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Aotearoa39261 Posts
TeamLiquid is looking for new StarCraft 2 writers to keep up its league coverage in 2014. We're looking for writers who can do recaps and previews for tournaments that we cover.Positions and Application ProcessStarCraft II WriterDescription: Writers are responsible for writing previews, recaps, features, and other written content for TeamLiquid's StarCraft II coverage. In the case of previews and recaps, it is crucial that they are written in a timely manner. Writers must be able to write both concisely and at length, depending on the situation. The ability to recognize and develop narratives is also a must. Tournaments with priority at present time are DreamHack, SPL, IEM, Proleague and WCS with other tournaments being covered as manpower allows. Positions are not paid and are on a strictly voluntary basis. Passes for leagues covered will be provided. How to Apply: Send an application containing the following information to plexa@teamliquid.net (Plexa) - Your TeamLiquid.net ID and Skype information. For coordination purposes, we require writers to use Skype.
- Short introduction and relevant background information as it pertains to this position. Please do not send resumes.
- Preferred league or tournament to cover.
- Availability and desired workload.
- Applications are open indefinitely.
Two test writing assignments must also be completed. - Tournament Recap (around 600 words) - Example 1 - Example 2 - Example 3
Write a concise recap on the events of a single day in a major tournament. This is NOT a battle report assignment. Try to tell an interesting story about the tournament and players as a whole, rather than listing the details of several matches. The above examples are only references, feel free to be creative with your style. Any major tournament after March 1st, 2014 may be chosen as the subject.
- Preview Article (700-1000 words) - Example 1 - Example 2 - Example 3
Write an article previewing some future tournament (as of the time of writing, good choices could be Red Bull Battle Grounds Atlanta, Dreamhack Valencia or IEM Shenzhen). The preview should not preview the entire event if there are many competitors, but should cover a main storyline leading into the tournament. A main storyline includes, but is not limited to, looking at a tournament favorite or popular player going into the event, looking at a team going into the event and any tournament specific storylines (e.g. "Royal Roaders" in GSL).
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Hey look! Protoss won! Am I hired?!?
In all seriousness, I hope you find quality guys. I greatly appreciate the write ups when I don't have the time to watch/catch up on VODs. Best of luck applicants/searchers.
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I wish I was still really actively watching SC2 all the time, I'd be jumping all over this. I hope y'all get some real quality (not me lol), I love the write ups when I can't get the time to watch SCII.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
lichter has promised to be nice
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On July 09 2014 09:28 Zealously wrote:
lichter has promised to be nice
Wait, are we trusting lichter now?
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United States23455 Posts
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United States23455 Posts
On July 09 2014 09:28 Zealously wrote:
lichter has promised to be nice
There is no way this happens
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Would attempt to join, but I don't think I can do it.
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This is not for twitch viewers for those that complained about 100-200 word essays :O:O
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I wouldn't mind editing articles for grammar/quality, but I don't think I could write an original piece 
I just don't follow the SC2 scene closely enough and barely feel dedicated enough as it is to continue to play/watch every single day. Gl to anyone who wants to apply though.
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United States97276 Posts
On July 09 2014 09:44 Wintex wrote:
Would attempt to join, but I don't think I can do it.
I believe in you
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Germany25649 Posts
On July 09 2014 09:57 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:I wouldn't mind editing articles for grammar/quality, but I don't think I could write an original piece I just don't follow the SC2 scene closely enough and barely feel dedicated enough as it is to continue to play/watch every single day. Gl to anyone who wants to apply though.
Not sure if we are currently looking for editors, but shooting a PM to Plexa can't hurt I guess? 
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 09 2014 09:28 Zealously wrote:
lichter has promised to be nice
There is no way this happens
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Bisutopia19195 Posts
I'd volunteer but Bisu forbids it.
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I'm wondering what are some of the resources you could use besides Liquipedia and Aligulac when doing research and looking for player stats? Looks like a great opportunity.
