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[SPL] 2014 Grand Finals Recap

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[SPL] 2014 Grand Finals Recap

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August 9th, 2014 17:29 GMT


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Grand Finals Preview | Grand Finals Strategy | Live Report Thread
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[image loading]Proleague Awards
[image loading]Best Ceremony: (P)Stork
[image loading]Best Rookie: (T)Maru
[image loading]Most Wins: (P)sOs, (P)herO



Clash of the Titans

Two Code S titles.

Three Code S silver medals.

One OSL trophy.

25 - 12 in matches and +29 in maps.

And all the world behind them.

After dominating for 8 months in Proleague, GSL, and Korea, SK Telecom T1 seemed destined to be crowned the greatest team in Starcraft 2. They topped the charts and were seeded as the number one team throughout the season. With 6 Code S players in their lineup and 1 more on the bench, their depth of talent was incomparable, inexhaustible, and seemingly insurmountable.

On the other hand, their great rivals, KT Rolster, were struggling. While Zest had won Code S Season 1, 3 of their 4 best players--Flash, Stats, TY--were stuck in Code A or Code B for the majority of 2014. In Round 4 of the regular season, they even failed to make the playoffs as they limped their way to the finish line. Against Jin Air in the semi finals, many considered them underdogs. Standing in front of the behemoth that was SK Telecom T1 in the Grand Finals, many considered them undeserving.

But as the teams stood there on the grandest of stages, on a floating island in the middle of the Han River, they were equals. Their records, their histories, their individual achievements meant nothing. All that mattered was four wins. Four wins would separate the Greatest from the forgotten, and four wins would reward a year's worth of practice, a year long dream.

The confidence that engulfed the SKT T1 roster was evident in PartinG's demeanor. As he grabbed the mic to say a few words, the crowd listened intently to the man known for his sharp tongue and sharper micro. When asked about his match against Flash, he beamed proudly. "I will beat him," he said, and his grin suggested that to beat Flash was to beat KT. Yet theirs was only one match, and Flash had nothing but trust in his allies.

The greatest collection of individual talents ever assembled stood on the left.

The most cohesive team in Korea stood on the right.

And the crusade of Champions against God and his angels began.


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[image loading](Z)Soulkey < Outboxer > (P)Stats
[image loading](P)PartinG < Merry Go Round >(T)Flash
[image loading](P)Rain< King Sejong Station > (P)Zest
[image loading](Z)Dark < Overgrowth > (Z)Action
[image loading](Z)soO < Habitation Station > (Z)Sleep
[image loading](P)Classic < Frost > (T)TY

Ace:
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The Grandest Stage

      (P)Stats vs (Z)Soulkey opened the series on Out Boxer. Following the recent zerg trend, Soulkey sent an early drone scout in attempt to block Stats' natural nexus. Stats denied it with little effort though and the drone scout allowed Soulkey to safely open three hatch and even a gas before spawning pool. Stats then took the initiative by hiding a stargate but got unlucky when a single zergling found its way into his base to scout the lack of tech there. Soulkey immediately put up blind spore crawlers, minimizing the damage he took from Stats' oracle. Both players transitioned into a standard game from there, with Stats adding a third base and heading for +2 and blink. Soulkey successfully ran around with his double upgraded zerglings, snatching a few probe kills and even catching two colossi as they rallied out, meanwhile transitioning to a few Swarmhosts back at home. Stats however managed to defend his third base against the swarmhosts, roaches, lings and corruptors and even established a fourth base to equal the base count. Soulkey then made an odd and perhaps game losing choice - he didn't add more Swarmhosts, didn't add infestors but instead morphed eleven brood lords to clear out Stats' third base. At the same time however, two zealots were cancelling his own fifth base, essentially putting a timer above Soulkey's head. The SKT zerg was forced to make a tough decision and decided to attempt an almost all in attack before too many tempests hit the field. With a mothership, a cloud of void rays, storm, colossi and blink stalkers, (P)Stats had little trouble holding the attack and from there simply steamrolled across the map, wiping out all of Soulkey's bases and his army in the process, drawing first blood for KT.

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      Perhaps the most anticipated match of the night, (T)Flash against (P)PartinG started off without any surprises. Standard openings from both ensured a macro game. PartinG opened with the same blink build he showed in his games against both CJ terrans, Bunny and Bbyong. Flash's reaper managed to get the crucial scout on PartinG's opening though, giving him ample time to prepare for it. Having his strategy choice revealed immediately, PartinG opted for a warp prism to keep Flash pinned back even longer, while teching to colossi and attempting to put down a third base. Flash however showed incredible preparation for his build. Four marines wandered across the map unscouted and arrived at PartinG's third perfectly in time to snipe the probe, then found their way into the natural, scouting PartinG's choice of followup tech. Now fully aware of PartinG's plans, Flash's mind was immediately made up - he would pull SCVs. A second starport followed by a ghost academy made his choice of strategy fairly obvious. PartinG attempted an attack before the additional production could kick in but his army was pushed back easily and the counterattack came instantly. With SCVs leading the charge, (T)Flash steamrolled his way into PartinG's natural after killing the third, demolishing his opponent's army and putting KT up 2-0.

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      At this point, the third match was all or nothing for SKT. If (P)Rain was to lose this game to (P)Zest, surely there would be no hope left. Rain opted for a little trickery to start it, hiding his stargate on the low ground next to his base on King Sejong Station. Zest meanwhile opened with a 1gate expand into stargate, taking little damage from Rain's oracle who then expanded himself. Both players realized the situation they were in and both started phoenix production. It seemed almost like a gentlemen's agreement when both decided to stop production at the same time and differentiated their tech paths - colossi for Zest, charge/templar for Rain. As is standard for the latter playstyle, Rain added a faster third base. This is where his true genius began to shine through however. Realizing his opponent's colossus transition very early, Rain resumed phoenix production and added a fleet beacon. Zest's phoenixes got caught out and completely erased from the map when he finally showed his hand. With a third base down for Rain, air control suddenly massively in his favor and tons of economic damage being done by his phoenixes, Zest was left with little choice but to all in. The early fleet beacon proved to be perfect planning as Rain's tempests eliminated Zest's colossi just in time before they could deal the damage necessary. (P)Rain crushed his opponent's army and secured the first win for SKT.

      (Z)Action and (Z)Dark squared off next on Overgrowth. Both players opened hatch first, but Action did so in slightly greedier fashion as he squeezed out a few extra drones and even a faster extractor. Action took the initiative by using his faster gas to rush out a lair and roach speed. Using that early tech advantage, he immediately took the gold base, knowing that it couldn't be threatened. Dark seemed to trail behind the entire game from there on, until (Z)Action finally broke him with his constant roach/hydra waves. Not even a full roach surround was enough to let Dark hold on and he was forced to surrender. KT were one map away from winning the finals.

