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argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2722 Posts
August 11 2014 19:21 GMT
#261
On August 12 2014 03:00 TommyP wrote:
Only criticism I have is DRG's lack of invite

I think DRG had Red Bull Battleground Global conflict in schedule
very illegal and very uncool
Byyk
Profile Joined December 2004
457 Posts
August 11 2014 19:21 GMT
#262
Destiny, I am impressed. From villain of SC2 scene to the savior. Really nice work. When I remember:

And now after all that time, like twist... Keep with good work, it is appreciated.
Ma Jae Yoon, sAviOr, the greatest player of all time.
wmb
Profile Joined February 2014
Sweden282 Posts
August 11 2014 19:25 GMT
#263
This is pure awesomeness destiny! gj
Hi I'm the infamous wmb, Diamond 1 / Challenger Player.
Jornada
Profile Joined February 2012
United States223 Posts
August 11 2014 19:25 GMT
#264
I was not a fan of yours in the past. It has only been recently that i have had more respect for you. I personally understand what it is to do an event almost entirely on your own. It takes alot of work, planning, budgeting, scheduling etc... I enjoyed the stream. I feel like it will only get better second time around.

As far as KeSPA goes... I would hold off from inviting their players for now. My reason is let yourself get established with this event really well. If you can run this even strong without KeSPA players than you are already ahead of the game. Once you have solid foundation and you want to have KeSPA players play in your event your success will give you more punching power to have your demands met as well.

Overall Great Job.
www.twitch.tv/jornada28 Master Protoss. Follow me on Twitter for SC2 Updates https://twitter.com/#!/elelvlent
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
August 11 2014 19:25 GMT
#265
Love seeing these write-ups, glad it was a successful tournament!
Moderatorlickypiddy
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
August 11 2014 19:29 GMT
#266
Love the transparency. Loved the tournament. Keep it up.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
August 11 2014 19:32 GMT
#267
I thank you for your clarity, and for your commitment to both the community and the preservation of 2014 Destiny. Your style may rub me the wrong way on more than one occasion, but all the same, I wish nothing but success for Destiny II and onward.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Cheeseling
Profile Joined March 2012
Ukraine132 Posts
August 11 2014 19:37 GMT
#268
Destiny saving e-sports!
Cheeseling
Profile Joined March 2012
Ukraine132 Posts
August 11 2014 19:39 GMT
#269
On August 12 2014 04:21 Byyk wrote:
Destiny, I am impressed. From villain of SC2 scene to the savior. Really nice work. When I remember:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4FTflKqQ58
And now after all that time, like twist... Keep with good work, it is appreciated.


You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.
-Winston Churchill

Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 11 2014 19:40 GMT
#270
On August 12 2014 04:09 StatixEx wrote:
was the best tournie of all the weekend considering what you were up against, the dragon invit, proleague, redbull and some other highly watched streams and weeklys. Was great Destiny, id be more than happy to donate a couple hundred dollars for the next one and i expect absolutely nothing back . .except for the tournie itself and a rotterdam/destiny casting final


Show nested quote +

TotalBiscuit is by far one of the best people in the SC2 scene currently and we owe him a lot of thanks.
Destiny II will be great and I can't wait for it.


i simply dont agree

Just out of curiosity. Why not?
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badeanden
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway56 Posts
August 11 2014 19:44 GMT
#271
I don't understand people complaining about the 1800$ destiny took home... With all the time he does planning and casting and closing out the tournament I guess he spent roughly 2 weeks on this tournament, and then his left with about the same amount I earn while working at a supermarket for 2 weeks... After all he took a risk and it went extremely well, then 1800$ is not much.
Snute will be the new Stephano in 2013! Mark my words
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 11 2014 19:45 GMT
#272
Nice to hear that there will be a Destiny II. Hopefully I will be able to catch more of the second tournament. Sounds like this one was a success.
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 19:51:37
August 11 2014 19:45 GMT
#273
On August 12 2014 04:40 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 04:09 StatixEx wrote:
was the best tournie of all the weekend considering what you were up against, the dragon invit, proleague, redbull and some other highly watched streams and weeklys. Was great Destiny, id be more than happy to donate a couple hundred dollars for the next one and i expect absolutely nothing back . .except for the tournie itself and a rotterdam/destiny casting final



TotalBiscuit is by far one of the best people in the SC2 scene currently and we owe him a lot of thanks.
Destiny II will be great and I can't wait for it.


i simply dont agree

Just out of curiosity. Why not?


Because people like to bash others to make themselves feel better but don't want to put in the effort to creating somethjng, even if it's as small and simple as constructive criticism.

, I just figured someone as prominent and simply good as TB would make a killing casting tournaments.


I could, but I wanted to help.

As for KeSPAs attitude and indeed the "we are helping you" attitude in general. This is not 2011. I remember having a conversation back then with some players who were at their peak, wanted to charge tournaments appearance fees because of the number of additional viewers they'd bring in through their attendance. At the time that didn't seem too unreasonable, they were stars, they were adding value to the event.