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Was searching TL earlier today for writing jobs, cool
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Estimated Salary?
Edit: sorry, I just read the end of the first paragraph.
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I'll be submitting my app tomorrow since i have homework tonight
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What's the estimated time commitment? How often do articles need to be written/specific tournaments watched?
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" Tournaments with priority at present time are DreamHack, GSTL, IEM, Proleague and WCS with other tournaments being covered as manpower allows"
the return of GSTL!?!?!?!?
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I already had my storylines and tournaments planned out for my application by the time I realized I couldn't be sure I'd have the time to commit to the gig.
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TLADT24920 Posts
might apply seeing as its a good opportunity to try and gain my passion for SCII lol. I would also like to know the time commitment if possible even though I'll likely be able to meet it
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On July 09 2014 11:19 negativedge wrote:
" Tournaments with priority at present time are DreamHack, GSTL, IEM, Proleague and WCS with other tournaments being covered as manpower allows"
the return of GSTL!?!?!?!?
I think it was just copied from the last time they were seeking writers.
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Can one of the leagues covered be the CSL? That would be what I am most interested in doing. Especially since I am in the US currently.
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On July 09 2014 10:29 Ctone23 wrote:Was searching TL earlier today for writing jobs, cool
I cannot imagine such a troll twitch-chatter writing TL pieces  <3
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 09 2014 11:13 Androxide wrote:
What's the estimated time commitment? How often do articles need to be written/specific tournaments watched?
Time commitment really depends on how quick (and how well) you write. If you write fast, then you spend less time. If you already watch most of the tournaments it's not that much bigger. Obviously we won't ask you to write for a tournament that you have no opportunity to watch.
Most writers have at least one or two articles to do each week, sometimes more or less, depending on tournament congestion.
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United States744 Posts
This is something I've considered for a while but I don't know if I'll be able to consistently offer my time plus my parents would probably get mad at me if I started slacking on other things to fulfill a commitment to TL. We'll see though.
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United States23455 Posts
On July 09 2014 11:19 negativedge wrote:
" Tournaments with priority at present time are DreamHack, GSTL, IEM, Proleague and WCS with other tournaments being covered as manpower allows"
the return of GSTL!?!?!?!?
WE'VE SAID TOO MUCH!
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your Country52797 Posts
I'm still a terrible writer.
Ask me again in a year.
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This would be awesome, it would feel so rewarding to contribute in a fun way to SC2's scene.
Just wish I had the time and the confidence in my writing skills to do it :D
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wish i had the time and talent <3 maybe someday
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GSTL?..
So thats what writers do. Just copy paste old stuff
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On July 09 2014 12:37 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:GSTL?.. So thats what writers do. Just copy paste old stuff
ouch.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 09 2014 12:37 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:GSTL?.. So thats what writers do. Just copy paste old stuff
"Good writers borrow, great writers steal" :p
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Not sure that any SC2 writers are left that would do this without pay, especially given Team Liquid having actual revenue generated from their site...
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36948 Posts
On July 09 2014 14:17 XilDarkz wrote:
Not sure that any SC2 writers are left that would do this without pay, especially given Team Liquid having actual revenue generated from their site...
I was wondering when a post like this was going to come up. Every SC2 recruitment announcement by TL always has to have one
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My workload is pretty crazy these days, but I might be able to write a couple articles a month. Should I bother applying if that's the case?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 09 2014 14:28 TheDougler wrote:
My workload is pretty crazy these days, but I might be able to write a couple articles a month. Should I bother applying if that's the case?
If you are amazing, yes
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On July 09 2014 14:17 XilDarkz wrote:
Not sure that any SC2 writers are left that would do this without pay, especially given Team Liquid having actual revenue generated from their site...
To be honest, I'm 25 years old, I do some casting for Taiwan eSports League, and I also have a day job (so about half of my income is from my dayjob). Twitch revenue some times doesn't even make it worth my time to cast something unless there is nothing to compete with on the front page of teamliquid.
