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[Code S] Ro4: INnoVation vs Cure Preview - Season 3

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[Code S] Ro4: INnoVation vs Cure Preview - Season 3

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
Graphics byMeru
September 26th, 2014 01:54 GMT
2014 GSL Season 3

GSL Season Three
Code S



The Past vs the Present
INnoVation vs Cure

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The Past vs the Present


by DarkHorse and stuchiu

This GSL Season has been a clash of the old and the new. You need look no farther than the Round of 8 for proof of that dynamic. Cure against Solar was the new generation of future champions; DRG vs Innovation, the battle of titans whose glory days have passed them by. Zest knocked out Rain to finally claim his spot as the best Protoss on Earth. soO broke Stats' back to meet Zest in the semi-finals. There we saw the third rematch in Zest and soO's rivalry, another clash between the two best players of their respective races. This time soO came out victorious, leaving no doubt that the GSL Finals were his house.

It is reasonably fitting then that the other semi-final is a Terran mirror match. In eons long past GSL had gone by a different name, affectionately known by some as GOMTvT. Despite the derisive epithet, that era introduced us to the most nuanced and nail-biting mirror matchup in SC2. TvT has given some of the best games to have ever been played, showdowns like Ryung vs Flash, MMA vs Mvp, Ryung vs Polt, Gumiho vs MMA, and INnoVation vs Taeja. Throughout nearly all of 2014, that matchup had been missing in the GSL. We had to wait until Season 3 to get our first glimpse of Code S-level games, where Cure slapped down Reality in group stages. Before that, we need to go all the way back to October 3, 2013 for the last GSL TvT. Auspiciously, this will be the first time we will have had a Terran in the finals of a GSL since INnoVation’s 2013 run in WCS KR Season 1.

The Past

For INnoVation, this must all seem like a fever dream. Around a year ago, back when he was clearly the world's best player, the first cracks in his armor were already starting to appear. TvT looked to be his his Achilles' Heel, and many people thought he had been a bit exposed by Bomber when he was beaten badly in the OSL Round of 16. In the semi-finals INnoVation was set up to play Maru, the Prime prodigy that had finally found his way. We all know the story. INnoVation was incapable of keeping up with Maru's early game aggression. He was battered, beaten, and broken in an 0-4 loss that stands as one of the worst defeats in his career.

Here we are again. Once more INnoVation meets a wunderkind Terran in the semi-finals, this time the teammate of the one who struck him down. The resemblance is uncanny. After years of slavishly grinding away, Cure seems to be on a hot streak that no one can fathom. Just like Maru, Cure reached #1 GM on the Korean ladder shortly before kicking into overdrive; like Maru, he crushed his way through the earlier stages of the GSL.

But there are two major differences between now and then. First, INnoVation’s TvT is an absolute mystery at the moment. He has 6 TvTs in 2 months, 3 of them being Bo1s, and none during GSL. Last time Maru went in as the unknown factor, and he exploited that advantage to create the perfect battle plan. This time INnoVation is the one standing in the shadows, formulating strategies against an opponent with an extensive record of recent TvTs.

The second difference is time. INnoVation has endured one year of frustrations, bitter defeats, and humility. The wager he made on the foreign scene didn't pan out as he was constantly beaten back in every individual league he participated in. Though he is no longer the monster he once was, what he has now is that set of references. If INnoVation has taken any lessons from them, then we may see a completely different kind of series tonight. For some that can mean everything. Mvp nearly used experience alone to win a GSL Finals. Others like Flash have almost stubbornly ignored their experiences, and end up dying the same ways they did nearly an year ago.

The Present

Back when the Flash hype train was still alive, people were citing the same stats every day. Flash was 65-17 in map score from July to August, with a total winrate of 79.27%; he looked unstoppable in every matchup and was humiliating top-tier opponents left and right. Cure’s stats are just as incredible. From the beginning of August to now, he has gone 67-27 in maps and 31-4 in series. Even more impressively, he has gone 14-4 in TvT series with wins against Polt, Reality, Gumiho and Ryung. His only series losses were to Sorry, Reality, Bunny and Bomber.

Unfortunately for Cure, that loss to Bomber was the greatest present he could have given to INnoVation. In the Red Bull D.C. finals he got wrecked 0-4, showing INnoVation and the world he was vulnerable in the matchup. On the other hand, losing to Bomber in humiliating fashion may be a stronger sign of Bomber's strength than Cure's weakness. Despite being regarded as a “3rd-rate Terran” by a lot of people, he has recently won series against players like Soulkey, Rain, Flash, INnoVation, and Bbyong.