      And who was it that had to carry SKT's hopes and dreams against (Z)Sleep? (Z)soO. The three time GSL runner-up who just recently lost their ace match against CJ. soO, who is known for choking on the biggest stage, decided to put it all on the line and copied a build that was used by Hydra against his teammate Soulkey on the same map. His semi-hidden extractor strategy was revealed by Sleep though, who smartly sacrificed his scouting overlord to attain that crucial information. With a wall being set up and a lair and roach warren starting for Sleep, there was no way for soO's mass speedling plans to work out. Instead, soO used his speedlings to deny Sleep from taking a third base while taking his own gold base and putting down a roach warren. All of this was but trickery however. soO never had any plans to play for a longer game, skipping his lair entirely in favor of mass unit production. A huge roach/ling attack was his strategy of choice and it crashed into Sleep right as he was upgrading and teching up. soO's overwhelming army supply was too much for the KT zerg to handle and (Z)soO did prevail, giving SKT fans hope again.

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      With the score now at 3-2 for KT Rolster, the burden of saving SKT was transferred to reigning but already dethroned GSL champion (P)Classic, whose task was simple: beat (T)TY in cross positions on Frost to bring the series to an ace match. In a cruel twist of fate, all of SKT's hopes turned to ashes as Classic opened nexus first - against TY's unscouted double proxy rax. Classic's probe scout let him down, TY's barrack perfectly placed just outside of watchtower vision. The first glimpse Classic got of his impending doom was when he saw SCVs being pulled from TY's main. At that point, a bunker was already being constructed in his natural. Forced to pull probes to block the ramp, nearly losing the zealot, Classic tried to micro his heart out but made one crucial mistake: his mothership core spawned in the natural and was immediately killed by marines. TY then forced himself up the ramp, eliminating the majority of Classic's probes in the process. With four bunkers in range of his nexus and marines constantly rallying right into the heart of his base, Classic's stalkers were never going to be enough to hold the attack. All of them died, as did the natural nexus and Classic's only gateway. Celebrating his victory, TY even started a command center in his opponent's base but it never finished as Classic typed out once his natural died. Denying the ace match with a stone cold strategy, (T)TY claimed the final victory of the season, grabbing the Proleague championship for KT Rolster.

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A Champion Crowned


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Not many believed it was possible, but by the end of the evening, everyone was convinced. KT had prepared better for their matches, and each of their wins was well deserved. After a season full of up and downs and a final few months full of doubts, they stood alone as kings of Korea. Amidst a frenzied crowd and casters hailing, the team tossed their coach in the air and you could hear the roar of champions. It was a title fished from the river, and a rival kicked into the stands. Tonight they celebrate, and tomorrow they practice for Code S. At least until the next season, KT are best KT.

For SKT T1, the heartbreak was palpable. As they sat in silence, watching their adversaries revel in applause, they had no one to blame but themselves. Rain and soO, the only original T1 players from Brood War, were the only ones that managed to put their team on the score board. Soulkey--signed from Woongjin Stars--, PartinG--signed from Startale--, Dark--signed from SlayerS--, and Classic--signed from STX SouL-- were the new faces of the most storied franchise in Starcraft, and they all failed. But their story of disappointment will be forgotten and their valiant two wins nothing more than footnotes to someone else's success. To their fans' chagrin, it was KT Rolster's.

Four wins, four players.

      A faithful servant.

            A restored God.

                  A KT Zerg.

                        A fearless warrior.

                              And a Telecoms' War was won.




Writers: Destructicon, lichter
Graphics: shiroiusagi
Photos: Proleague, Inven, Ethan Ahn, Twitter
Artwork: Blizzard
Editors: DarkLordOlli, lichter.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 09 2014 17:38 GMT
#2
:'( If only Classic didn't Nexus first. We could have had the most glorious ace match ever...
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 09 2014 17:38 GMT
#3
Obligatory KTKTKTKTKT
Awesome season of Proleague and amazing final, KT really looking good at the end after they were kind of disappointing in round 4.
Now its way too much time till the next season :/
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 09 2014 17:38 GMT
#4
RECAP HYPE
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 09 2014 17:39 GMT
#5
On August 10 2014 02:38 ZAiNs wrote:
:'( If only Classic didn't Nexus first. We could have had the most glorious ace match ever...


We need to start calling a 2rax in the deciding match of a finals "Mvp's balls" from now on.
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Ephemerality
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States203 Posts
August 09 2014 17:45 GMT
#6
On August 10 2014 02:39 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 02:38 ZAiNs wrote:
:'( If only Classic didn't Nexus first. We could have had the most glorious ace match ever...


We need to start calling a 2rax in the deciding match of a finals "Mvp's balls" from now on.


Damn I wish Taeja could win this finals, he just needs "Mvp's balls."
FIGHT APATHY... or don't
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 09 2014 17:45 GMT
#7
Damn nice read btw, loved the part about God and his angles
Got chills again remembering the games, KT indeed best KT <3
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
August 09 2014 17:46 GMT
#8
Well earned win KT, gratz. Also the ending graphic is wrong I think? Should be SK Telecom Proleague.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
August 09 2014 17:47 GMT
#9
On August 10 2014 02:39 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 02:38 ZAiNs wrote:
:'( If only Classic didn't Nexus first. We could have had the most glorious ace match ever...


We need to start calling a 2rax in the deciding match of a finals "Mvp's balls" from now on.



I still remember that game, but this needs to be used more often.
thepaz
Profile Joined June 2011
France31 Posts
August 09 2014 17:47 GMT
#10
Now time for a Flash Gsl!
Gratz to KT by the way
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
August 09 2014 17:50 GMT
#11
I woke up and actually rode these finals all the way to the end. 100% worth it.
Soke
Profile Joined September 2012
United States790 Posts
August 09 2014 17:50 GMT
#12
Terrans!
Djsoke
Sophisticado
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom42 Posts
August 09 2014 17:52 GMT
#13
Believed in KT Rolster. So happy that they won!!!!
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 17:55:39
August 09 2014 17:54 GMT
#14
At least Classic was in the team that won Proleauge last season (STX Soul)
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6174 Posts
August 09 2014 17:57 GMT
#15
GG KT

Best team
n_n
kisoso
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria105 Posts
August 09 2014 18:00 GMT
#16
SKT were soO cursed T_T, gg KT!!!
qotsager
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany585 Posts
August 09 2014 18:02 GMT
#17
haven't had this much fun with sc2 in a long time. should probably catch more of proleague next season.
***Official ABL Winner 2013***
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
August 09 2014 18:05 GMT
#18
On August 10 2014 03:02 qotsager wrote:
haven't had this much fun with sc2 in a long time. should probably catch more of proleague next season.

highly recommeded, mate
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 09 2014 18:06 GMT
#19
This season was so awesome and the Finals jus made it perfect. Really enjoyed everything today, great games, great crowd, great LR thread! SC2 is in really good place imo and it makes me very happy that it's getting there in Korea too .

Also Flash and Terrans in general are back!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
August 09 2014 18:07 GMT
#20
The true question is

Is this really coach Park band ?
SEKO SEKO SEKO
`sawyer
Profile Joined June 2014
210 Posts
August 09 2014 18:12 GMT
#21
Waow! That was fast, well done! KT officially best KT!
Nuka
Profile Joined July 2014
27 Posts
August 09 2014 18:23 GMT
#22
On August 10 2014 02:45 Ephemerality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 02:39 lichter wrote:
On August 10 2014 02:38 ZAiNs wrote:
:'( If only Classic didn't Nexus first. We could have had the most glorious ace match ever...