Writing for free is something I will do very seldom nowadays due to my lack of spare time.
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Well I have to be one more that chimes in just so say that there's no time, between a full time job and my rabid girlfriend picking up the spoils of my time every single day... I have hard enough time being able to catch glimpses of the tournaments/matches i really want to watch. Most tournaments are either during my work time (where I often watch in background but can never count on really being able to watch) or after I've gone to bed.
Thats also why I really rely on TL writers to tell me what I've missed and whats going on, I really think you guys are amazing and the hype you can get going in anticipation of a tournament is mind boggling. I hope you find a few writers that can keep the torch going!
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4713 Posts
I might give it a shot, if only to join that super secret TL writers skype group they must have hidden away somewhere.
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On July 09 2014 15:26 Destructicon wrote:
I might give it a shot, if only to join that super secret TL writers skype group they must have hidden away somewhere.
I can confirm it does exist!
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28084 Posts
The TL Sc2 writers skype sucks. Dota 2 group way better...
ok both are fun to be in.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Writers chat is only a Level 1 Secret Skype Chat. You'll have to do more to get into secret-y-er ones.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36948 Posts
On July 09 2014 16:49 lichter wrote:
Writers chat is only a Level 1 Secret Skype Chat. You'll have to do more to get into secret-y-er ones.
lichter... That's sexual harassment...
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Austria24417 Posts
On July 09 2014 15:36 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 15:26 Destructicon wrote:
I might give it a shot, if only to join that super secret TL writers skype group they must have hidden away somewhere. I can confirm it does exist!
I recently discovered that you're in it haha
This writers job is perfect for people with masochist tendencies!
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Hm. To apply, or not to apply
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
You forgot DarkLordLolli in your sig
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On July 09 2014 17:48 lichter wrote:
You forgot DarkLordLolli in your sig
I actually don't read his name like that. Maybe you can add it, though?
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
If I were a good writer I would totally apply
+ Show Spoiler +I also always hated writing assignments in school
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On July 09 2014 14:17 XilDarkz wrote:
Not sure that any SC2 writers are left that would do this without pay, especially given Team Liquid having actual revenue generated from their site...
You shouldnt look at this as a job. There are very few demands beyond quality and knowledge once you decide to write something. TL provides a larger audience for anyone that likes writing too many words about SC, and a way to improve. You don't demand money from your other hobbies, and I think writing for TL should be seem as such. It's rewarding, fun and only stressful/demanding if you make it so.
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Is it just me or is there no deadline for this?
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On July 09 2014 18:27 Heartland wrote:
Is it just me or is there no deadline for this?
Apply whenever
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Germany25649 Posts
On July 09 2014 14:17 XilDarkz wrote:
Not sure that any SC2 writers are left that would do this without pay, especially given Team Liquid having actual revenue generated from their site...
At least we made it to page 2 before this came up :D
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Canada8157 Posts
On July 09 2014 16:49 lichter wrote:
Writers chat is only a Level 1 Secret Skype Chat. You'll have to do more to get into secret-y-er ones.
There's even more secret-y-er ones?!
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On July 09 2014 19:48 KadaverBB wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 14:17 XilDarkz wrote:
Not sure that any SC2 writers are left that would do this without pay, especially given Team Liquid having actual revenue generated from their site... At least we made it to page 2 before this came up :D
At least it isn't the same guy again!
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On July 09 2014 20:17 Jer99 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 16:49 lichter wrote:
Writers chat is only a Level 1 Secret Skype Chat. You'll have to do more to get into secret-y-er ones. There's even more secret-y-er ones?!
lichter's secret involvements go like illuminati levels of deep
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On July 09 2014 11:34 Soke wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 10:29 Ctone23 wrote:Was searching TL earlier today for writing jobs, cool I cannot imagine such a troll twitch-chatter writing TL pieces <3
How rude!