This is 2014. SC2 in Korea is on life-support. Teams have folded left and right. Proleague shows potential but still isn't bringing in anywhere near enough viewers to be sustainable. GOM supposedly has severe financial problems. Korea has the largest talent pool yet the smallest number of events to play in on their home turf. This is NOT the time to be breaking out the "we're helping you" attitude. No, we're all helping each other. Quit the insular nonsense. Not trusting Destiny due to the tournament not being an established brand is entirely reasonable. Pulling the "we're helping you" attitude isn't. At this point we should be all helping each other as much as possible, we cannot afford these politics in our game.
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RayBeans
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany331 Posts
August 11 2014 19:49 GMT
#274
You are an esports idol. Thanks for everything you do.
eSports with friends & HSV esports e.V. - Hamburg!
Arawyn
Profile Joined May 2010
United States191 Posts
August 11 2014 19:51 GMT
#275
On August 12 2014 03:38 meshfusion wrote:
tbh 1800$ is not even that much, Destiny deserves and should get way more money than only 1800.

and lastly, VERY POOR decision for Kespa to not let their players. Destiny's tournament had WAY more people watching than any day on Proleague (except the final which peaked at 33k or so, a tiny bit more than Destiny's final)
so it's actually safe to assume that Destiny + Casters + Players invited fan base is actually already larger than Proleague.
Some Proleague days it's as low as 5k, when it's "good" it's barely above 10k. So fuck yeah! Congrats to Destiny for pulling such good numbers and I hope the next one will have even more


Are you aware that the majority of Proleague viewership is not from Twitch? The chinese stream pulled 100k during the finals in addition to Korean viewers.

As for Destiny's tournament, I would have definitely loved seeing Kespa players. Lack of good players was the main reason I didn't tune in for most of it. Also the unfortunate roflstomp in the finals, but that was to be expected with the way brackets worked out.
Skaya
Profile Joined August 2010
United States126 Posts
August 11 2014 19:55 GMT
#276
I really enjoyed the tournament (on the days I was able to watch, damn you sleep schedule!) and really enjoyed the casting style and music.

To everyone questioning the $1800, that is serious chump change based on amount of work involved and relative pay in this space. I'm almost disappointed Destiny didn't make more.

Looking forward to the next one Destiny, thanks for all your hard work.
F1nal
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany216 Posts
August 11 2014 19:55 GMT
#277
On August 12 2014 04:21 Byyk wrote:
Destiny, I am impressed. From villain of SC2 scene to the savior. Really nice work. When I remember:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4FTflKqQ58
And now after all that time, like twist... Keep with good work, it is appreciated.


WTF :D Dj Wheat in the end :D
<3 DeMusliM | MKP | Maru | Bomber | Flash | Stephano |
Schickysc
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada380 Posts
August 11 2014 19:58 GMT
#278
Wasn't a big fan of you before, maybe because I didn't understand you or maybe you have changed. I viewed your tournament quite a few times, and I have to say you did an amazing job.

I have to say I LOVE your transparency in everything. Kudos in trying to set a standard and I look forward to your next tournament, which I will undoubtedly financially support.
Shoot for the Moon, Find a Star
bommie
Profile Joined May 2014
United States3 Posts
August 11 2014 20:01 GMT
#279
I say, forget KeSPA. I'd like to see you develop the Destiny-tournament brand as a/the go-to tournament for non-KeSPA players. Have it become a great way for foreigners to play on a big online stage and establish themselves against other proven players. How many people knew Adonminus before this tournament? I haven't seen much of Apocalypse, and I think seeing Kane come out on top of his group was a pleasant surprise. We all love the KeSPA Koreans (self included). They guarantee the absolute top-level play. But if they join the tournament, Destiny will become just another stop along the way, like all the other tournaments (and I don't know about you guys, but I've had trouble keeping up with ALL the SC2 events this year, especially in the past few months).

It's very clear that Destiny wants to establish his tournament as a reputable brand within SC2, but also very clear is his intention to grow the competitive SC2 scene as a whole. Having a popular platform from which guys like Adonminus, JonSnow, Apocalypse, etc. can play against some top level pros will be a boon for the foreign community, and SC2 in general. These guys normally only get exposure during challenger and RO32 WCS, and if/when they're eliminated, aren't heard from or seen again until the next season.

Obviously, it's your tournament and a viewer like me has no reputation or financial implications on the line here, nor do I have to worry about viewership numbers (which, as you've stated, would be boosted significantly if KeSPA players were involved). Clearly the decision is up to you.

If anything, I'd like to see you close the tournament to KeSPA players indefinitely, until it gets big enough where KeSPA is asking you to allow their players to enter. How satisfying would THAT be?
Rikudou
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany151 Posts
August 11 2014 20:01 GMT
#280
as a european this is a pain in the ass to say, but please start the tournament later because the koreans get really really tired in the semi finals/ grand final and that hurts the quality of the games (like Innovations 3 proxy raxes in a row)
but that's your decision (it's just a idea) !
gl hf in the next tournament sir!
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