EPTOn August 12 2014 03:00 TommyP wrote:
Only criticism I have is DRG's lack of invite
Only criticism I have is DRG's lack of invite
I think DRG had Red Bull Battleground Global conflict in schedule
"Destiny I" Financial Report - Page 14
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argonautdice
Canada2720 Posts
I think DRG had Red Bull Battleground Global conflict in schedule | ||
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Byyk
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And now after all that time, like twist... Keep with good work, it is appreciated. | ||
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wmb
Sweden282 Posts
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Jornada
United States223 Posts
As far as KeSPA goes... I would hold off from inviting their players for now. My reason is let yourself get established with this event really well. If you can run this even strong without KeSPA players than you are already ahead of the game. Once you have solid foundation and you want to have KeSPA players play in your event your success will give you more punching power to have your demands met as well. Overall Great Job. | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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blacksheepwall
China1530 Posts
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
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Cheeseling
Ukraine132 Posts
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Cheeseling
Ukraine132 Posts
On August 12 2014 04:21 Byyk wrote: Destiny, I am impressed. From villain of SC2 scene to the savior. Really nice work. When I remember: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4FTflKqQ58 And now after all that time, like twist... Keep with good work, it is appreciated. You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. -Winston Churchill | ||
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Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
On August 12 2014 04:09 StatixEx wrote: was the best tournie of all the weekend considering what you were up against, the dragon invit, proleague, redbull and some other highly watched streams and weeklys. Was great Destiny, id be more than happy to donate a couple hundred dollars for the next one and i expect absolutely nothing back . .except for the tournie itself and a rotterdam/destiny casting final i simply dont agree Just out of curiosity. Why not? | ||
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badeanden
Norway56 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Because people like to bash others to make themselves feel better but don't want to put in the effort to creating somethjng, even if it's as small and simple as constructive criticism. , I just figured someone as prominent and simply good as TB would make a killing casting tournaments. I could, but I wanted to help. As for KeSPAs attitude and indeed the "we are helping you" attitude in general. This is not 2011. I remember having a conversation back then with some players who were at their peak, wanted to charge tournaments appearance fees because of the number of additional viewers they'd bring in through their attendance. At the time that didn't seem too unreasonable, they were stars, they were adding value to the event. This is 2014. SC2 in Korea is on life-support. Teams have folded left and right. Proleague shows potential but still isn't bringing in anywhere near enough viewers to be sustainable. GOM supposedly has severe financial problems. Korea has the largest talent pool yet the smallest number of events to play in on their home turf. This is NOT the time to be breaking out the "we're helping you" attitude. No, we're all helping each other. Quit the insular nonsense. Not trusting Destiny due to the tournament not being an established brand is entirely reasonable. Pulling the "we're helping you" attitude isn't. At this point we should be all helping each other as much as possible, we cannot afford these politics in our game. | ||
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RayBeans
Germany331 Posts
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Arawyn
United States191 Posts
On August 12 2014 03:38 meshfusion wrote: tbh 1800$ is not even that much, Destiny deserves and should get way more money than only 1800. and lastly, VERY POOR decision for Kespa to not let their players. Destiny's tournament had WAY more people watching than any day on Proleague (except the final which peaked at 33k or so, a tiny bit more than Destiny's final) so it's actually safe to assume that Destiny + Casters + Players invited fan base is actually already larger than Proleague. Some Proleague days it's as low as 5k, when it's "good" it's barely above 10k. So fuck yeah! Congrats to Destiny for pulling such good numbers and I hope the next one will have even more Are you aware that the majority of Proleague viewership is not from Twitch? The chinese stream pulled 100k during the finals in addition to Korean viewers. As for Destiny's tournament, I would have definitely loved seeing Kespa players. Lack of good players was the main reason I didn't tune in for most of it. Also the unfortunate roflstomp in the finals, but that was to be expected with the way brackets worked out. | ||
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Skaya
United States126 Posts
To everyone questioning the $1800, that is serious chump change based on amount of work involved and relative pay in this space. I'm almost disappointed Destiny didn't make more. Looking forward to the next one Destiny, thanks for all your hard work. | ||
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F1nal
Germany216 Posts
On August 12 2014 04:21 Byyk wrote: Destiny, I am impressed. From villain of SC2 scene to the savior. Really nice work. When I remember: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4FTflKqQ58 And now after all that time, like twist... Keep with good work, it is appreciated. WTF :D Dj Wheat in the end :D | ||
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Schickysc
Canada380 Posts
I have to say I LOVE your transparency in everything. Kudos in trying to set a standard and I look forward to your next tournament, which I will undoubtedly financially support. | ||
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bommie
United States3 Posts
It's very clear that Destiny wants to establish his tournament as a reputable brand within SC2, but also very clear is his intention to grow the competitive SC2 scene as a whole. Having a popular platform from which guys like Adonminus, JonSnow, Apocalypse, etc. can play against some top level pros will be a boon for the foreign community, and SC2 in general. These guys normally only get exposure during challenger and RO32 WCS, and if/when they're eliminated, aren't heard from or seen again until the next season. Obviously, it's your tournament and a viewer like me has no reputation or financial implications on the line here, nor do I have to worry about viewership numbers (which, as you've stated, would be boosted significantly if KeSPA players were involved). Clearly the decision is up to you. If anything, I'd like to see you close the tournament to KeSPA players indefinitely, until it gets big enough where KeSPA is asking you to allow their players to enter. How satisfying would THAT be? | ||
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Rikudou
Germany151 Posts
but that's your decision (it's just a idea) ! gl hf in the next tournament sir! | ||
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