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Canada8157 Posts
On July 09 2014 20:59 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 20:17 Jer99 wrote:On July 09 2014 16:49 lichter wrote:
Writers chat is only a Level 1 Secret Skype Chat. You'll have to do more to get into secret-y-er ones. There's even more secret-y-er ones?! lichter's secret involvements go like illuminati levels of deep
Word is the Illuminati have recently become fond of hellbats
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United States219 Posts
On July 09 2014 09:28 Zealously wrote:
lichter has promised to be nice
Liar liar pants on fire. Legacy of the void will come out before that would happen.
In all honesty, it is true that everyone has homework/school/work that occupy most of his/her time. Not a lot of people are willing to volunteer their precious down time for free, I get that. But if you really think about it, TL is a community, and it's about give and take. We are all grateful for the existence of TL, for providing insightful analysis and comical relief, it's really my main SC news source. Most of the people working behind the scenes do it out of love and passion for the game, and we all feed off of that.
So to those of you who are more than capable but don't have time: If everyone is willing to contribute even just a little bit, there would be more quality content. Even as amazing as our current writers are, it's hard to keep up with all the billion events going on at the same time. Take a little, give a little, and help our lovely community grow even more. Who knows, your 1 or 2 article contribution per month might be the most important writeups of the year.
Oh, and yes, not to mention dem eSports fame and internet recognition :D
But then again you'd have to work with Lich... Hmmm.... Sometimes it's worth it- my personal coping mechanism is wine.
edit: lichter is awesome
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*cough* slave labor *cough*
:D
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
I'm glad that totally mysterious totally not my fault edit saved your post Meru
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United States219 Posts
On July 09 2014 23:01 lichter wrote:
I'm glad that totally mysterious totally not my fault edit saved your post Meru
Stop abusing your powers!
The people will revolt.
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On July 09 2014 10:01 KadaverBB wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 09:57 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:I wouldn't mind editing articles for grammar/quality, but I don't think I could write an original piece I just don't follow the SC2 scene closely enough and barely feel dedicated enough as it is to continue to play/watch every single day. Gl to anyone who wants to apply though. Not sure if we are currently looking for editors, but shooting a PM to Plexa can't hurt I guess?
Y'all should be... there's been a few articles lately that needed it.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On July 09 2014 23:13 Joedaddy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 10:01 KadaverBB wrote:On July 09 2014 09:57 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:I wouldn't mind editing articles for grammar/quality, but I don't think I could write an original piece I just don't follow the SC2 scene closely enough and barely feel dedicated enough as it is to continue to play/watch every single day. Gl to anyone who wants to apply though. Not sure if we are currently looking for editors, but shooting a PM to Plexa can't hurt I guess? Y'all should be... there's been a few articles lately that needed it.
Please point me to specific articles you feel required further editing!
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On July 09 2014 23:17 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:13 Joedaddy wrote:On July 09 2014 10:01 KadaverBB wrote:On July 09 2014 09:57 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:I wouldn't mind editing articles for grammar/quality, but I don't think I could write an original piece I just don't follow the SC2 scene closely enough and barely feel dedicated enough as it is to continue to play/watch every single day. Gl to anyone who wants to apply though. Not sure if we are currently looking for editors, but shooting a PM to Plexa can't hurt I guess? Y'all should be... there's been a few articles lately that needed it. Please point me to specific articles you feel required further editing!
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/452102-proleague-round-4-keeping-the-dream-alive
This one stood out. There are some fairly simple grammar and spelling mistakes. What I found most annoying though was the wordiness. Is there a contest to see who can write the longest sentence?
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Good to see the obligatory post on salary already appearing at the first page :')
Good luck finding people
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Northern Ireland24248 Posts
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Okay I'm gonna apply don't let Shellshock critique my writing pls
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I think I could be a writer if I were better in skill and became less biased. Neither of those will ever happen lol.
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On July 10 2014 01:24 eightym wrote:
I think I could be a writer if I were better in skill and became less biased. Neither of those will ever happen lol.
LOL I could've said that
honestly though, I tried already but got turned down, I better become better before re-trying.