We need to start calling a 2rax in the deciding match of a finals "Mvp's balls" from now on.


Damn I wish Taeja could win this finals, he just needs "Mvp's balls."

AHAHAHAHHAH taeja win non foreign finals? Neverrrr...
Zest & herO
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
August 09 2014 18:33 GMT
#23
On August 10 2014 02:45 Ephemerality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 02:39 lichter wrote:
On August 10 2014 02:38 ZAiNs wrote:
:'( If only Classic didn't Nexus first. We could have had the most glorious ace match ever...


We need to start calling a 2rax in the deciding match of a finals "Mvp's balls" from now on.


Damn I wish Taeja could win this finals, he just needs "Mvp's balls."


There is only one guy who got the title Steelballs.

There is a lot of irony in SKT1 losing proleague finals to a bunker rush...
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
August 09 2014 18:37 GMT
#24
On August 10 2014 03:33 Zaphid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 02:45 Ephemerality wrote:
On August 10 2014 02:39 lichter wrote:
On August 10 2014 02:38 ZAiNs wrote:
:'( If only Classic didn't Nexus first. We could have had the most glorious ace match ever...


We need to start calling a 2rax in the deciding match of a finals "Mvp's balls" from now on.


Damn I wish Taeja could win this finals, he just needs "Mvp's balls."


There is only one guy who got the title Steelballs.

There is a lot of irony in SKT1 losing proleague finals to a bunker rush...

why is it ironic (sorry plz fill me in on some history)
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
August 09 2014 18:44 GMT
#25
Even though I was super upset that PartinG lost, it does kind of have a silver lining for me in a way. It would just feel a little...wrong for Flash to be on the losing end of a one-sided rivalry. After all, he is Flash, and it's good for the PartinG-Flash rivalry and for the SC2 scene as a whole for Flash to have that fearsome aura. It keeps things interesting.

So well played KT, it's a well earned victory, and regardless of who won, that was the funnest/most hype tournament since Blizzcon for me. I can't wait for next season; this seems to me to be the first big step of a new legacy and series of storylines in SC2. <3 Proleague.
Orr
Profile Joined February 2014
United States168 Posts
August 09 2014 19:00 GMT
#26
Nietzsche was wrong. God isn't dead.
Flash I Jaedong I herO I Best I Maru I Rogue
urasyupi2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States810 Posts
August 09 2014 19:01 GMT
#27
On August 10 2014 03:37 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 03:33 Zaphid wrote:
On August 10 2014 02:45 Ephemerality wrote:
On August 10 2014 02:39 lichter wrote:
On August 10 2014 02:38 ZAiNs wrote:
:'( If only Classic didn't Nexus first. We could have had the most glorious ace match ever...


We need to start calling a 2rax in the deciding match of a finals "Mvp's balls" from now on.


Damn I wish Taeja could win this finals, he just needs "Mvp's balls."


There is only one guy who got the title Steelballs.

There is a lot of irony in SKT1 losing proleague finals to a bunker rush...

why is it ironic (sorry plz fill me in on some history)

long time ago boxer bunker rushed yellow in a finals
all 3 games

but yeah, we should call 2rax in the deciding match MVP's balls
hemeh
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
August 09 2014 19:21 GMT
#28
I congratulate KT on their victory, but it was more SKT mistakes than KT brilliance that gave it to them. "Let me get 2 collossus for free, and then just not death push. "Let me make broodlords against Protoss with 8 voidrays. "Im gonna go nexus first against a Kespa Terran." You let me down boys, you let me down
If all men were created equal there would be no reason to declare it.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
August 09 2014 19:30 GMT
#29
Great win for KT
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Adept
Profile Joined December 2009
United States472 Posts
August 09 2014 19:36 GMT
#30
SO glad I actually stayed up for that, even if I only got a few hours of sleep afterwards. 100% worth it, that was incredible and I can't wait for the next season of Proleague!! And of course, congrats to KT! :D
"HSC casting is essentially an LR thread read aloud." -ThomasjServo
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iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
August 09 2014 19:38 GMT
#31
Is there any way to watch the finals in full? Not devided in sets. I want to watch it in its full glory (skipping the KT loses ofc)
Woo Jung Ho
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
August 09 2014 19:43 GMT
#32
KT BEST KT!
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 19:46:59
August 09 2014 19:46 GMT
#33
On August 10 2014 03:37 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 03:33 Zaphid wrote:
On August 10 2014 02:45 Ephemerality wrote:
On August 10 2014 02:39 lichter wrote:
On August 10 2014 02:38 ZAiNs wrote:
:'( If only Classic didn't Nexus first. We could have had the most glorious ace match ever...


We need to start calling a 2rax in the deciding match of a finals "Mvp's balls" from now on.


Damn I wish Taeja could win this finals, he just needs "Mvp's balls."


There is only one guy who got the title Steelballs.

There is a lot of irony in SKT1 losing proleague finals to a bunker rush...

why is it ironic (sorry plz fill me in on some history)

SKT1 Terrans had a history of using bunker rushes in high stakes matches in BW. Boxer invented the strat and he led SKT1 to quite a few proleague championships as a player and a coach. There was a game where Fantasy bunker rushed Jaedong in proleague finals when their rivalry was the biggest thing in the scene.

Jaedong retaliated a week later:
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
August 09 2014 19:50 GMT
#34
or in the 2012-13 SPL semi-finals when Fantasy 2-raxed Classic (STX at the time) and there was even a gif of Boxer nodding in excitement like they'd won the game and then Classic held it.

That was also in game 6...
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
August 09 2014 19:53 GMT
#35
Better team won! Gratz KT
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
688 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 20:04:54
August 09 2014 20:00 GMT
#36
omg I'm so disconsolate somebody save me T_T

Flash game was great, Rain game was great, other games felt meh. soulkey and classic in particular broke my heart

Being a Rain fan since his OSL win is hard
Jung Yoon Jong fighting, even after retirement! Feel better soon.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
August 09 2014 20:07 GMT
#37
K T K T K T K T K T
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 09 2014 20:09 GMT
#38
On August 10 2014 04:21 LongShot27 wrote:
I congratulate KT on their victory, but it was more SKT mistakes than KT brilliance that gave it to them. "Let me get 2 collossus for free, and then just not death push. "Let me make broodlords against Protoss with 8 voidrays. "Im gonna go nexus first against a Kespa Terran." You let me down boys, you let me down

You're really selling Stats short, Soulkey played well, it's just that Stats played even better.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 09 2014 20:15 GMT
#39
What was the viewer count like?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
mkkillah
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands12 Posts
August 09 2014 20:16 GMT
#40
Why arent the vods up?
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
August 09 2014 20:33 GMT
#41
On August 10 2014 05:09 ZAiNs wrote:
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On August 10 2014 04:21 LongShot27 wrote:
I congratulate KT on their victory, but it was more SKT mistakes than KT brilliance that gave it to them. "Let me get 2 collossus for free, and then just not death push. "Let me make broodlords against Protoss with 8 voidrays. "Im gonna go nexus first against a Kespa Terran." You let me down boys, you let me down

You're really selling Stats short, Soulkey played well, it's just that Stats played even better.

not really. i am a stats fan but he should've lost after that terrible midgame. soulkey wasn't at a massive advantage by any means, but he had a solid lead and then suicided all his shit at the protoss' front door. i think he over estimated his lead and just went for it. he lost that game a lot more than stats won it.
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Frankenberry
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark302 Posts
August 09 2014 20:33 GMT
#42
On August 10 2014 05:15 darthfoley wrote:
What was the viewer count like?


