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JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
June 12 2014 23:12 GMT
#41
I don't. I talk about it every now and then, but I feel that's obnoxious enough in itself after awhile.
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Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
June 12 2014 23:24 GMT
#42
Since its virtually free I told my friends its like a even better Age of empires games(which they all played) then I just played team games with them and taught them how to 5 rax etc and we cleaned up. They had fun and eventually they get addicted or not
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10672 Posts
June 12 2014 23:25 GMT
#43
Start them out watching old Korean BW pro gaming videos on youtube, once they see how EPIC it is, they will get hooked, then introduce them to SC2. Or maybe BW if they enjoy it more.
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Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
June 12 2014 23:26 GMT
#44
On June 13 2014 08:25 GGzerG wrote:
Start them out watching old Korean BW pro gaming videos on youtube, once they see how EPIC it is, they will get hooked, then introduce them to SC2. Or maybe BW if they enjoy it more.


probably not, they cant comprehend whats going on. also the 1990 graphics is a big downer :D
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
June 12 2014 23:34 GMT
#45
BW is the worst possible way to introduce people who aren't some kind of retro game buff to sc. No one who is not already a Bw fan wants to see 1990s graphics in 2014.

People preferring LoL or dota over an RTS should not be surprising or grounds for qq. Mobas are much much simpler games than rts and are easy to follow and understand for purely casual fans. Try introducing sc2 to people who are more into intellectual games or into sci fi.
Tapioca Weasel
Profile Joined January 2010
81 Posts
June 12 2014 23:36 GMT
#46
My friend got me into when he showed me the first GOM TV tourneys with Tasteless and company, it was great. I've never played the game myself, I'm too much of a perfectionist and since I watch the pro scene I couldn't stand to play so poorly.
I want to see July and Reach fight. Like with fists.
Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
June 12 2014 23:38 GMT
#47
I recently introduced my friend to StarCraft - it was actually Nation Wars that got him really into it. He enjoyed watching Nation Wars with me so I showed him VODs from some of my favourite games (INnoVation vs TaeJa, Sjow vs Life, INnoVation vs SuperNova, Classic vs sOs, Bomber vs Scarlett to name a few).

I encouraged him to then watch the GSL with me and he liked that. In the end I made a rough guide to give him on how to get involved with StarCraft. Unfortunately he is a semi-pro World of Tanks player so cannot watch as much as he would like but when he can he watches quite a bit.

(The rough guide I make is here if anyone else wants to use it: http://1drv.ms/1qCIgqk)
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Crot4le
Profile Joined June 2013
England2927 Posts
June 12 2014 23:41 GMT
#48
On June 13 2014 02:58 Makro wrote:
You show them mana vs firecake


No I don't think that would be exciting enough, instead use Stephano vs Petraeus at Lone Star Clash 3.
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Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
June 12 2014 23:54 GMT
#49
Smooth jazz, candles, and a tube of KY.
Turn off the radio
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
June 13 2014 00:07 GMT
#50
On June 13 2014 06:37 Szgk wrote:
So far I've only tried one approach - Take them to a major tournament.


Tried this and failed miserably. Dragged my friend to IEM Sao Paulo this year when we went to Brazil on vacations... I have a nice picture of us, I look so happy enjoying blink stalker micro while she looks so "WTF am I doing here??". I had to buy her like 5 caipirinhas later to compensate

On a serious note, Starcraft is not for everyone. If your friends don't show interest in RTS or don't enjoy hard games in general, I don't think there is much you can do or say to get them interested :/
ProxyKite
Profile Joined July 2011
United States40 Posts
June 13 2014 00:08 GMT
#51
You introduce them to Starcraft by playing 2v2, 3v3, and 4v4s with them. I would say 1v1 is intimidating.
Arolis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States496 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 00:34:24
June 13 2014 00:33 GMT
#52
If you have friends that enjoy watching streams, let's plays and/or youtube videos of video games, the best way to introduce someone to SC2 is to simply show them an awesome game or preferably an awesome series. But keep in mind that an awesome game for a beginner might not be the same thing as for someone experienced in the game.

For example, the series that got me into watching SC:BW was JulyZerg vs. Best OSL Finals. It was a 3-0 sweep with the first two consisting of cheese. To me, I had just witnessed magic, but after watching more BW, I could see how most people who were already watching BW might not rate that series quite so highly.

High tense, fast pace, cheesy games make for good introductions to the game since there is less to keep track of in terms of builds, units, upgrades, etc. A couple macro games are ok, but not too many at first. Personally, I think a series like SoS vs. Jaedong in the 2013 Blizzcon Finals is a decent series to introduce people to the game. Though if there is a similar series in the TvZ matchup that would be even better. I can't think of one off the top of my head.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 13 2014 00:51 GMT
#53
On June 13 2014 08:34 Yakikorosu wrote:
BW is the worst possible way to introduce people who aren't some kind of retro game buff to sc. No one who is not already a Bw fan wants to see 1990s graphics in 2014.