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Canada13386 Posts
On July 09 2014 23:17 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 23:13 Joedaddy wrote:On July 09 2014 10:01 KadaverBB wrote:On July 09 2014 09:57 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:I wouldn't mind editing articles for grammar/quality, but I don't think I could write an original piece I just don't follow the SC2 scene closely enough and barely feel dedicated enough as it is to continue to play/watch every single day. Gl to anyone who wants to apply though. Not sure if we are currently looking for editors, but shooting a PM to Plexa can't hurt I guess? Y'all should be... there's been a few articles lately that needed it. Please point me to specific articles you feel required further editing!
My group needs an editor! My other editor took over liquidhearth ... That bum.
On July 09 2014 18:12 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 14:17 XilDarkz wrote:
Not sure that any SC2 writers are left that would do this without pay, especially given Team Liquid having actual revenue generated from their site... You shouldnt look at this as a job. There are very few demands beyond quality and knowledge once you decide to write something. TL provides a larger audience for anyone that likes writing too many words about SC, and a way to improve. You don't demand money from your other hobbies, and I think writing for TL should be seem as such. It's rewarding, fun and only stressful/demanding if you make it so.
Even when there is a lot to do, the teams are full of great people that can help pick up if you go through a time where you can't contribute as much.
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On July 09 2014 18:12 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 14:17 XilDarkz wrote:
Not sure that any SC2 writers are left that would do this without pay, especially given Team Liquid having actual revenue generated from their site... You shouldnt look at this as a job. There are very few demands beyond quality and knowledge once you decide to write something. TL provides a larger audience for anyone that likes writing too many words about SC, and a way to improve. You don't demand money from your other hobbies, and I think writing for TL should be seem as such. It's rewarding, fun and only stressful/demanding if you make it so.
I understand the thought process behind this. However, Team Liquid does generate revenue based on the number of people viewing the website, and high-quality articles increase the number of people who will view the site. Most sites that run both articles and ads follow this model. For example, when I write my articles for Ars Technica, I'm paid for my work.
I'm a good writer (if I wasn't, Ars wouldn't have been paying me for nearly a decade) and I'm also passionate about Starcraft 2 to the point of absurdity. I would love to contribute to Team Liquid as a writer. But I can't, because I don't want to devalue myself as a writer, and devalue writing in general.
I realize that maybe the numbers aren't quite there to support paying authors on Team Liquid. There is always a shortage of money in eSports. But if you paid your writers, you'd get higher quality work, and you'd get more consistency. You'd get people willing to write for you for longer, who would then build up a more loyal reader following over the years. In time, this could generate more traffic and more revenue, and maybe even more interest in eSports.
It's just a thought.
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4713 Posts
Oh man, that feeling when you're finished writing your articles for the application, you're heart swells with pride and relief as you're writing the e-mail. Finally you click send and then you realize that you forgot to do any reviews or corrections of them...
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Germany25649 Posts
On July 10 2014 03:16 Destructicon wrote:
Oh man, that feeling when you're finished writing your articles for the application, you're heart swells with pride and relief as you're writing the e-mail. Finally you click send and then you realize that you forgot to do any reviews or corrections of them...
Review it now and send it again with a short explanation? :D
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 03:16 Destructicon wrote:
Oh man, that feeling when you're finished writing your articles for the application, you're heart swells with pride and relief as you're writing the e-mail. Finally you click send and then you realize that you forgot to do any reviews or corrections of them...
Sending things to lichter without proofreading or correcting mistakes is a trait all writers share
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Austria24417 Posts
On July 10 2014 03:47 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:16 Destructicon wrote:
Oh man, that feeling when you're finished writing your articles for the application, you're heart swells with pride and relief as you're writing the e-mail. Finally you click send and then you realize that you forgot to do any reviews or corrections of them... Sending things to lichter without proofreading or correcting mistakes is a trait all writers share
And you wonder why he's angry all the time
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Will be sending my application tomorrow, but I have a general question.
