro16 matches, which would leave any normal human being severely jetlagged or at least extremely uncomfortable. There were protests against it from players and coaches but to no avail. Then Zest and soO lost in the Ro16, and the KR community is putting a lot of the blame on KeSPA.

At least that's what I keep hearing.

But I remember seeing pics on the closed Day1 thread of Zest going to BlizzCon and that was like 2-3 days before? I'll try to find them again and verify

Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 19:07 Quixotic_tv wrote:
On November 12 2014 19:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On November 12 2014 18:59 OtherWorld wrote:
On November 12 2014 17:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I blame KeSPA, as does a big part of the Korean community from what I hear ;o

Why?


I heard that all Kespa players were flown in exactly one day before their Ro16 matches, which would leave any normal human being severely jetlagged or at least extremely uncomfortable. There were protests against it from players and coaches but to no avail. Then Zest and soO lost in the Ro16, and the KR community is putting a lot of the blame on KeSPA.

At least that's what I keep hearing.


Isn't Life a KeSPA player as well?

StarTale isn't part of KeSPA. It doesn't have any allegiance afaik


Oops, I meant the ST IM Alliance in PL.
Life always finds a way.
Tzyx
Profile Joined August 2010
Northern Ireland281 Posts
November 12 2014 10:53 GMT
#44
nice article, good way to close out the season for sure
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 12 2014 11:27 GMT
#45
Great article, love the quotes too. Really an unbelievable storyline, you couldn't have handpicked Life's opponents better for his amazing run.
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JimmyHollow
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom249 Posts
November 12 2014 12:12 GMT
#46
Well I blame Artosis as usual
SeriousLus
Profile Joined July 2012
169 Posts
November 12 2014 12:45 GMT
#47
i agree with the article in the manner that its a disgrace that no caster picked him/ mentioned him as a possible winner (was I the only one here that didnt count Life out?)
Zest here, Zest there - MMA this MMA that.. Bomber is soooooooo good - noone can beat SAn in PvZ
thats the only thing i remember about what was said beforehand - pretty sad, given the fact those guys make their living this way... And none of them predicted even 1 player correctly.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 12 2014 12:47 GMT
#48
On November 12 2014 21:45 SeriousLus wrote:
i agree with the article in the manner that its a disgrace that no caster picked him/ mentioned him as a possible winner (was I the only one here that didnt count Life out?)
Zest here, Zest there - MMA this MMA that.. Bomber is soooooooo good - noone can beat SAn in PvZ
thats the only thing i remember about what was said beforehand - pretty sad, given the fact those guys make their living this way... And none of them predicted even 1 player correctly.


You and me, bro

On October 19 2014 01:01 Zealously wrote:
All hail the Blizzcon champion

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ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3520 Posts
November 12 2014 12:58 GMT
#49
Life is the JaeDong we all deserve!
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
Jornada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States223 Posts
November 12 2014 13:39 GMT
#50
I must say that Life plays a Style of Zerg that is fitting of the actual race. Zerg is often noted as "The Swarm" ... Life plays Zerg the way Zerg is ment to be played. Constant harassment, ling rung by's, hidden strategies!

I love JD but Life really is amazing.. and only freaking 17... crazy.
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Video2000
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark517 Posts
November 12 2014 13:55 GMT
#51
Life did lose games 3 and 4 vs Zest "inelegantly" but it's pretty funny how desperate Zest was - trying to cheese Life out the tournament :D That and the semifinal vs Taeja were probably the best series for me.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-12 14:17:01
November 12 2014 14:13 GMT
#52
That DT build on merry go round is just something he does a lot

Cannon rushing vs someone who went 3hatch before pool twice (or even three times?) can't exactly be described as desperate
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Video2000
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark517 Posts
November 12 2014 14:22 GMT
#53
Well in context it did, to me, after he looked helpless in two pretty straight up games although he did win a drawn out macro on a huge map. Maybe it wasn't desperate but considering the execution of the last one..
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
November 12 2014 14:28 GMT
#54
Keep in mind that cheesing isn't always a sign of desperation/fear to play a long macro game. It can also be a way to mindgame the opponent (sOs-herO, anyone?), an intelligent exploitation of an opponent who always plays the same, force a greedy opponent to play safer (case of the cannon rush vs 3hatch before pool), or just a sign of disrespect towards the opponent's skill (Flash vs MajOr / Classic vs State)
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 12 2014 14:34 GMT
#55
On November 12 2014 23:22 Video2000 wrote:
Well in context it did, to me, after he looked helpless in two pretty straight up games although he did win a drawn out macro on a huge map. Maybe it wasn't desperate but considering the execution of the last one..


The two straight up games you're talking about were two all ins from Life after Zest fell behind after the build choices (Life got away with 3 hatch before pool twice).
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Video2000
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark517 Posts
November 12 2014 15:21 GMT
#56
But Zest went nexus first both times iirc, so it's not that horrible straight off the build choices tbh and he did try to go aggressive himself in g2 didn't he? But yeah, desperate might be the wrong word, but Zest really seemed to be broken by g5.
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
November 12 2014 15:23 GMT
#57
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 12 2014 15:29 GMT
#58
On November 13 2014 00:21 Video2000 wrote:
But Zest went nexus first both times iirc, so it's not that horrible straight off the build choices tbh and he did try to go aggressive himself in g2 didn't he? But yeah, desperate might be the wrong word, but Zest really seemed to be broken by g5.


He went gate first, then nexus first. Gate first vs 3hatch is basically an auto loss if zerg doesn't mess up. Nexus first still leaves you behind a bit. G2 Zest did an unsaturated third gateway attack which Life blindly countered perfectly by going roach/ling all in to kill the third.

Then Zest won two games in a row and figured that Life would go super greed again, because that's how he won the two games, and cannon rushed. That's why it looked like to me.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Sir_Figs
Profile Joined October 2014
Canada9 Posts
November 12 2014 15:32 GMT
#59
On November 12 2014 14:51 Apoteosis wrote:
There were three zergs at the RO16.

At the end of the carnage of the RO16, Life was the only zerg remaining. Jaedong, out. Soo, eliminated.


Poor HyuN, he might as well have not even existed lol. Though that is how I felt about the last series in the Ro16, that was a loooong day.

In effect, Life actually won 5 times - wasn't he was the only person who fought the Artosis curse (1 of 15 lol) in the series vs. San?

If that's true, it makes his run even more legendary. While it's silly superstition (well, and Artosis is obviously just bad at predicting) - who knows, maybe now the legend of the curse actually triggers some weird doubt deep in the psyche of the players, causing them to flub in strange ways. Only Life just had the mental strength to fight against Artosis, nevermind in convincing fashion
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
November 12 2014 15:49 GMT
#60
On November 13 2014 00:32 Sir_Figs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 14:51 Apoteosis wrote:
There were three zergs at the RO16.

At the end of the carnage of the RO16, Life was the only zerg remaining. Jaedong, out. Soo, eliminated.


Poor HyuN, he might as well have not even existed lol. Though that is how I felt about the last series in the Ro16, that was a loooong day.

In effect, Life actually won 5 times - wasn't he was the only person who fought the Artosis curse (1 of 15 lol) in the series vs. San?

If that's true, it makes his run even more legendary. While it's silly superstition (well, and Artosis is obviously just bad at predicting) - who knows, maybe now the legend of the curse actually triggers some weird doubt deep in the psyche of the players, causing them to flub in strange ways. Only Life just had the mental strength to fight against Artosis, nevermind in convincing fashion


MMA vs Stardust iirc
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