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BlizzCon to be on ESPN3 - Page 4

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VavPK
Profile Joined May 2011
United States196 Posts
November 07 2014 17:52 GMT
#61
On November 07 2014 15:29 Wolf wrote:
Never see dat leeg of legens on teev tho


Not sure if this sarcasm, but league's grand finals was on ESPN3 as well.
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
November 07 2014 19:17 GMT
#62
On November 07 2014 22:32 Cinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2014 14:47 ninazerg wrote:
On November 07 2014 14:44 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
On November 07 2014 14:40 The_Templar wrote:
Great news. Hopefully this brings people to sc2 and not just hearthstone/wow.

Well the good news is WoW isn't particularly exciting to watch for most people and the ones who do watch it will have already played it, so mission been accomplished. Hearthstone has as much curb appeal to a casual audience as your neighborhood crackhouse does, because who the fuck wants to watch cards fight each other?


You have to keep in mind, people like to watch stupid things.


When WoW had even more players, they would get maybe 30k viewers(except for blizzcon maybe), when it was an established eSport.

Now the playerbase is reduced and eSport in WoW is waaay less consistent(it's only really a tournament at blizzcon, that is it). It has never been exciting as an eSport, and never will be


=(

Before I got addicted to TL when WoL came out, I was compulsively on Arenajunkies for the WoW arena PvP scene. I think there used to be WoW arena 3v3 at IEM, WCG, and MLG, besides just Blizzcon.

The games themselves were/are a bit of a clusterfuck, but the storylines were pretty fun to follow, and I have good memories of the tournament LRs, blogs, forums, and drama, though overall it was more underdeveloped, immature, and drama-filled than the SC scene.

Hearthstone is a much better eSport viewer experience, and being F2P I'd expect that game to get the most bump from ESPN coverage out of the three. Even so, ESPN got plenty of negative tweets from traditional sports fans when it showed TI4, and I'd imagine the same thing will happen now.
Marineking-Polt-Maru-Fantasy-Solar-Xenocider-Suppy fighting!
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
November 07 2014 20:04 GMT
#63
On November 07 2014 14:44 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2014 14:40 The_Templar wrote:
Great news. Hopefully this brings people to sc2 and not just hearthstone/wow.

Well the good news is WoW isn't particularly exciting to watch for most people and the ones who do watch it will have already played it, so mission been accomplished. Hearthstone has as much curb appeal to a casual audience as your neighborhood crackhouse does, because who the fuck wants to watch cards fight each other?

So hopefully this will be SC2's chance to pull in a little spotlight.


People love watching Poker, HS casts remind me quite a bit of the mind-game / predictive parts of Poker events on TV so I don't see why not?

Besides, people have always watched Magic on Twitch or on TV (when it was on TV that is) and as others have mentioned, HS is probably the #2 game streamed on Twitch now anyways.
Moxx82
Profile Joined August 2011
United States53 Posts
November 07 2014 20:04 GMT
#64
Searched all the channels we get, only ESPN and ESPN2. Go fucking figure.
top 3 (sphincter) control
Dranak
Profile Joined July 2011
United States464 Posts
November 07 2014 23:13 GMT
#65
On November 08 2014 05:04 Moxx82 wrote:
Searched all the channels we get, only ESPN and ESPN2. Go fucking figure.



Espn3 is their online service, not a TV channel.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
November 08 2014 01:34 GMT
#66
On November 07 2014 14:50 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2014 14:45 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On November 07 2014 14:44 VeNoM HaZ Skill wrote:
On November 07 2014 14:40 The_Templar wrote:
Great news. Hopefully this brings people to sc2 and not just hearthstone/wow.

Well the good news is WoW isn't particularly exciting to watch for most people and the ones who do watch it will have already played it, so mission been accomplished. Hearthstone has as much curb appeal to a casual audience as your neighborhood crackhouse does, because who the fuck wants to watch cards fight each other?

So hopefully this will be SC2's chance to pull in a little spotlight.


Well, Hearthstone streams tend to get like 50k viewers, so a lot of people do apparently :/


On November 07 2014 14:45 OtherWorld wrote:
I don't know much about ESPN3, is this a 'real' TV channel or an Internet-only channel that is owned by ESPN? Also isn't it the channel that broadcasted part of TI4? Good news anyway (:


It's a satellite TV thing I think. And ya, TI4 was on it, so apparently that did well enough that they're willing to try other games.

I guess I should be clear on what I meant by a casual audience on a sports station, I mean older teens into young adults. I think Hearthstone's audience is right up there with the Minecraft youtube audience (kids).

On the other side of things, didn't Sundance mention maybe getting MLG on ESPN 3 oh so many years ago


There's your problem right there. You can't use your own perspective and apply it to a crowd. After all, professional poker is popular, no?
bigbadgreen
Profile Joined October 2010
United States142 Posts
November 08 2014 05:09 GMT
#67
the real thing here is that everybody needs to open the espn 3 stream if they can. there needs to be as many viewers on as possible. even if you watch the stream through twitch, put the espn stream on in the background. espn has more money than they know what to do with. sc2 needs to tap into that and the only way to do that is to show viewer numbers. espn 3 is a legitimate source of income for a lot of sports, you just need to show the numbers. as a fan of lesser popular division 1 college conference I can say I've utilized espn 3 a lot to get to view my favorite team play. The conference has also leveraged their viewer numbers to increase the amount of money they can get. sc2 can work a similar model.
creamyturtle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States487 Posts
November 09 2014 12:52 GMT
#68
so we got like 134k viewers at the peak on twitch. does anybody know the ESPN3 numbers?
Terran it up.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
November 09 2014 13:21 GMT
#69
Did anyone catch the ESPN coverage?
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
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