Around 32.000+ It was beautiful show with the upset winner! ^^
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
August 09 2014 20:37 GMT
#43
On August 10 2014 05:33 Frankenberry wrote:
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On August 10 2014 05:15 darthfoley wrote:
What was the viewer count like?


Around 32.000+ It was beautiful show with the upset winner! ^^


+ 130k on the Chinese stream lol
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 20:39:56
August 09 2014 20:39 GMT
#44
On August 10 2014 05:15 darthfoley wrote:
What was the viewer count like?

Pretty good. I think it was 100k across all streams?
edit: ^to above, there were actually 130000 people watching from china? O.o
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
August 09 2014 20:45 GMT
#45
On August 10 2014 05:39 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 05:15 darthfoley wrote:
What was the viewer count like?

Pretty good. I think it was 100k across all streams?
edit: ^to above, there were actually 130000 people watching from china? O.o

Yes, in total around 200k
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GwubbiL
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland18 Posts
August 09 2014 20:48 GMT
#46
On August 10 2014 05:45 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 05:39 The_Templar wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:15 darthfoley wrote:
What was the viewer count like?

Pretty good. I think it was 100k across all streams?
edit: ^to above, there were actually 130000 people watching from china? O.o

Yes, in total around 200k


Wow. If that's true, I'd like to hear the number of Korean viewers as well. If possible.

(Damn I missed the whole event, so sad.)
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 21:07:18
August 09 2014 21:07 GMT
#47
The better team won. KT did me proud. Too bad I didn't do any bets lol. Also, KT was quite calculated in all their games, it was great to see. Action's strategy, Flash's timing, TY reading Classic like a book etc... Let's not forget Stats' positioning though the game wasn't as impressive as the other ones imo. Good PL finals overall.

On August 10 2014 05:45 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 05:39 The_Templar wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:15 darthfoley wrote:
What was the viewer count like?

Pretty good. I think it was 100k across all streams?
edit: ^to above, there were actually 130000 people watching from china? O.o

Yes, in total around 200k

Where did you get 200k from? 130k chinese, 30k on twitch stream but 40k from korean? Good turnout overall though.
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DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
August 09 2014 21:09 GMT
#48
On August 10 2014 05:16 mkkillah wrote:
Why arent the vods up?



this.. whats the deal where the vods
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 21:23:38
August 09 2014 21:21 GMT
#49
On August 10 2014 06:07 BigFan wrote:
The better team won. KT did me proud. Too bad I didn't do any bets lol. Also, KT was quite calculated in all their games, it was great to see. Action's strategy, Flash's timing, TY reading Classic like a book etc... Let's not forget Stats' positioning though the game wasn't as impressive as the other ones imo. Good PL finals overall.

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 05:45 Lorning wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:39 The_Templar wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:15 darthfoley wrote:
What was the viewer count like?

Pretty good. I think it was 100k across all streams?
edit: ^to above, there were actually 130000 people watching from china? O.o

Yes, in total around 200k

Where did you get 200k from? 130k chinese, 30k on twitch stream but 40k from korean? Good turnout overall though.

Hmm maybe it was a bit less, but I'm sure it was close when it peaked

Here's screenshot of some of the streams. From Ethan Ahn
[image loading]
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disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
August 09 2014 21:30 GMT
#50
Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.
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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
August 09 2014 22:03 GMT
#51
On August 10 2014 05:09 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 04:21 LongShot27 wrote:
I congratulate KT on their victory, but it was more SKT mistakes than KT brilliance that gave it to them. "Let me get 2 collossus for free, and then just not death push. "Let me make broodlords against Protoss with 8 voidrays. "Im gonna go nexus first against a Kespa Terran." You let me down boys, you let me down

You're really selling Stats short, Soulkey played well, it's just that Stats played even better.


Stats played an awful game, Soulkey played a disastrous game
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Profile Joined September 2003
France1317 Posts
August 09 2014 22:17 GMT
#52
Excellent write up, as someone who didn't have time to watch all, thank you !

Happy for KT, i'm always happy to see HOT486 smiling, and he looks to be standing behind Flash !
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
August 09 2014 22:22 GMT
#53
Wonderful Finals, even though SKT lost. I can't wait for Proleague 2015!!!
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2970 Posts
August 09 2014 22:44 GMT
#54
On August 10 2014 06:30 disciple wrote:
Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.


Whatever you got to say to console yourself.
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
August 09 2014 22:45 GMT
#55
Beautiful :') I've been smiling all day :D

Plus now I'm so proud of my new red hair
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
August 09 2014 23:18 GMT
#56
On August 10 2014 02:47 thepaz wrote:
Now time for a Flash Gsl!
Gratz to KT by the way

lets hope.
He won't be able to dominate GSL as he dominated Parting.
Knowing what Parting would do even to the SECOND was really more then impressive. It was godlike, like some devine power told him what Partings next move would be exactly.
He was so always one step ahead, my mouth stood open and i forgot to trash/spampost in the LR-Thread.
He won't be able to prepare for his opponents in GSL like that
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
August 09 2014 23:23 GMT
#57
On August 10 2014 07:03 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 05:09 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 10 2014 04:21 LongShot27 wrote:
I congratulate KT on their victory, but it was more SKT mistakes than KT brilliance that gave it to them. "Let me get 2 collossus for free, and then just not death push. "Let me make broodlords against Protoss with 8 voidrays. "Im gonna go nexus first against a Kespa Terran." You let me down boys, you let me down

You're really selling Stats short, Soulkey played well, it's just that Stats played even better.


Stats played an awful game, Soulkey played a disastrous game

lol wut? like srlsy?

he threw 2 colossi which was sooo dumb but maybe that was the pressure.
He shouldn't have thrown away the zealots to kill the 3rd of SK, but hiding the mothership and then roll over the zerg army that had no detection was genius and well prepared, he did not try to hold the 3rd like many would have and so on...
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
August 09 2014 23:25 GMT
#58
On August 10 2014 06:30 disciple wrote:
Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.


High levels of sodium.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10211 Posts
August 09 2014 23:39 GMT
#59
YES YES YES !!!! KT HWAITING!
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
August 10 2014 00:10 GMT
#60
KT clearly best KT. Now all those silly SKT fans can accept it.

This makes Prime second best KT since they beat SKT in round 4 round robin.
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
August 10 2014 00:22 GMT
#61
This is among my favorite recaps I've ever read on TL, very well done!
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Madars
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia166 Posts
August 10 2014 00:34 GMT
#62
The Godly photo is Godly
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 10 2014 00:42 GMT
#63
On August 10 2014 06:21 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 06:07 BigFan wrote:
The better team won. KT did me proud. Too bad I didn't do any bets lol. Also, KT was quite calculated in all their games, it was great to see. Action's strategy, Flash's timing, TY reading Classic like a book etc... Let's not forget Stats' positioning though the game wasn't as impressive as the other ones imo. Good PL finals overall.