People preferring LoL or dota over an RTS should not be surprising or grounds for qq. Mobas are much much simpler games than rts and are easy to follow and understand for purely casual fans. Try introducing sc2 to people who are more into intellectual games or into sci fi.


Speak for yourself and no they aren't lol. The team dynamic and positioning is very important as well. Some things people don't really grasp. It's not as simple as people think when you're talking competitive. You can dumb down RTS games in a similar vein when it comes to spectating but when it comes to playing LoL casually people tend to go ham at the start. When they start playing an RTS on the other hand they can get overwhelmed easy because even though you dumbed the game down for them. There's just a lot of things they have to pay attention to at the forefront right away; whereas, in LoL and other mobas that comes later when they start to play for realsies. Get the idea?

It's not as simple and straight forward as you guys tend to make it out to be. Also LoL at the graphics. There is a reason why there's a split between people who enjoy dota more than LoL and vice versa. Just like BW and SC2. If you ask me sometimes the simple things in life are easier to spectate than something that's flashy. Why you think a lot of players op for the low settings while playing other than ultra high or something else? It's not just because of latency or their pcs cannot run it while they stream, etc. Some people actually prefer it. You cannot fight over personal preference.
Beastgief
Profile Joined June 2014
United States34 Posts
June 13 2014 00:55 GMT
#54
honestly dude, you'd be better off not introducing your friends to this game. It's a waste of time. Takes too long to become a decent player, Blizzard isn't exactly the most competent company, and your friend is just going to get frustrated from all the BS that can happen in game and losing to dumb stuff.

Get him into LoL, why make him go through the stress that is this game?
Waylander
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10332 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-13 01:04:37
June 13 2014 01:04 GMT
#55
A lot of people will be much more OK with trying out a game his friend wants him to if it's free. SC2 is basically free now, so tell him to try it out :D (And explain that the only real limitations is that you only have a bit of the campaign and if you want to play multiplayer you have to play with a friend if he's the doubting kind)
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Arolis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States496 Posts
June 13 2014 01:10 GMT
#56
On June 13 2014 09:55 Beastgief wrote:
honestly dude, you'd be better off not introducing your friends to this game. It's a waste of time. Takes too long to become a decent player, Blizzard isn't exactly the most competent company, and your friend is just going to get frustrated from all the BS that can happen in game and losing to dumb stuff.

Get him into LoL, why make him go through the stress that is this game?

I mean the same thing can be said about fighting games and I love fighting games too. Different strokes for different folks, but don't knock someone for trying. I have a friend who's a brony, but he couldn't get me into MLP. I really enjoy Touhou, but I couldn't get him into that. It doesn't hurt to try.
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
June 13 2014 01:11 GMT
#57
Find someone who likes losing a lot. Seriously. The bottom of bronze is rough because there aren't enough truly new players, so you get matched against 'middling bronze' for like 100 games, losing a fair amount more than you win.

However, some people love that feeling of taking on a massive goal

That and figure out if they like macroing or microing, and encourage them to play to their preference (i.e. let them cheese a ton if they want, as long as they are enjoying and learning, or let them try to go 5 base every game)
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
June 13 2014 02:33 GMT
#58
my friend knows i'm pretty good at the game and is an avid gamer like me so I was able to convince him to play but he will only do it if I guide him so I'm going to coach him
I'll be streaming this session http://twitch.tv/flatlinesc2 this friday around 10pm cst if you are interested in watching
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19234 Posts
June 13 2014 03:22 GMT
#59
I show them this picture.

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Szgk
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland112 Posts
June 13 2014 06:12 GMT
#60
On June 13 2014 09:07 silvana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2014 06:37 Szgk wrote:
So far I've only tried one approach - Take them to a major tournament.


Tried this and failed miserably. Dragged my friend to IEM Sao Paulo this year when we went to Brazil on vacations... I have a nice picture of us, I look so happy enjoying blink stalker micro while she looks so "WTF am I doing here??". I had to buy her like 5 caipirinhas later to compensate

On a serious note, Starcraft is not for everyone. If your friends don't show interest in RTS or don't enjoy hard games in general, I don't think there is much you can do or say to get them interested :/

We attended the last 2 days of IEM WC in Katowice (bracket results). Got to the stands just as Taeja vs Life was starting. Prior to this, I gave her a little introduction during our drive there, but decided no to bore her too much. I added some commentary during the games and explained the main points about what was happening.
Then, during the final match between hero and sos after game 2, she leans in and says something along the lines "Even I could tell that those games were bullshit".

She didn't really get hooked to play the game, but then, I don't really play it either. She said watching those 4 series over 2 days was just the right amount for her. We've also seen the CS:GO finals with Virtus.pro in the finals so it was nice to cheer for the home team.

But she made me this gingerbread nexus.
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