Are the assignments due the same day/evening an event concludes, for editing, etc.? Alternatively, what is the timeline for a preview article? 2 days, 3 days? Just curious
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I wish I had the level of commitment to do this, but I can't even commit to helping with Liquipedia half the time.
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Someone give me a writing prompt for a preview, I haven't been tracking any of the upcoming tournaments so I don't know where to start. I know there are some suggested tournaments but that doesn't quite help me know what storylines are interesting in them. D:
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I tell myself I'm going to apply every time and then I convince myself I won't have the time. Maybe I'll actually try this time
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Too bad i'm not good enough to do this.
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I hope stating my opinion here doesn't get me banned. I assume that this is not a paid position because TL can't afford it. I'd like to assume that if they could afford it, they would pay for this position. Being a writer for a website like TL and the demands for quality set by precedent is extremely taxing and demanding.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 10 2014 03:47 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:16 Destructicon wrote:
Oh man, that feeling when you're finished writing your articles for the application, you're heart swells with pride and relief as you're writing the e-mail. Finally you click send and then you realize that you forgot to do any reviews or corrections of them... Sending things to lichter without proofreading or correcting mistakes is a trait all writers share
I should reconsider that pen of yours D:
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Great, soon LR will be all writers. Smug bastards...
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Don't worry Pandemona's "would of"s and "should of"s would never ever pass with me xD
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France9034 Posts
Mmmh, I might have a try at this. When it says "open indefinitely", as in "While we don't shut it down, applications are open" ? Or did I miss something?
As I don't have the net at home for the moment, I don't know when I'll be able to submit an application... (but that works anyway with a preview of any upcoming tournament then I suppose, right?).
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Italy12246 Posts
On July 10 2014 16:35 lichter wrote:
Don't worry Pandemona's "would of"s and "should of"s would never ever pass with me xD
You should talk to monk about editing Blade5555's articles
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United States23455 Posts
On July 10 2014 12:55 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 03:47 Darkhorse wrote:On July 10 2014 03:16 Destructicon wrote:
Oh man, that feeling when you're finished writing your articles for the application, you're heart swells with pride and relief as you're writing the e-mail. Finally you click send and then you realize that you forgot to do any reviews or corrections of them... Sending things to lichter without proofreading or correcting mistakes is a trait all writers share I should reconsider that pen of yours D:
TT
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so I am writing a preview for RedBull... I assume it's fine if I send it after the tournament too?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Yeah thats fine Heartland.
On July 10 2014 17:40 Ragnarork wrote:
Mmmh, I might have a try at this. When it says "open indefinitely", as in "While we don't shut it down, applications are open" ? Or did I miss something?
As I don't have the net at home for the moment, I don't know when I'll be able to submit an application... (but that works anyway with a preview of any upcoming tournament then I suppose, right?).
Yes, "open indefinitely" implies what you said!
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TLADT24920 Posts
I started writing the first assignment, thought I had a good idea then a quarter of the way through, realized that I misread (must be) what I needed to write about lol. Back to step one for me XD
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On July 09 2014 17:42 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 15:36 Pokebunny wrote:On July 09 2014 15:26 Destructicon wrote:
I might give it a shot, if only to join that super secret TL writers skype group they must have hidden away somewhere. I can confirm it does exist! I recently discovered that you're in it haha This writers job is perfect for people with masochist tendencies!
I'm not in it anymore :p
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Hey,
His this something that is still active? Is TL still looking for SC2 writers?
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On February 18 2015 02:40 Dassarin wrote:
Hey,
His this something that is still active? Is TL still looking for SC2 writers?
I think its a better idea to pm them considering its listed under jobs.
http://www.teamliquid.net/contactus.php
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 18 2015 02:40 Dassarin wrote:
Hey,
His this something that is still active? Is TL still looking for SC2 writers?
We're always looking for motivated writers.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
and I thought someone actually wanted to help me write about white guys
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