On August 10 2014 05:45 Lorning wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:39 The_Templar wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:15 darthfoley wrote:
What was the viewer count like?

Pretty good. I think it was 100k across all streams?
edit: ^to above, there were actually 130000 people watching from china? O.o

Yes, in total around 200k

Where did you get 200k from? 130k chinese, 30k on twitch stream but 40k from korean? Good turnout overall though.

Hmm maybe it was a bit less, but I'm sure it was close when it peaked

Here's screenshot of some of the streams. From Ethan Ahn
[image loading]

hmm fair enough ^^
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Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
August 10 2014 00:44 GMT
#64
gj Flash
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 10 2014 00:46 GMT
#65
On August 10 2014 06:21 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 06:07 BigFan wrote:
The better team won. KT did me proud. Too bad I didn't do any bets lol. Also, KT was quite calculated in all their games, it was great to see. Action's strategy, Flash's timing, TY reading Classic like a book etc... Let's not forget Stats' positioning though the game wasn't as impressive as the other ones imo. Good PL finals overall.

On August 10 2014 05:45 Lorning wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:39 The_Templar wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:15 darthfoley wrote:
What was the viewer count like?

Pretty good. I think it was 100k across all streams?
edit: ^to above, there were actually 130000 people watching from china? O.o

Yes, in total around 200k

Where did you get 200k from? 130k chinese, 30k on twitch stream but 40k from korean? Good turnout overall though.

Hmm maybe it was a bit less, but I'm sure it was close when it peaked

Here's screenshot of some of the streams. From Ethan Ahn
[image loading]

Those are the peaks then? Impressive :o
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 01:06:27
August 10 2014 01:05 GMT
#66
Oh dammit ;/
Well, Classic won Proleague for STX SouL, lost for SKT T1.
Balance is restored.

Grats, KT, it was a nice ride.

On August 10 2014 06:30 disciple wrote:
Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.


Awe.
Time to rise again.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 10 2014 01:05 GMT
#67
This was a great finals. Because KT won.
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Thyrym
Profile Joined December 2013
89 Posts
August 10 2014 01:15 GMT
#68
On August 10 2014 09:46 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 06:21 Lorning wrote:
On August 10 2014 06:07 BigFan wrote:
The better team won. KT did me proud. Too bad I didn't do any bets lol. Also, KT was quite calculated in all their games, it was great to see. Action's strategy, Flash's timing, TY reading Classic like a book etc... Let's not forget Stats' positioning though the game wasn't as impressive as the other ones imo. Good PL finals overall.

On August 10 2014 05:45 Lorning wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:39 The_Templar wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:15 darthfoley wrote:
What was the viewer count like?

Pretty good. I think it was 100k across all streams?
edit: ^to above, there were actually 130000 people watching from china? O.o

Yes, in total around 200k

Where did you get 200k from? 130k chinese, 30k on twitch stream but 40k from korean? Good turnout overall though.

Hmm maybe it was a bit less, but I'm sure it was close when it peaked

Here's screenshot of some of the streams. From Ethan Ahn
[image loading]

Those are the peaks then? Impressive :o


Was not on peak, this was before the games started, if the clock doesn't trick me

i think 20:45(KST) the games had no started yet, im not sure thou!
yubo56
Profile Joined May 2014
688 Posts
August 10 2014 01:21 GMT
#69
On August 10 2014 10:05 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Oh dammit ;/
Well, Classic won Proleague for STX SouL, lost for SKT T1.
Balance is restored.

Grats, KT, it was a nice ride.

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 06:30 disciple wrote:
Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.


Awe.
Time to rise again.


Even more maddening, Classic held a proxy 2 rax in game 6 of proleague playoffs during his time on STX, against SKT. Oh the irony.

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MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
August 10 2014 01:36 GMT
#70
On August 10 2014 08:23 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 07:03 LongShot27 wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:09 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 10 2014 04:21 LongShot27 wrote:
I congratulate KT on their victory, but it was more SKT mistakes than KT brilliance that gave it to them. "Let me get 2 collossus for free, and then just not death push. "Let me make broodlords against Protoss with 8 voidrays. "Im gonna go nexus first against a Kespa Terran." You let me down boys, you let me down

You're really selling Stats short, Soulkey played well, it's just that Stats played even better.


Stats played an awful game, Soulkey played a disastrous game

lol wut? like srlsy?

he threw 2 colossi which was sooo dumb but maybe that was the pressure.
He shouldn't have thrown away the zealots to kill the 3rd of SK, but hiding the mothership and then roll over the zerg army that had no detection was genius and well prepared, he did not try to hold the 3rd like many would have and so on...

Stats GAVE UP his 3rd to buy time for more time for more Tempests to crush Soulkey's Brood Lords, so sacking the 3rd was intentional
Miss_Foxy
Profile Joined March 2012
Singapore109 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 01:48:58
August 10 2014 01:42 GMT
#71
This has to be one of the most fun i've had while watching a tournament in a while.

PS: Reached 2nd most watched stream on Twitch during the Flash vs Parting match, with 33,000 peak on the Twitch streams.
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 10 2014 01:42 GMT
#72
Other than losing those two colossus, Stats played extremely well.
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DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
August 10 2014 02:05 GMT
#73
vods pls !! link pls
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
August 10 2014 02:29 GMT
#74
On August 10 2014 10:36 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 08:23 Rollora wrote:
On August 10 2014 07:03 LongShot27 wrote:
On August 10 2014 05:09 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 10 2014 04:21 LongShot27 wrote:
I congratulate KT on their victory, but it was more SKT mistakes than KT brilliance that gave it to them. "Let me get 2 collossus for free, and then just not death push. "Let me make broodlords against Protoss with 8 voidrays. "Im gonna go nexus first against a Kespa Terran." You let me down boys, you let me down

You're really selling Stats short, Soulkey played well, it's just that Stats played even better.


Stats played an awful game, Soulkey played a disastrous game

lol wut? like srlsy?

he threw 2 colossi which was sooo dumb but maybe that was the pressure.
He shouldn't have thrown away the zealots to kill the 3rd of SK, but hiding the mothership and then roll over the zerg army that had no detection was genius and well prepared, he did not try to hold the 3rd like many would have and so on...

Stats GAVE UP his 3rd to buy time for more time for more Tempests to crush Soulkey's Brood Lords, so sacking the 3rd was intentional


Actually he gave it up because it was nearly mined out and he was already taking another base. It was kind of a lure, but more of an "I dont need this"
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zenkicker
Profile Joined December 2008
257 Posts
August 10 2014 02:42 GMT
#75
Kinda anti climactic finish but great strategy nonetheless.

I really can't accept that Classic would play a greedy build on a match set.

It's like Spurs beating Heat once again.
I you cant beat them, join them.
NihilisticGod
Profile Joined March 2011
Northern Ireland174 Posts
August 10 2014 03:35 GMT
#76
Great set of games!