The parallels between Cure and Maru are uncanny. Both were young up and coming Terrans that instantly lit up and took the scene by storm; both are currently teammates on Jin Air Green Wings; Maru beat INnoVation in his semi-finals run of his OSL Championship and Cure is about to enter the very same situation. Yet how they got there may mean the difference between a GSL finals and wistful defeat. Maru spent years on Prime overcoming his nerves before he won the OSL. Despite his young age, he is one of the few remaining participants from GSL Open Season 1. Cure is a survivor of the KeSPA machine. Many glorify the KeSPA training regime for churning out the great players of the age, and it deserves those accolades 100%. But for every great player made another retired, burned out or never debuted at all. While Cure’s story may not have the poignancy of Maru's and INnoVation's, his struggles have been no less meaningful. So it is here that he will attempt to write the first chapter of his era.

Prediction:
Innovation 4-2 Cure

Writers: Darkhorse, stuchiu.
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Graphics: Meru.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 26 2014 01:54 GMT
#2
I predict the same score
INnoVation fighting!!!!
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 26 2014 01:56 GMT
#3
Hoping for at least a 6 game series. I expect Inno will advance, which is gonna lead to an epic showdown in the finals
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
September 26 2014 02:06 GMT
#4
I really want the games to be good, almost don't care about the number (although I'd like a long series, at least in terms of time spent)
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2104 Posts
September 26 2014 02:10 GMT
#5
Same prediction. I am so stoked. Mostly because the thought of Innovation vs soO is so possible. Oh my gosh...

Also, agree with The_Templar. I really just want to see good TvT matches, since those have been ~completely absent from GSL...
TerranOwnsAll
Profile Joined January 2014
359 Posts
September 26 2014 02:32 GMT
#6
I think overall the games are going to be very close, but Innos gonna come thru with better stamina and having cluth performances to take 4 games, I feel Cure will win one game on a mistake by Innovation

Innovation 4: 1 Cure
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
September 26 2014 02:36 GMT
#7
Cure 4-2 ggnore this will be good though, and I'm a toss
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jakethesnake
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada4948 Posts
September 26 2014 02:41 GMT
#8
Innovation 4:1. I'd be surprised if cure has managed to improve his TvT quickly after bomber showed the holes in it at RBBG.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
September 26 2014 02:41 GMT
#9
Hopefully Cure plays a lot better than he did vs Bomber or this could be a snooze fest
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stubzi
Profile Joined April 2013
30 Posts
September 26 2014 02:42 GMT
#10
I suspect INoVation to win.
I think the 4-0 loss to Bomber was just Bomber playing like the beast he is.
Cure will still put up a damn good fight against Ino. It will probably be close.
THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
September 26 2014 02:50 GMT
#11
Cure i think 4-3
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thantritue
Profile Joined February 2010
Vietnam70 Posts
September 26 2014 02:54 GMT
#12
If Cure wins, it will be 4-1 or 4-0.
If Inno wins, 4-3, I guess.
banjoetheredskin
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States744 Posts
September 26 2014 03:02 GMT
#13
Innovation wins. soO goes up 3-0 in the finals. Innovation wins 4 straight. soO loses 4 straight in two different contexts.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 26 2014 03:03 GMT
#14
On September 26 2014 12:02 banjoetheredskin wrote:
Innovation wins. soO goes up 3-0 in the finals. Innovation wins 4 straight. soO loses 4 straight in two different contexts.

Only Innovation can choke that hard in a final
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BlackPride
Profile Joined July 2012
United States186 Posts
September 26 2014 03:08 GMT
#15
if cure wins, what does this mean about bomber?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
September 26 2014 03:15 GMT
#16
On September 26 2014 12:08 BlackPride wrote:
if cure wins, what does this mean about bomber?

bombjwa
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
September 26 2014 03:18 GMT
#17
On September 26 2014 12:08 BlackPride wrote:
if cure wins, what does this mean about bomber?


that Bomber is near unbeatable if to many think he has no chance. The law was never broken or anything it just had a well hidden clause.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 26 2014 03:22 GMT
#18
It proves what we've always known about Bomber: He's fookin good at TvT and he makes his own meta
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-26 03:31:45
September 26 2014 03:31 GMT
#19
Good writeup overall though there are quite a bit of mistakes lol. I remember being impressed by Cure in a TvZ on antiga back when Kespa first switched and put him on my fpl as a result then he disappeared. It's interesting to hear he's on a roll recently. Innovation is still a strong opponent though so I would go with him winning in the end.
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iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
September 26 2014 04:21 GMT
#20
I don't really see cure winning this after his performance vs bomber.
4-0 Innovation
But i really want SoO to win and innovation is ridiculous
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