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Happy leaves Empire, Empire leaves SC2 - Page 3

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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25727 Posts
October 14 2014 00:33 GMT
#41
On October 14 2014 08:59 Patate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 08:52 HmmmCookies wrote:
It's not like Empire were very relevant anyways
..


The same can be said about sc2 in the whole E-sports scene now..

What games outside of the big MOBA titles are bigger?

Not sure what is going on outside of the SC bubble
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 14 2014 00:36 GMT
#42
On October 14 2014 09:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 08:59 Patate wrote:
On October 14 2014 08:52 HmmmCookies wrote:
It's not like Empire were very relevant anyways
..


The same can be said about sc2 in the whole E-sports scene now..

What games outside of the big MOBA titles are bigger?

Not sure what is going on outside of the SC bubble


I'm pretty sure any number of random F2P FPS' in China or Korea or Russia has a bigger scene by numbers alone lol.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25727 Posts
October 14 2014 00:51 GMT
#43
If they don't have a big tournament scene they don't really count as a bigger eSport title surely?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
October 14 2014 00:58 GMT
#44
I think counter strike is bigger than SC2 atm
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
October 14 2014 01:00 GMT
#45
gl happy
the only non-korean player i'm following closely
Koromon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States304 Posts
October 14 2014 01:19 GMT
#46
Never hoped for a player being picked as much as I'm hoping now for Happy :'(. His stream has been the most enjoyable for me and I hope he continues to stream/gets support from someone!
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
October 14 2014 01:20 GMT
#47
On October 14 2014 09:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 08:59 Patate wrote:
On October 14 2014 08:52 HmmmCookies wrote:
It's not like Empire were very relevant anyways
..


The same can be said about sc2 in the whole E-sports scene now..

What games outside of the big MOBA titles are bigger?

Not sure what is going on outside of the SC bubble

CSGO and Hearthstone, at least. Probably some fighting game as well, the only one I know anything about is SSBM.
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Gojira621
Profile Joined October 2010
United States374 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-14 02:00:17
October 14 2014 01:59 GMT
#48
On October 14 2014 09:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 08:59 Patate wrote:
On October 14 2014 08:52 HmmmCookies wrote:
It's not like Empire were very relevant anyways
..


The same can be said about sc2 in the whole E-sports scene now..

What games outside of the big MOBA titles are bigger?

Not sure what is going on outside of the SC bubble


hearthstone blew past sc2 as soon as it was released and has stayed well above sc2 ever since. CSGO had a slow start but had skyrocketed in the past several months, their last major a couple months ago had like 500k viewers. Meanwhile WCS America Finals pulls in barely 30k viewers (it didnt air at a great time but still) It used to just be LoL and Dota2 that were way above starcraft, but now its several games. The teams are pulling out, there are few controversial and fun personalities to follow now (they've mostly either quit or kind of gone away), very few team houses outside korea it seems, no more talk shows with said personalities, etc. Its just not the same anymore, and to be honest I don't see legacy of the void really changing that.
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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
October 14 2014 02:09 GMT
#49
Good Foreigners always get snatched up Happy will be no exception Sad to see another big team in esports closing it's doors to SC2 maybe they will come back with the release of LotV which I hope is next year.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44618 Posts
October 14 2014 02:10 GMT
#50
Looks like Happy just brought down an entire Empire.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 14 2014 02:13 GMT
#51
Another one bites the dust.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10675 Posts
October 14 2014 02:22 GMT
#52
Sad, empire seemed to be doing good in SC2 for a long time, gl to both parties in the future.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
revalence123
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States102 Posts
October 14 2014 02:43 GMT
#53
Noo, I hope Happy does ok, but it's pretty sad to see Empire shutdown their SC2 team
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 14 2014 02:58 GMT
#54
On October 14 2014 09:58 ROOTFayth wrote:
I think counter strike is bigger than SC2 atm


You are correct.

The last major tournament had 350k viewers or something ridiculous (I almost want to say 400k, but can't remember if it got that high or not).
When I think of something else, something will go here
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1842 Posts
October 14 2014 03:15 GMT
#55
On October 14 2014 11:58 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 09:58 ROOTFayth wrote:
I think counter strike is bigger than SC2 atm


You are correct.

The last major tournament had 350k viewers or something ridiculous (I almost want to say 400k, but can't remember if it got that high or not).


Which is incredible, because CS:GO was absolute garbage when it came out, but Valve has listened to its community and has made it an amazing game. Each patch has made the game better and added little new features to both the gameplay and to the interface and really improved the quality of the game. And they didn't even have to wait for an expansion to do it!

Funny how that works.
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
October 14 2014 03:20 GMT
#56
Can't wait to see where he ends up. Awesome terran player.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Bibu
Profile Joined August 2010
Russian Federation163 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-14 03:54:15
October 14 2014 03:52 GMT
#57
gl Happy in new team!)
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tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
October 14 2014 03:59 GMT
#58
On October 14 2014 08:59 Patate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 08:52 HmmmCookies wrote:
It's not like Empire were very relevant anyways
..


The same can be said about sc2 in the whole E-sports scene now..

do you even have a reason to be here at all?
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 14 2014 04:04 GMT
#59
On October 14 2014 12:59 tomastaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 08:59 Patate wrote:
On October 14 2014 08:52 HmmmCookies wrote:
It's not like Empire were very relevant anyways
..


The same can be said about sc2 in the whole E-sports scene now..

do you even have a reason to be here at all?

To mourn what sc2 could have been if David Kim and Browder weren't incompetent? There are a lot of ex sc2 fans on this forum who are still here for the community or for the hopes that Lotv will miraculously not be so awful. And theres always the smug broodwar fans who hated sc2 before it was cool.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
October 14 2014 04:49 GMT
#60
On October 14 2014 13:04 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 12:59 tomastaz wrote:
On October 14 2014 08:59 Patate wrote:
On October 14 2014 08:52 HmmmCookies wrote:
It's not like Empire were very relevant anyways
..


The same can be said about sc2 in the whole E-sports scene now..

do you even have a reason to be here at all?

To mourn what sc2 could have been if David Kim and Browder weren't incompetent? There are a lot of ex sc2 fans on this forum who are still here for the community or for the hopes that Lotv will miraculously not be so awful. And theres always the smug broodwar fans who hated sc2 before it was cool.

"mourning" = passive aggressively trolling people for still enjoying something they don't enjoy i guess?

the reason "deadgaem" is warnable is not because it's an opinion against SC2 but because people who say it and repeat it are overwhelmingly obnoxious trolls who want to put others down and make the scene less friendly and amiable
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