Though it's clear SKT1 lost because they decided to use only 2 races, missing out on terror of terran was a mistake.
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elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
August 10 2014 03:41 GMT
#77
They should have fielded a Terran, there should be (T)FanTaSy and FUCK they were just too confident.
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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
August 10 2014 03:58 GMT
#78
On August 10 2014 06:30 disciple wrote:
Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.

make sure you pm me when SKT wins something. And by SKT wins I don't mean mercs from the fallen teams like Classic and Soulkey or Soo's kong-fu
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quadrob
Profile Joined June 2014
16 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 04:10:00
August 10 2014 04:08 GMT
#79
On August 10 2014 12:41 elmerpogs wrote:
They should have fielded a Terran, there should be (T)FanTaSy and FUCK they were just too confident.


Exactly what I thought too... majority of their games they seem like they didn't prepare anything new at all. While KT looked like they practiced and studied their opponent's tendencies and countered it with a strategy for each game. The 2 games SKT1 won were mirror matches too.
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
August 10 2014 04:14 GMT
#80
On August 10 2014 12:58 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 06:30 disciple wrote:
Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.

make sure you pm me when SKT wins something. And by SKT wins I don't mean mercs from the fallen teams like Classic and Soulkey or Soo's kong-fu

What in the hell do you mean mercs? Liquid HerO was a merc for IM, ST Life was a merc for IM, but Soulkey and Classic are all actual SKT GUYS, and soO of all ppl (wtf?) there is no such thing as an SKT WINS means not won by someone, if its won, then its won, IF IM won PL with Liquid HerO, it is still an IM win, it doesn't matter, your logic man
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
August 10 2014 04:18 GMT
#81
I think the lack of televised matches for SKT as a team (sure some played in the GSL) was a huge factor. Their first place after regular season proved to be a double-edged sword, last time they were in an adrenaline fight that matters is 2/3rds of a month earlier.
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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 04:25:44
August 10 2014 04:22 GMT
#82
On August 10 2014 13:14 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 12:58 juvenal wrote:
On August 10 2014 06:30 disciple wrote:
Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.

make sure you pm me when SKT wins something. And by SKT wins I don't mean mercs from the fallen teams like Classic and Soulkey or Soo's kong-fu

What in the hell do you mean mercs? Liquid HerO was a merc for IM, ST Life was a merc for IM, but Soulkey and Classic are all actual SKT GUYS, and soO of all ppl (wtf?) there is no such thing as an SKT WINS means not won by someone, if its won, then its won, IF IM won PL with Liquid HerO, it is still an IM win, it doesn't matter, your logic man

was a standard trolling, calm down. KT has TY too, although the core is still from BW times. And believe me I miss the Bisu/Best/Fanta/and even Hyuk version of SKT no less than you or any other old fan. Those were the times. Now SKT just doesn't feel SKTish, just ask BisuDagger.
ps: soo is 100% SKT of course, it's just his second places that's sad. I wish him a cup sooner rather than later.
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blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
August 10 2014 04:35 GMT
#83
Great write-up.

Can't wait for VODs to relive it.
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MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
August 10 2014 04:36 GMT
#84
On August 10 2014 13:22 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 13:14 MiniFotToss wrote:
On August 10 2014 12:58 juvenal wrote:
On August 10 2014 06:30 disciple wrote:
Made sure its not April 1st when I checked the results this morning ,but lol KT won something. Much love to my fellow SKT fans, now and forever we are the best.

make sure you pm me when SKT wins something. And by SKT wins I don't mean mercs from the fallen teams like Classic and Soulkey or Soo's kong-fu

What in the hell do you mean mercs? Liquid HerO was a merc for IM, ST Life was a merc for IM, but Soulkey and Classic are all actual SKT GUYS, and soO of all ppl (wtf?) there is no such thing as an SKT WINS means not won by someone, if its won, then its won, IF IM won PL with Liquid HerO, it is still an IM win, it doesn't matter, your logic man

was a standard trolling, calm down. KT has TY too, although the core is still from BW times. And believe me I miss the Bisu/Best/Fanta/and even Hyuk version of SKT no less than you or any other old fan. Those were the times. Now SKT just doesn't feel SKTish, just ask BisuDagger.
ps: soo is 100% SKT of course, it's just his second places that's sad. I wish him a cup sooner rather than later.

LOL my bad!!!!! yeah, old SKT was the better SKT, but still SKT is still one of the best, but just doesnt feel like the old days, i hear ya
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
August 10 2014 04:37 GMT
#85
On August 10 2014 13:18 juvenal wrote:
I think the lack of televised matches for SKT as a team (sure some played in the GSL) was a huge factor. Their first place after regular season proved to be a double-edged sword, last time they were in an adrenaline fight that matters is 2/3rds of a month earlier.

I assume you mean lack of televised matches as in lack of material for SKT to study, right?
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
August 10 2014 04:51 GMT
#86
I've lost 2% of my 100% respect to SKT when they didn't field a terran on this finals.It also looked like they don't trust (T)FanTaSy anymore.
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
August 10 2014 05:08 GMT
#87
On August 10 2014 13:51 elmerpogs wrote:
I've lost 2% of my 100% respect to SKT when they didn't field a terran on this finals.It also looked like they don't trust (T)FanTaSy anymore.

i hear ya, but tbh, it seems reasonable, FanTaSy isn't doing well in anything, Proleague or Individual leagues. If you were the coach of SKT, and you had a team of 7 GSL code S players plus 2 Code A players, who would YOU FIELD? 6 of 7 Code S players? or put in the Code A player who cant even get out of Code A, who would you pick, if even Code S players weren't enough to take the win for SKT, then i seriously doubt that just becuz he has experience that FanTaSy will win for SKT.
The only player that we can say is not Top notch in SKTs lineup yesterday was Dark, but even he is a Ro16 Zerg in Season 2 GSL, so much better than FanTaSy. So yeah, even with SKT's best players they couldnt win, it was never the problem of not fielding FanTaSy (he wouldnt have won anyways), it was just one game anyways, KT Rolster just prepared better.
iloveoov doesnt care about what the viewers think, if everyone in the world says FanTaSy vs Flash ACE (if it happened), but iloveoov thinks they will lose if they send out FanTaSy, he wont send him out, because FanTaSy just isn't performing well at all
Bowzar
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden741 Posts
August 10 2014 05:46 GMT
#88
The hype was real but the games were just alright. I get why people went nuts for Flash but it was just a standard pre-storm SCV pull, I wanted to see Flash go into a macro game with Parting but that wouldnt have been a smart decision ofcourse. Soulkeys build made no sense, Dark didnt scout and the 2-rax killed the potential awesome Flash vs Rain ace match. Meh at least it wasnt a stomp.
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
August 10 2014 06:25 GMT
#89
On August 10 2014 03:07 Faust852 wrote:
The true question is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iaYpWi6nVI
Is this really coach Park band ?
SEKO SEKO SEKO

also

BADA BADA BADA BADA
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
August 10 2014 06:36 GMT
#90
That was a a sick final.
Meldon
Profile Joined May 2010
Greece128 Posts
August 10 2014 07:17 GMT
#91
Seems there are no VODs on youtube or twitch : / I' d like to watch Flash's game again.
Yashu Masha
swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
August 10 2014 07:55 GMT
#92
Classic and Zest confirmed to be 1 time protoss GSL winners along with seed and dear.
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
Teapea
Profile Joined August 2014
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 09:17:11
August 10 2014 08:42 GMT
#93
I was really truly surpriced how Action played. Granted I did give Action a slight lead to begin with, but the fake of the ling speed really threw Dark of. He even faked it again when the ling scout got in. Just really well done and prepared.

Other games were great too, notably Flash vs Parting. Flash had prepared and read Partings timing so well, that Parting had no chance if he played standard. And those 4 hero marines.. Just randomly going around in the map. Nobody knew what they were doing, but everybody were looking at them.

Also about the first game.. I think it was all about nerves. In the end though Stats have his plan locked out and Soulkey seemed to just be undecisive on what to do, which costed him the game.

In the end as many have said.. It came down to preparation, KT scouted SKT really well.
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
August 10 2014 08:46 GMT
#94
Excellent writeup for a glorious finals. Everything was perfect yesterday.
Flash | Mvp
NoSide
Profile Joined September 2012
Hong Kong7 Posts
August 10 2014 11:19 GMT
#95
vods are coming baby~!
CmdBash
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia38 Posts
August 10 2014 12:30 GMT
#96
quite amusing that terrans were the ones who won it for KT, really shows a glaring hole in SKT's lineup.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
August 10 2014 12:55 GMT
#97
Great recap
The heart's eternal vow
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8158 Posts
August 10 2014 13:14 GMT
#98
thanks for the recap
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
Yavich
Profile Joined December 2012
Kazakhstan6 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 14:00:16
August 10 2014 13:59 GMT
#99
GG guys! :D

[image loading]
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
August 10 2014 14:10 GMT
#100
Well SKT's best players won. The rest weren't good enough on the day.
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 14:16:34
August 10 2014 14:15 GMT
#101
On August 10 2014 14:08 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 13:51 elmerpogs wrote:
I've lost 2% of my 100% respect to SKT when they didn't field a terran on this finals.It also looked like they don't trust (T)FanTaSy anymore.

i hear ya, but tbh, it seems reasonable, FanTaSy isn't doing well in anything, Proleague or Individual leagues. If you were the coach of SKT, and you had a team of 7 GSL code S players plus 2 Code A players, who would YOU FIELD? 6 of 7 Code S players? or put in the Code A player who cant even get out of Code A, who would you pick, if even Code S players weren't enough to take the win for SKT, then i seriously doubt that just becuz he has experience that FanTaSy will win for SKT.
The only player that we can say is not Top notch in SKTs lineup yesterday was Dark, but even he is a Ro16 Zerg in Season 2 GSL, so much better than FanTaSy. So yeah, even with SKT's best players they couldnt win, it was never the problem of not fielding FanTaSy (he wouldnt have won anyways), it was just one game anyways, KT Rolster just prepared better.
iloveoov doesnt care about what the viewers think, if everyone in the world says FanTaSy vs Flash ACE (if it happened), but iloveoov thinks they will lose if they send out FanTaSy, he wont send him out, because FanTaSy just isn't performing well at all


This is a bit of a stupid analogy, but just because someone isn't good in individual leagues doesn't mean they're not sick good in proleague.

Look at Bisu's career BW.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
BeaTeR
Profile Joined March 2003
Kazakhstan4130 Posts
August 10 2014 14:27 GMT
#102
On August 10 2014 22:59 Yavich wrote:
GG guys! :D

[image loading]

haha well done baurym!
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 10 2014 15:43 GMT
#103
On August 10 2014 22:59 Yavich wrote:
GG guys! :D

[image loading]

Holy moly, well done!
Thats quite some money for a 1$ bet
wl4d
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
France103 Posts
August 10 2014 17:23 GMT
#104
How come the semi finals are a bo3 of bo7, and the finals only a bo7 ? I was hoping to see games tomorrow and maybe the day after until I saw TY grabbing the cup
EffOrt
laaaaaaaamee
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia95 Posts
August 10 2014 17:30 GMT
#105
arent the games also broadcasted national tv in south korea?
tfw maru promises to show me good games
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
August 10 2014 17:37 GMT
#106
KT hype
Mojito99
Profile Joined October 2013
Germany154 Posts
August 10 2014 18:17 GMT
#107
On August 11 2014 02:23 wl4d wrote:
How come the semi finals are a bo3 of bo7, and the finals only a bo7 ? I was hoping to see games tomorrow and maybe the day after until I saw TY grabbing the cup


for the same reason that champions league finals are just one game whereas the semis are 2.

klipik12
Profile Joined March 2012
United States241 Posts
August 10 2014 20:01 GMT
#108
All the KT players who won got some cool title except Action... "A KT Zerg" :/
<(^_^)> || Axiom - CoL - mYi - Prime - ROOT - EG - Acer || WCS Teamleague pls ;-;
wl4d
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
France103 Posts
August 10 2014 20:30 GMT
#109
On August 11 2014 03:17 Mojito99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 02:23 wl4d wrote:
How come the semi finals are a bo3 of bo7, and the finals only a bo7 ? I was hoping to see games tomorrow and maybe the day after until I saw TY grabbing the cup


for the same reason that champions league finals are just one game whereas the semis are 2.



And so what's the reason ? :p
EffOrt
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 10 2014 20:47 GMT
#110
On August 11 2014 05:30 wl4d wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 03:17 Mojito99 wrote:
On August 11 2014 02:23 wl4d wrote:
How come the semi finals are a bo3 of bo7, and the finals only a bo7 ? I was hoping to see games tomorrow and maybe the day after until I saw TY grabbing the cup


for the same reason that champions league finals are just one game whereas the semis are 2.



And so what's the reason ? :p

Hype and production costs
AdministratorBreak the chains
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
August 10 2014 20:54 GMT
#111
On August 10 2014 16:55 swag_bro wrote:
Classic and Zest confirmed to be 1 time protoss GSL winners along with seed and dear.


Zest won GSL GC as well and that wasn't easy.
maru G5L pls
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24226 Posts
August 10 2014 20:58 GMT
#112
The finals were amazing ! Gratz to KT ! Can't wait for another SKT1 - KT finals next year ^^
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24226 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-10 20:59:14
August 10 2014 20:59 GMT
#113

On August 10 2014 16:55 swag_bro wrote:
Classic and Zest confirmed to be 1 time protoss GSL winners along with seed and dear.


Come on, Classic is probably not the most relevant GSL winner but Zest and Dear are beasts and definitely deserve to see their names in this prestigious list.
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
August 11 2014 01:02 GMT
#114
[i]
On August 10 2014 23:15 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 14:08 MiniFotToss wrote:
On August 10 2014 13:51 elmerpogs wrote:
I've lost 2% of my 100% respect to SKT when they didn't field a terran on this finals.It also looked like they don't trust (T)FanTaSy anymore.

i hear ya, but tbh, it seems reasonable, FanTaSy isn't doing well in anything, Proleague or Individual leagues. If you were the coach of SKT, and you had a team of 7 GSL code S players plus 2 Code A players, who would YOU FIELD? 6 of 7 Code S players? or put in the Code A player who cant even get out of Code A, who would you pick, if even Code S players weren't enough to take the win for SKT, then i seriously doubt that just becuz he has experience that FanTaSy will win for SKT.
The only player that we can say is not Top notch in SKTs lineup yesterday was Dark, but even he is a Ro16 Zerg in Season 2 GSL, so much better than FanTaSy. So yeah, even with SKT's best players they couldnt win, it was never the problem of not fielding FanTaSy (he wouldnt have won anyways), it was just one game anyways, KT Rolster just prepared better.
iloveoov doesnt care about what the viewers think, if everyone in the world says FanTaSy vs Flash ACE (if it happened), but iloveoov thinks they will lose if they send out FanTaSy, he wont send him out, because FanTaSy just isn't performing well at all


This is a bit of a stupid analogy, but just because someone isn't good in individual leagues doesn't mean they're not sick good in proleague.

Look at Bisu's career BW.

dude, read carefully, i wrote: " FanTaSy isn't doing well in anything, Proleague or Individual leagues",
swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
August 11 2014 01:51 GMT
#115
On August 11 2014 05:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 16:55 swag_bro wrote:
Classic and Zest confirmed to be 1 time protoss GSL winners along with seed and dear.


Come on, Classic is probably not the most relevant GSL winner but Zest and Dear are beasts and definitely deserve to see their names in this prestigious list.


Explain the string of losses by herO, Rain, True, and Taeja from Zest. And the drop down to code B from Dear which lead to his dismissal from Mouz...
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
gneGne
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands697 Posts
August 11 2014 02:19 GMT
#116
Too bad I couldn't see it live while on vacation. Enjoyed Flash and TY's matches very much!
Chuddinater
Profile Joined July 2013
Korea (South)169 Posts
August 11 2014 02:32 GMT
#117
On August 11 2014 02:30 laaaaaaaamee wrote:
arent the games also broadcasted national tv in south korea?


Yes, all Proleague games are broadcasted on tv.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 11 2014 02:38 GMT
#118
dat special icon D:
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
August 11 2014 02:42 GMT
#119
Hoped for a game 7 but WP to KT Rolster, well played.
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
August 11 2014 03:14 GMT
#120
On August 11 2014 10:51 swag_bro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 05:59 [PkF] Wire wrote:

On August 10 2014 16:55 swag_bro wrote:
Classic and Zest confirmed to be 1 time protoss GSL winners along with seed and dear.


Come on, Classic is probably not the most relevant GSL winner but Zest and Dear are beasts and definitely deserve to see their names in this prestigious list.


Explain the string of losses by herO, Rain, True, and Taeja from Zest. And the drop down to code B from Dear which lead to his dismissal from Mouz...

Come on, has there ever been a GSL winner in the past 2 years who has been totally dominant and not lost to anyone good after they won? All of those players are fantastic players that Zest lost to.

And lets not forget Dear DEMOLISHING the WCS S3 finals after winning the GSL. Classic just dropped out right after without accomplishing anything, but Dear and Zest most definitely established themselves and gained respect.
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
August 11 2014 06:37 GMT
#121
Funny how the waiting team in the Finals suffered the same 4-2 loss to the "underdogs".WJS looked so scary at the start and in the finals of the first all SC2 proleague but got toppled down by STX Soul.SKT shines above all with their stacked rosters but fuck what happened LOL. How many months we'll have to wait for the next Proleague?
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 06:42:24
August 11 2014 06:40 GMT
#122
Pre-season was end of Dec early Jan I think?

Ugh guess I somehow missed the liquibet on this as it's saying I picked SKT. No 8 points for me
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
August 11 2014 09:21 GMT
#123
On August 11 2014 15:37 elmerpogs wrote:
Funny how the waiting team in the Finals suffered the same 4-2 loss to the "underdogs".WJS looked so scary at the start and in the finals of the first all SC2 proleague but got toppled down by STX Soul.SKT shines above all with their stacked rosters but fuck what happened LOL. How many months we'll have to wait for the next Proleague?


This season of PL started in December 2013, so if they keep that schedule i asume in about 4 months
I hope that i am wrong though, that is so much time ._.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 10:56:55
August 11 2014 10:56 GMT
#124
On August 10 2014 02:45 Ephemerality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 02:39 lichter wrote:
On August 10 2014 02:38 ZAiNs wrote:
:'( If only Classic didn't Nexus first. We could have had the most glorious ace match ever...


We need to start calling a 2rax in the deciding match of a finals "Mvp's balls" from now on.


Damn I wish Taeja could win this finals, he just needs "Mvp's balls."


There is only good players in SPL.

And they are all inside KT
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
laaaaaaaamee
Profile Joined July 2012
Australia95 Posts
August 11 2014 11:41 GMT
#125
On August 11 2014 11:32 Chuddinater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2014 02:30 laaaaaaaamee wrote:
arent the games also broadcasted national tv in south korea?


Yes, all Proleague games are broadcasted on tv.


so the viewership is well beyond that of just the online numbers right?
tfw maru promises to show me good games
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3395 Posts
August 11 2014 11:48 GMT
#126
well done KT, well done, you avenged our semifinal loss...

but now Byul is with us, see you in next season's finals!
Horang2 fan
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 11:59:14
August 11 2014 11:58 GMT
#127
Seeing this Proleague's success, I can only dream that LotV brings much much much needed changes to make Starcraft 2 a top esports game again (currently being a tier 2 IMHO). Oh how good it would be !

And yesss, was cheering for KT, but thinking "this won't happen", and they did it! Gratz!
LiquipediaWanderer
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
August 11 2014 13:18 GMT
#128
FLASH IS SO HANDSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THE NEW BISU!!
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
DomeGetta
Profile Joined February 2012
480 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 19:50:49
August 11 2014 19:28 GMT
#129
flash vs parting hype incredible!
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-11 19:40:17
August 11 2014 19:40 GMT
#130
Anyone know the viewership numbers?
offline and online (Korean and English/etc)
T P Z sagi
jyisvip
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada209 Posts
August 11 2014 22:09 GMT
#131
On August 12 2014 04:40 purakushi wrote:
Anyone know the viewership numbers?
offline and online (Korean and English/etc)


From what I know:

Offline: ~2,500
Twitch: ~30,000
Naver: ~50,000
Doyou: ~130,000
Youtube: ~2,600
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 12 2014 01:57 GMT
#132
I doubt we'll ever find out the Korean TV numbers
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Jj_82
Profile Joined December 2012
Swaziland419 Posts
August 14 2014 08:48 GMT
#133
Congratulations KTRolsters!!!
Once rode a waterslide with PartinG and TaeJa ✌
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 14 2014 12:06 GMT
#134
I never have any doubts.

Thanks again to SK TELECOM because they brought us Proleague this year !
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
August 16 2014 11:30 GMT
#135
On August 12 2014 07:09 jyisvip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2014 04:40 purakushi wrote:
Anyone know the viewership numbers?
offline and online (Korean and English/etc)


From what I know:

Offline: ~2,500
Twitch: ~30,000
Naver: ~50,000
Doyou: ~130,000
Youtube: ~2,600

The Chinese stream number is heavily inflated, the real number would be closer to 10-15k, but there are more than one Chinese stream available (The Chinese guys streamed to multiple platforms), the combined Chinese number should be around 30k if I'm correct.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
SupahSang
Profile Joined March 2013
Netherlands4 Posts
August 18 2014 06:43 GMT
#136
Holy crap TY had balls of steel....
"A bold move..."
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
August 19 2014 21:11 GMT
#137
KT 4 LYFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeee

woo!
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
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